The Trouble With…Chelsea (1 Viewer)

[Nicole]

the fact is that we've had our 'blip' and our injury problems, just wait, Chelsea havent had that, and this is the hardest time of the season, everyone says how great Chelsea's defense is, and our bad Man Utd's is, I can tell you one thing, and injury to John Terry would destory Chelsea's defense!

 

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[Febrina]

I'm not ManU fan but I've seen their matches lately. ManU defending is gr8, especially with Gabri Heinz coming. Plus, Keano is still the best defensive midfielder that Sir Alex has, he's such a hard working player eventho he ain't young anymore.

 

[juvelover]

let's hope u r true

 

[Chxta]

I still think Chelsea have successfully 'bought' the title. Meantime, u heard they're preparing to bring Tevez on board?

 

[Nicole]

Nope, but it doesnt matter, Tevez is fantastic but I doubt it, an Argentine in England? Most dont suceed, I dont know about Tevez, I havent seen him that much, so dont know if he'll be a success.

Chelsea, havent if they lose to Barca that will certainly be a knock-on effect for there season, plus they still have to play Arsenal and Man Utd.

 

[Fred]

++ [ originally posted by chxta ] ++
I still think Chelsea have successfully 'bought' the title. Meantime, u heard they're preparing to bring Tevez on board?

for gods sake enough of the crap,have they been bribing the referees or something.
buying players to win championships is not "buying the tournament".you can do better than that.

 

[Chxta]

The trouble with Chelsea was an article in a magazine, and it has brought replies. I'll post all of 'em...


Liverpool fans hate us because of the glory we snatched from them. Man Utd fans will always hate the Gunners. Why? They got some of our trophies. Arsenal fans will soon hate Chelski because they will start snatching trophies away from them. Enough said.
Vincent William, Seattle, USA

 

[Chxta]

Dear me, what a bitter Scouser we have here. I am a Man United fan and first off would like to say the only thing I don’t like about Chelsea and the Russian (it’s easier than spelling his name) is the fact the money he is spending hasn’t been generated through the football club and its fans. I have the same feeling about [Real] Madrid and the money provided to them from outside sources. Saying that though, you still have to buy the right players and mould them into a football team, something Houllier and the present manager at Liverpool have failed to do. This is where the poor little Scouser’s frustration lies, he has seen Ferguson do this year after year at the theatre of dreams (I suppose theatre of nightmares is correct if you support Liverpool), blending top quality imports with home grown players. Now at Chelsea you have Mourinho, who I admire, he is building a strong team with foreign and English players. Seye Darnell Olufunwa admires Arsenal, a team that for the first time had a 16-man squad with no Englishmen in it, what a disgrace! Wenger fills his team with French sulkers and Spanish cry-babies, and when the going gets tough resorts to throwing insults and food around at the most successful manager the English game has ever seen, Sir Alex Ferguson. I know it is hard to take for all the Scousers, but your glory days have gone and will never return, today’s game is run by money and Liverpool will never have it to attract top class players, and their youth system is poor. Stop being so bitter and twisted Seye, and accept over the last five years you witnessed the greatest ever footballing achievement, the treble, the REAL treble, that is: Championship, Euro Champs Cup, FA Cup, something every Chelsea fan is dreaming of. But I am glad to say it will ultimately remain just that - a dream.
Tom Matthews (Mancunian)

 

[Chxta]

Though agreeing with most of the feeling expressed, Chelsea as leaders of the league deserve to be there just as much as any other team; they have won the points so they are on top. Jose Mouriniho is very arrogant with every reason to be - he has proven that he is one of the greatest managers around today, Understanding the etiquette of being a football manager is one thing, but being passionate about what you do is another. You have every right to celebrate your team’s victories; in any case, you helped achieve this. But to end this, every fan has a little bit of hate for the team they are playing, the team they lost to or the team above them in the table. A win is always deserved, so is a title.
Howard

 

[Chxta]

++ [ originally posted by fred weasley ] ++
for gods sake enough of the crap,have they been bribing the referees or something.
buying players to win championships is not "buying the tournament".you can do better than that.

