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reports about the first raid:
https://video.repubblica.it/edizion...a-fascismo-e-nazismo/339156/339754?ref=search
https://video.corriere.it/torino/pi...d-9b1ee12e8baf?refresh_ce-awe_video&counter=2
https://www.lastampa.it/torino/2019...arico-dei-militanti-di-forza-nuova-1.36776502
http://www.ansa.it/piemonte/notizie...ino_b32e4e6b-8183-49b4-b17f-b0eb67141c58.html
an other report about an other digos raid:
https://www.agi.it/cronaca/sequestro_armi_missile_aria_aria_razziere-5858754/news/2019-07-17/
even bbc reported about these raids, but skipped the ultra references, concentrating on the far right:
rai also reported that the raids aimed two juve ultra groups:
https://www.rai.it/programmi/report...ini-c34ffa86-2fe8-495f-8b97-217413c6813a.html
euronews:
https://fr.euronews.com/2019/07/15/...senal-de-guerre-chez-groupes-d-extreme-droite
a vid about the second raid:
it's not 100% clear to me which warehouse belongs to which group, so the reports tying the missile itself to drughi might be somewhat inaccurate indeed. but it's clear that digos found plenty of guns when they investigated those two juve ultra groups. as far as i remember the first reports about the initial raid, the digos representative literally says that during his press conference.
https://video.repubblica.it/edizion...a-fascismo-e-nazismo/339156/339754?ref=search
https://video.corriere.it/torino/pi...d-9b1ee12e8baf?refresh_ce-awe_video&counter=2
https://www.lastampa.it/torino/2019...arico-dei-militanti-di-forza-nuova-1.36776502
http://www.ansa.it/piemonte/notizie...ino_b32e4e6b-8183-49b4-b17f-b0eb67141c58.html
an other report about an other digos raid:
https://www.agi.it/cronaca/sequestro_armi_missile_aria_aria_razziere-5858754/news/2019-07-17/
even bbc reported about these raids, but skipped the ultra references, concentrating on the far right:
Code:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48987723https://www.rai.it/programmi/report...ini-c34ffa86-2fe8-495f-8b97-217413c6813a.html
euronews:
https://fr.euronews.com/2019/07/15/...senal-de-guerre-chez-groupes-d-extreme-droite
a vid about the second raid:
it's not 100% clear to me which warehouse belongs to which group, so the reports tying the missile itself to drughi might be somewhat inaccurate indeed. but it's clear that digos found plenty of guns when they investigated those two juve ultra groups. as far as i remember the first reports about the initial raid, the digos representative literally says that during his press conference.
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Well I see, it has been mentioned in the first articles, right after the things have been found (+/- 7th of July)
Later in the news about the persones who has been arrested and where those weapon came from, the link to ultras haven't been made (from 15th of July on). So I think it's very likely that there have been Razzias also at places some ultras are located, and they may have also weapons or some right-wing-shit there, but the missile(s) were found somewhere else.
News after 15th of July about the things were found, where they were found and who the responsables are:
http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/me...2137c-9e4b-4c17-a4e4-643cea16f85d.html#foto-1
http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...rmi-05e61422-e74e-45e4-add4-05048444c511.html (Salvini tho
)
Swiss article about the arrwsted swiss guy who bought/sold those missiles:
https://www.cdt.ch/mondo/cronaca/lo-svizzero-che-forniva-missili-ai-nazi-JY1427964
https://torino.repubblica.it/cronac...erra_a_gruppo_di_estremisti_destra-231200027/
http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/mondo...trato-era-stato-venduto-nel-1994-1728504.html
https://www.lastampa.it/torino/2019...estato-ex-candidato-di-forza-nuova-1.37025505
https://torino.corriere.it/cronaca/...ia-01697fe6-a6d9-11e9-8722-90fee69fd06f.shtml
Later in the news about the persones who has been arrested and where those weapon came from, the link to ultras haven't been made (from 15th of July on). So I think it's very likely that there have been Razzias also at places some ultras are located, and they may have also weapons or some right-wing-shit there, but the missile(s) were found somewhere else.
News after 15th of July about the things were found, where they were found and who the responsables are:
http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/me...2137c-9e4b-4c17-a4e4-643cea16f85d.html#foto-1
http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/ar...rmi-05e61422-e74e-45e4-add4-05048444c511.html (Salvini tho
)Swiss article about the arrwsted swiss guy who bought/sold those missiles:
https://www.cdt.ch/mondo/cronaca/lo-svizzero-che-forniva-missili-ai-nazi-JY1427964
https://torino.repubblica.it/cronac...erra_a_gruppo_di_estremisti_destra-231200027/
http://www.ilgiornale.it/news/mondo...trato-era-stato-venduto-nel-1994-1728504.html
https://www.lastampa.it/torino/2019...estato-ex-candidato-di-forza-nuova-1.37025505
https://torino.corriere.it/cronaca/...ia-01697fe6-a6d9-11e9-8722-90fee69fd06f.shtml
Inter ultras defend Cagliari fans | Football Italia
Inter ultras have leapt to the defence of Cagliari fans after they racially abused Romelu Lukaku, describing their monkey chants as a ‘way’ to help their team.
