The War on Iran (12 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

There isn't really a big difference. Lying and not airing a critical part of an interview are both used for the same purpose.

I could go over several examples, like MSNBC reporting that the tea party people were shouting nigger and spitting on black people at a rally, then the video of the event showed none of it occurred.

Media manipulation is indeed much more rampant than straight lying, but taken at face value, both are basically the same. That's why it can't be trusted.

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

But shows like 60 minutes try hard to make every interview as interesting and controversial as possible. If they show that portion than he looks less radical and crazy than most of their viewers are expecting and therefore less interesting. There is no doubt that he has been demonized by some but 60 minutes isn't a great example. I doubt that they are motivated by any real desire to discredit him, just that they figure having on some lunatic holocaust denier will draw more viewers. Our government has motive to demonize him but why would the media?

True.

There isn't really a big difference. Lying and not airing a critical part of an interview are both used for the same purpose.

I could go over several examples, like MSNBC reporting that the tea party people were shouting nigger and spitting on black people at a rally, then the video of the event showed none of it occurred.

Media manipulation is indeed much more rampant than straight lying, but taken at face value, both are basically the same. That's why it can't be trusted.

That's like saying if you plead the 5th you're lying to the people/court/jury/judge.

You just aren't saying everything.

 

[Bjerknes]

But shows like 60 minutes try hard to make every interview as interesting and controversial as possible. If they show that portion than he looks less radical and crazy than most of their viewers are expecting and therefore less interesting. There is no doubt that he has been demonized by some but 60 minutes isn't a great example. I doubt that they are motivated by any real desire to discredit him, just that they figure having on some lunatic holocaust denier will draw more viewers. Our government has motive to demonize him but why would the media?

The media sells whatever the government sells to them.

That portion of the interview was very, VERY key. I mean come on, don't be fucking naive.

 

[Bjerknes]

True.

That's like saying if you plead the 5th you're lying to the people/court/jury/judge.

You just aren't saying everything.

Okay, so why does the media perpetually claim that Ahmedinijhad hates Jews and wants to bomb Israel when he said he doesn't?

See, that's lying right there.

Either way, it's intentionally misleading the masses.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You're just better than everyone though. Elitist, blue-collar, arrogant, humble, Catholic, atheist, Muslim....

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm not Belgian and have my own waffles though.

 

[X Æ A-12]

The media sells whatever the government sells to them.

That portion of the interview was very, VERY key. I mean come on, don't be fucking naive.

Do you really think 60 minutes has any desire to spread any agenda but their own attempts at getting higher ratings? They know that their viewers don't actually want to be presented with a reasonable politician who is trying to make any valid arguments, they want to see the corrupt radical Muslim dictator that he has been portrayed as seemingly ever since his media explosion after speaking at Colombia university. They know that viewers will be way more interested in seeing the scary radical with a name they can't pronounce rather than hearing any serious political discussion. I mean what do you expect with 60 minutes?

 

[Bjerknes]

Do you really think 60 minutes has any desire to spread any agenda but their own attempts at getting higher ratings? They know that their viewers don't actually want to be presented with a reasonable politician who is trying to make any valid arguments, they want to see the corrupt radical Muslim dictator that he has been portrayed as seemingly ever since his media explosion after speaking at Colombia university. They know that viewers will be way more interested in seeing the scary radical rather than hearing any serious political discussion. I mean what do you expect with 60 minutes?

Ratings are certainly one thing, but what you fail to understand is that with Mahmoud on there they'd get the ratings anyway. 19 year-old potheads don't watch this show, well-meaning people interested in major issues do. 60 Minutes isn't supposed to be another Bill O'Reilly... they swear by their "objectivity."

Speaking of ratings, when do you think major news agencies get their biggest audience?

 

[X Æ A-12]

Ratings are certainly one thing, but what you fail to understand is that with Mahmoud on there they'd get the ratings anyway. 19 year-old potheads don't watch this show, well-meaning people interested in major issues do. 60 Minutes isn't supposed to be another Bill O'Reilly... they swear by their "objectivity."

Let me guess... you like this show so it is automatically a bastion of objective and flawless reporting? Please even 19 year old potheads can smell the bullshit here.

 

[Bjerknes]

Let me guess... you like this show so it is automatically a bastion of objective and flawless reporting? Please even 19 year old potheads can smell the bullshit here.

If I really liked this show, would I have spent all this time lambasting it?

 

[satfootball]

If I really liked this show, would I have spent all this time lambasting it?

do you know some of iranian people want to usa attack to islamic regime of iran?

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

do you know some of iranian people want to usa attack to islamic regime of iran?

That's because all religion breeds extremists, and without religion, the world would be at peace.

 

[satfootball]

That's because all religion breeds extremists, and without religion, the world would be at peace.

it is completely right.

 

[Gustav]

That's because all religion breeds extremists, and without religion, the world would be at peace.

You sound like Miss Universe.

 

[Fred]

That's because all religion breeds extremists, and without religion, the world would be at peace.

Like Communist Russia...

oh wait

 

[Osman]

Okay, that's not disinformation or lying, they just did not report the whole story.

Wtf? Did you even see this interview? I did, and it was nothing but govt propoganda.

 

[Osman]

You sound like Miss Universe.

He does indeed

 

[satfootball]

when a government kill its people very easily, it is logical when this government reach to nuclear weapon they will have more powers and then they can threat people and states out of country.

 

[king Ale]

True.

That's like saying if you plead the 5th you're lying to the people/court/jury/judge.

You just aren't saying everything.

Which can be as misleading as telling lies.

Like Communist Russia...

oh wait

Religion must be a personal matter not something ruling societies.

 

[IrishZebra]

when a government kill its people very easily, it is logical when this government reach to nuclear weapon they will have more powers and then they can threat people and states out of country.

Behold what happens when you let Religion influence Politics, a Theocracy hell bent on being big douches.