Of course I can do better than that. Which is why if you had taken time to notice in the first place, I put the bought in quotation marks. :fool:

 

[Chxta]

I generally agree with the sentiments expressed by the author on the topics concerning Chelsea, Mourinho. However I would like to see the author justify his claim about ‘diving’ Van Nistelroy with some supportive evidence. I resent the diving slur being attached to van Nistelrooy who is a model professional and nice person away from football. I have no problems with Ronaldo being branded a diver but Ruud is an honest player. Also, the reason Van Nistelrooy celebrated his penalty was as it meant a lot to him after being bullied by the Highbury mob in the same fixture last year.
Helal Ahmed

 

[Chxta]

I am not a Chelski fan nor a Liverpool fan, but a Spurs supporter. However, I do find some of Seye’s comments groundless, juvenile and tainted with a hint of jealousy. To begin with, his hatred of Man U is pure jealousy borne out of a frustration of Liverpool to match previous generations. He speaks with enthusiasm about Chelsea tapping up Cole, yet is he suffering from amnesia _ does he not remember Liverpool being fined for doing something similar to Ziege? Secondly, he has a go at Mourinho for celebrating at Old Trafford – well, I am sorry if some people are more passionate about their football, his team had just gone through to the semi-finals. Who wouldn’t celebrate! I’d rather listen to Mourinho any day of the week than the nonsense Benitez comes out with, who I find as dry as a cracker. Seye is better keeping his comments to himself and should be more concerned about his own team. I can’t only but think how he must be feeling at being the second best team in Merseyside and watching rather boring football. Leave Chelsea alone, they have made the league more enjoyable and provide a challenge to the duopoly we have witnessed in the
league, unlike Liverpool. I suggest you put your efforts into your own team!
Bolu Akinwande

 

[Chxta]

It was interesting to read Seye’s article on Chelsea and of interest was his position on Man U. Well I happen to be a Man U supporter and all I can say, his remarks demonstrate the rivalry that exists between the two clubs and it is understandable that Liverpool fans and supporters tend to bend towards Arsenal when the tides are low at Anfield which is exactly what is happening now. Seye’s position is, in my humble view, not accidental. In an ideal situation, in football you should always salute those who are getting it right. "Tables do not lie" - thus take away nothing from Benitez whom I have always admired from his days at Valencia, Chelsea are flying and Man U are in Championship form while Liverpool is in a state of inconsistency of the highest order, typical of a new coach in a new country with a new team. The only difference that many have not either mentioned or noticed is, if Jose had joined Real Madrid, and achieved the same level of performance, very little would have been mentioned or said of his achievement. Jose becomes a hit because he joined Chelsea who have never won the league for 50 years!!!!!! And to be fair, what has Jose brought? He builds his team on the same John Terry, Lampard, Gallas and the likes which should tell you any sane mind should give credit to Ranieri, and these people finished second last season, and Jose has won nothing in English football up to this moment. That Jose is arrogant, that is not for discussion, just as Abromo is printing money, face it hating Ruud and the Nevilles won’t improve matters at Anfiled.
Richard Andrew Sinamtwa, Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania

 

[Chxta]

Signor Jose Mourinho is definitely a genius. He has a CV that is envied by the whole of Europe. By 40 he led a team to a fabulous 3-0 victory winning the UEFA Champions League for the under-rated Porto. Porto I believe were destined to win the trophy. They had the right kind of players and a coach who had an element of mastery in him. Today Porto, that hardly have half of what Man U are worth, have won the UEFA Champs and went on to assert themselves at the Intercontinental Champs, beating Once Caldas. He must continue to deprive the destructive English media and assert his confidence which unfortunately is misread as being arrogant. Mr Mourinho, your arrogance is what the EPL needs. Mourinho’s job is not finished. After Chelsea he’ll definitely cross back to La Liga or even move on to Serie A. Mourinho has made many so scared of him and his Chelsea. Europe has got 2 great inspiring young coaches who have awakened a spirit of brutal elegance in Rijkaard and Mourinho. To me, that is the celebration the world of football should embrace and support.
Thambela, South Africa

 

[Chxta]