The shocking statement was released by ultras group L’Urlo della Nord on their Facebook page, which sought to justify the behaviour of Cagliari supporters during Sunday’s Serie A match at the Sardegna Arena.
It read: “Hi Romelu. We are writing you on behalf of Curva Nord, yes the guys who welcomed you at your arrival in Milan.
“We are really sorry you thought that what happened in Cagliari was racist.
“You have to understand that Italy is not like many other north European countries where racism is a REAL problem.
“We understand that it could have seemed racist to you, but it is not like that.
“In Italy we use some ‘ways’ only to ‘help our teams’ and to try to make our opponents nervous, not for racism but to mess them up.
“We are a multi-ethnic fans organisation and we have always welcomed players from everywhere. However, we have always used that ‘way’ with other teams’ players in the past and we probably will in the future.
“We are not racist and so are not the Cagliari fans.
“You have to understand that in all Italian stadiums people cheer for their teams but at the same time they use to cheer against the opponents not for racism but to ‘help’ their own team.
“Please consider this attitude of Italian fans as a form of respect for the fact they are afraid of you for the goals you might score against their teams and not because they hate you or they are racist.
“True racism is a completely different story and all Italian football fans know it very well.
“When you declare that racism is a problem to be fought in Italy you just help the repression against all football fans including us and you contribute to create a problem that is not really there, not in the way that is perceived in other countries.
“We are very sensitive and inclusive with all people. We guarantee you that in our organisation there are many fans of different races or fans coming from other parts of Italy that also use this way to [provoke] their opponents even when the have the same races or are coming from the same areas.
“Please help us to clarify what racism really is and that Italian fans are not racist.
“The fight to REAL racism has to begin in schools not in the stadiums, fans are just fans and they behave in different ways when inside the stadium as opposed to when they are in real life.
“I guarantee you that what they do or say to an opponent player of another race is not what they would ever say to someone they would meet in real life.
“Italian fans may not be perfect and we can understand your frustration with this expressions but they are definitely not meant to be racist.
“Once again... Welcome Romelu.”
LuL
Welcome to Italy
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Basically ultras “sorry you think monkey chants are racist but welcome to inter”
Inter ultras have leapt to the defence of Cagliari fans after they racially abused Romelu Lukaku, describing their monkey chants as a ‘way’ to help their team.
The shocking statement was released by ultras group L’Urlo della Nord on their Facebook page, which sought to justify the behaviour of Cagliari supporters during Sunday’s Serie A match at the Sardegna Arena.
It read: “Hi Romelu. We are writing you on behalf of Curva Nord, yes the guys who welcomed you at your arrival in Milan.
“We are really sorry you thought that what happened in Cagliari was racist.
“You have to understand that Italy is not like many other north European countries where racism is a REAL problem.
“We understand that it could have seemed racist to you, but it is not like that.
“In Italy we use some ‘ways’ only to ‘help our teams’ and to try to make our opponents nervous, not for racism but to mess them up.
“We are a multi-ethnic fans organisation and we have always welcomed players from everywhere. However, we have always used that ‘way’ with other teams’ players in the past and we probably will in the future.
“We are not racist and so are not the Cagliari fans.
“You have to understand that in all Italian stadiums people cheer for their teams but at the same time they use to cheer against the opponents not for racism but to ‘help’ their own team.
“Please consider this attitude of Italian fans as a form of respect for the fact they are afraid of you for the goals you might score against their teams and not because they hate you or they are racist.
“True racism is a completely different story and all Italian football fans know it very well.
“When you declare that racism is a problem to be fought in Italy you just help the repression against all football fans including us and you contribute to create a problem that is not really there, not in the way that is perceived in other countries.
“We are very sensitive and inclusive with all people. We guarantee you that in our organisation there are many fans of different races or fans coming from other parts of Italy that also use this way to [provoke] their opponents even when the have the same races or are coming from the same areas.
“Please help us to clarify what racism really is and that Italian fans are not racist.
“The fight to REAL racism has to begin in schools not in the stadiums, fans are just fans and they behave in different ways when inside the stadium as opposed to when they are in real life.
“I guarantee you that what they do or say to an opponent player of another race is not what they would ever say to someone they would meet in real life.
“Italian fans may not be perfect and we can understand your frustration with this expressions but they are definitely not meant to be racist.
“Once again... Welcome Romelu.”
LuL
Welcome to Italy
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Basically ultras “sorry you think monkey chants are racist but welcome to inter”
