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Juliano13

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May 6, 2012
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I agree - there’s no question Italy holds us back right now but serie a is also the whole reason for our existence and over the years it helped us. When serie a was booming in the 90s so were we.

But you cannot turn your back on the history. I’m not against the concept of a competition that pays higher rewards and contains the top clubs. But it absolutely cannot be an exclusive competition - in fact that’s not even a competition it’s WWE, it’s a procession.

If we finish 5th this season and Arsenal finish 9th this competition is a renamed Europa league. It’s no teams god given entitlement. In football you have to earn your right to compete at the highest level.

The main fucking problem with this club at the moment is that we have a sense of entitlement from the management right through to the appalling footballers. Dybala thinks he’s worth 15m, Pirlo talks about how our players don’t give enough effort or focus to the smaller opponents, Rabiot and Bentancur think they can cruise in 1st gear and feel entitled.

So much anger on this forum is directed at the lack of determination, focus and effort our players and management put in and how they don’t represent the ‘Fino Alla Fine’ motto of this club and then those same members come out in support of a league where our team will literally be able to finish last and still compete next season with no consequences. What kind of fucked up message are we communicating here.

This concept is a disgrace and this club is quickly turning into everything that is wrong in football. Americanisation of sport at its finest
You are totally right but unfortuantely, this is probably inevitable.
 

tosh_rose

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Aug 21, 2010
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I`ll share this from the man city site, this is waaay more detailed information, most of it makes sense tbh:

CLUB STATEMENT REGARDING SUPER LEAGUE COMPETITION

Manchester City is one of twelve European football clubs which have come together to announce today that they have established a new mid-week competition, the Super League, governed by its Founding Clubs. AC Milan, Arsenal FC, Atlético de Madrid, Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid CF and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.

Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole. The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.


The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid. In recent months, extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.

Competition Format
- 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.

- Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.

- An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.

As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.
The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues. These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.

Florentino Pérez, President Real Madrid CF and the first Chairman of the Super League said:
“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”

Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, Chairman of Juventus and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”

Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:
“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”

The Club’s inclusion in the Super League will be an immediate focus for its ongoing engagement with fans and other important stakeholders.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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UEFA to take action against ‘cynical’ Super League
By Football Italia staff


UEFA will consider 'all measures available' against the creation of a Super League: a ‘cynical project’ based ‘on the self-interest of a few clubs.’
The New York Times broke the news of an agreement reached by a few top European clubs, including Juventus, Inter and Milan, regarding creating a Super League.
The Lega Serie A held an emergency one-hour meeting this morning to discuss the matter.
“UEFA, the English Football Association and the Premier League, the Royal Spanish Football Federation (RFEF) and LaLiga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) and Lega Serie A have learned that a few English, Spanish and Italian clubs may be planning to announce their creation of a closed, so-called Super League,” UEFA’S official announcement reads.
“If this were to happen, we wish to reiterate that we – UEFA, the English FA, RFEF, FIGC, the Premier League, LaLiga, Lega Serie A, but also FIFA and all our member associations - will remain united in our efforts to stop this cynical project, a project that is founded on the self-interest of a few clubs at a time when society needs solidarity more than ever.
“We will consider all measures available to us, at all levels, both judicial and sporting in order to prevent this happening. Football is based on open competitions and sporting merit; it cannot be any other way.
“As previously announced by FIFA and the six Federations, the clubs concerned will be banned from playing in any other competition at domestic, European or world level, and their players could be denied the opportunity to represent their national teams.
“We thank those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up to this. We call on all lovers of football, supporters and politicians, to join us in fighting against such a project if it were to be announced. This persistent self-interest of a few has been going on for too long. Enough is enough.”

Cynical Super League :rofl:

The bolded part at the end - UEFA the Good Samaritan :rofl: :howler:

The hypocrisy, the irony!
 
May 26, 2016
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Just a question: how would the teams not included in the founding of the Super League possibly enter the Super League at a later time? is there some sort of qualification system or is it a straight up hierarchy ?
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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This is exciting and all but no way the clubs can carry this load of games.

The winner of this new competition will in the end playing 23-24 more games in a season. With super-league, league, cup and CL (plus national teams) that is close to 100 games for some players a season. They are not robots.
I think the SuperLeague is replacing CL and effectively rendering it the new EL.

The group stage of ESL grows from 6 games in CL to 18 games in ESL, but the knockouts will actually have one round (2 games) less, so basically it's 10 additional games per season. Not that challenging, Covid already demonstrated that it's possible to pack a lot of games in a short period of time and the clubs found a way to cope with it. It'll take time to adjust, but nothing impossible there.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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This seems way too big to end up with some kind of agreement to change the CL instead of forming the SL. I think the clubs are 100% certain to go with it.
There is no turning back from this.
UEFA and FIFA knows it too.
FIFA already nuanced they're ban declaration calling for calm and negotiations to begin instead of fighting the process altogether.
 
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