Well well well...the chickens coming home to roost. It’s been a long wait for the world to see once and for all that Gullit’s legacy of "sexy football" was based on a desire to be successful. What stood between Gullit’s dream and eventual reality was always MONEY to come out toe to toe against Milan and Real Madrid. Maybe even Barcelona, Juve and Inter. What Gullit introduced at Chelsea 9 years ago was often scoffed at as a pipe dream. Chelsea became the laughing stock of the world of English football. Perhaps the rest of Europe as well found Chelsea unreliable a bet to follow through on what everybody enjoyed during build-up in the middle of the season only for disappointment to set in due to lack of depth. And depth is what enabled the great dynasties of San Siro, Delle Alpi, Santiago Bernabeu and Camp Nou to steal the show on the world stage. The approach at Chelsea as introduced by Ruud Gullit was based on a formula very similar to what was at Serie A or La Liga. That is beautiful and ruthless football based on elegance and intelligence. The ball must be kept on the floor at all times. That was Gullit’s dream. Who can go against the legend’s dream as he had experienced it himself in the great Milan squad which partnered him with that fabulous Van Basten and Rijkaard. The chickens have come home to roost...Chelsea, my favourite club in the EPL, has now risen from the ashes and everyone is scared. Unlike in the recent past when only Zola was the steadfast magician who had to carry the burden of the entire team, Ranieri started a revolution once and for all and left Stamford Bridge with Chelsea at 2nd spot. For many years ManU and Arsenal had the money but failed to use it intelligently i.e. buying the right kind of players who ooze the elegance of Brasilian and Argentine type of football. Hence these 2 have failed to convincingly to impress at UEFA Champs/Cup level. Today Chelsea has been host to fantastic artists like Veron, Crespo, Mutu and Hasselbaink. They may not be there today but the writing has always been on the wall since Gullit’s departure that it was a matter of time. Abramovich proved that he had vision and despite what critics may say, as the owner of Chelsea he has displayed a taste for flamboyant and effective football (Remember Brasil, Boca Juniors, Milan and Real Madrid) and, made use of extra change to transform Chelsea into a force capable to have Real Madrid and Milan retract back into their holes. Where are the Prophets of Doom today? Chelsea have marched on from 2nd spot last season to a 9 point lead at the top of the food chain! I never doubted for once since Roman’s arrival that good times are coming to Stamford Bridge and it’s a shame that Arsenal and ManU are envious of my Chelsea. Today even the English selectors of the national team are wondering whether they should select 4 Chelsea players into the First Team. I ask, why not? Lampard has come of age and Terry has proved his worth to take up the captaincy from Becks. Who ever thought that the world will come to see Lampard doing a jig or two? Lampard’s no longer this uninspiring and boring defensive player. His game is all-round. He has become a complete player. And it is for England to wake up to this fact. Who wouldn’t be scared of a side fielding Drogba, Robben, Cole, Duff, Lampard, Terry and the stabiliser, the great Claude Makelele? And the cherry on top is the genius Jose Mourinho who has disappointed the English media and commentators by neutralising them with his cool and calculating attitude. Well done, Mr Mourinho. Europe is today afraid of you and Chelsea. Forza Chelsea. May the gods look after the health of Drogba, Lampard, Makelele and Robben. The EPL has now matured to have a decisive opponent against the might of La Liga and Serie A. I am looking forward to the encounter of beautiful football whenever Chelsea has to meet any side from Italy or Spain. Arsenal has always disappointed and I would suggest that Henry pack his bags next season and head South, back to Serie A or have chance in La Liga. How else does he expect to win the UEFA with Arsenal? Makelele is en route to a 3rd UEFA Champs victory. Once and for all Chelsea has done justice to what beautiful and intelligent football should be in the EPL. Viva signor Mourinho. Vive Les Bleus! Let the good time roll! Money after all, when used wisely can buy happiness and love. Something for Florentino Perez to learn from. Long live Roman Abramovich!
Boikanyo Ntuane

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Dude, Carpal Tunnel set in yet?

 

[Chxta]

Well, I have to say that Chelsea are not the only club to spend lots of money on players , most if not all clubs have millions to spend. As a Tottenham fan , I am not used to having high cost players on my team, but we are still winning. There is of course slight jealousy towards the high spending Chelsea, and living in South London I have to have respect for them and like them because everyone around me supports them. However, supporting Chelsea is not my cup of tea, but I don’t hate them. I don’t hate Man U but they do make my stomach churn somewhat. All in all, I would say all teams are liked in the Premiership except Manu and Norwich (I hate them much more than Man U even. Only Man U fans like Man U, but any fan can like and admire Chelsea. The main reason people get butterflies about them is Chelsea is a very posh area and their shirts are very blue. But who can’t love Mourinho and
Abramovich?
Eddie the Mosquito, London

 

[Chxta]

Overall, I agree with what was said. Especially the point about respect. However, I do not envy their money. How can Chelsea fans even enjoy titles, which if won will essentially be bought? They’re becoming the Real Madrid of England: ARROGANT AND SHAMELESS. To hear rumors linking them with the likes of Adriano and Ronaldinho, makes me want to vomit. The Ashley Cole affair was quite disturbing as well. I can’t see them losing the league, but I hope they’ll get knocked out of all other competitions; especially the FA Cup, since I’m a Newcastle fan. Chelsea are worse than Man U, but I hate them both.
Jared Edgin, USA

 

[Chxta]

As a Liverpool fan, I must say a lot of what my mate Seye said was very true. The way that Chelsea is doing things right now is so different from what the likes of Shankly did to Liverpool, or what (with all hateness to myself to mention this example) Ferguson did to Man U. They went through the stages of an evolution to reach the highest stages of football. What Shankly did for Liverpool was make them not just 18 times League winners (record), 6 FA Cup champs, 7 FA League Cup champs (record), 4 European titles and 3 UEFA Cups, not to mention other symbolic titles the team have won since this man took over the team in 1959. What makes us, the Liverpool fans, angry is that, some "Russian investor" has showed up out of nowhere and wanted to build a title-winning team within a west London club like Chelsea that won the title only once, exactly 50 years ago. For me, I was an admirer of Chelsea, they had some good players like Gianfranco Zola and Didier Deschamps whom I really respected, as the team (back then) showed the evolution type of performace. But in one sudden, this team have brought in tons of football stars into the club, with unlimited funds and no borders what so ever, just to bring the title !!!...
Okay, he’s (Abramovich) may be a Chelsea fan (which I completely doubt), or may be he’s into Blue teams (which is also another matter of doubt) but how come you want to build a history without the evolution?!! ... In Liverpool, fans grew up loving what they saw already from the likes of Kennedy, Hansen, Dalglish, Souness, and even the ancient players like Bob Paisley himself and Billy Liddle. But in Chelsea, what was so important about the team if they never even came across that huge step which we call in general (REAL FOOTBALL)... it’s when you enjoy watching every single moment of it. The whole squad will be buzzing, and the players will be on their toes ready to give their performances that will make them not only great, but legends to their fans, and their club’s fans. I for one have respected - and still respect - what a player can do once he works as hard as he can to give his team that extra momentum to reach the stage of Real Football, that player deserves more and more applause than - sometimes - the manager for making things come into reality. But in Chelsea all what I saw in the last two summers, that a team that hardly had greater run than 3rd in the Premier League are buying every single player the critics believe is a professional star. Millions of pounds thrown out to players who in some cases don’t deserve even half the money paid for them. I’m not denying the fact that they are great talented stars, but they never came across the evolution part, which is something that will make things come back to earth once it’s over. Anyways, "What comes fast, GOES fast" ... their glory is coming up sooner or later, they’ve paid a lot of money that I don’t think will last forever. It’s only a matter of business to Abramovich, just doing "business". Once it’s all done, things may come back to normal, or even worse... One simple look at the League Championship and you’ll see another "White" : victims to something that was far less than what’s going
on now. I just hope that whatever is happening is only helping the cause of REAL FOOTBALL, something we as fans are hardly seeing, thanks to the endless zeros after the ONE the likes of Chelsea has. I’m not being against anyone, but the ones who are against the true football we wish to have every weekend.
Bassam Mohammed Ali

 

[Chxta]

++ [ originally posted by Bürke ] ++
Dude, Carpal Tunnel set in yet?

There're like 8 more replies, but I am tired. I stop here.