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jaansu

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bianconero said:
Javier Irureta. The best man for the job. He would build a team that played with verve, spirit and attacking principles.
He is also available.
Capello, lets face it, can't cut muster in europe.
Where is this guy at the moment, I have never heard of him, but from what you say he sounds great.

As for the coaches mentioned before

Mourinho: overated.
Dechamps: would be great.
Prandelli: I like his teams alot
Eriksson: No
Hiddink: Would be good but does he want to do club footie again
Spaletti: Good but there are better options.
Ferrara: Could do with a bit more experience.
Vialli: He may be our answer.
 

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Stephan

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please not vialli. everybody talks about deschamps and spalletti not have enough expierence, but really vialli is overrated when it comes to coaching.
 

Stephan

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i just dont see vialli can be with juve for years, he seems like a coach who might have a good start but when things are changing(new players old retire/like its gona happen with many juve players) he cant be trusted. that is just what happened with him in his last season with chelsea and when he went to watford where he made some expesive changes but finished 14th and then he got sacked.
 

JCK

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Stephan said:
please not vialli. everybody talks about deschamps and spalletti not have enough expierence, but really vialli is overrated when it comes to coaching.
Talk about Vialli's experience in coaching please.
 

PhRoZeN

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Vialli is a yes and no to me, I would rather look at alternatives before coming to him, yes he managed chelsea but he took over a foundation that was set down by gullit. He has a season at watford but was awful there.. and got sacked for leading his team to 14th place. I dont really know who he manages now or has managed ever since but he needs another succesful season at a club before I would give the thumbs up for him.
 

Stephan

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Jeeks said:
Talk about Vialli's experience in coaching please.
why?

well if someone is interested then this is from wikipedia:

1998: Appointed Chelsea player-manager after Gullit is sacked. Leads team to Cup Winners' Cup and League Cup success. Chelsea finish 4th in the Premiership.

1999: Chelsea finish 3rd in the Premier league having topped the table at Christmas and been challenging for most of the season. Qualify for the Champions League. Knocked out of the Cup Winners' Cup in the semi-finals. Scores 10 goals in 20 games. Plays (and scores) in his final game for the club in a 2-1 win against Derby County.

2000: Under Vialli, Chelsea reach the Champions League quarter-finals and win the FA Cup but finish a disappointing 5th in the Premiership. Win Charity Shield against Manchester United at the start of the following season. Sacked after the team win just 1 of their opening 5 league games.

2001: Takes a Uefa coaching course. Appointed manager of First Division Watford. Sacked the following June after the club finish 14th despite heavy investment in players and staff.
 

JCK

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Stephan said:
why?

well if someone is interested then this is from wikipedia:

1998: Appointed Chelsea player-manager after Gullit is sacked. Leads team to Cup Winners' Cup and League Cup success. Chelsea finish 4th in the Premiership.

1999: Chelsea finish 3rd in the Premier league having topped the table at Christmas and been challenging for most of the season. Qualify for the Champions League. Knocked out of the Cup Winners' Cup in the semi-finals. Scores 10 goals in 20 games. Plays (and scores) in his final game for the club in a 2-1 win against Derby County.

2000: Under Vialli, Chelsea reach the Champions League quarter-finals and win the FA Cup but finish a disappointing 5th in the Premiership. Win Charity Shield against Manchester United at the start of the following season. Sacked after the team win just 1 of their opening 5 league games.

2001: Takes a Uefa coaching course. Appointed manager of First Division Watford. Sacked the following June after the club finish 14th despite heavy investment in players and staff.
This is amazing for a coach as his first experience, I see this as a great job.
 

Stephan

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PhRoZeN said:
Vialli is a yes and no to me, I would rather look at alternatives before coming to him, yes he managed chelsea but he took over a foundation that was set down by gullit. He has a season at watford but was awful there.. and got sacked for leading his team to 14th place. I dont really know who he manages now or has managed ever since but he needs another succesful season at a club before I would give the thumbs up for him.
he is not coaching, his a football commentator now.
 

PhRoZeN

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Stephan said:
he is not coaching, his a football commentator now.
:lol: its a good thing its not for channel5 (for those who are familiar with it). I dont regard commentating as experience. Therefore he shouldnt be considered, but at the same time part of me says he should simply because its not like lippi had much experience before he came to Juve.
 

jaansu

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Stephan said:
why?

well if someone is interested then this is from wikipedia:

1998: Appointed Chelsea player-manager after Gullit is sacked. Leads team to Cup Winners' Cup and League Cup success. Chelsea finish 4th in the Premiership.

1999: Chelsea finish 3rd in the Premier league having topped the table at Christmas and been challenging for most of the season. Qualify for the Champions League. Knocked out of the Cup Winners' Cup in the semi-finals. Scores 10 goals in 20 games. Plays (and scores) in his final game for the club in a 2-1 win against Derby County.

2000: Under Vialli, Chelsea reach the Champions League quarter-finals and win the FA Cup but finish a disappointing 5th in the Premiership. Win Charity Shield against Manchester United at the start of the following season. Sacked after the team win just 1 of their opening 5 league games.

2001: Takes a Uefa coaching course. Appointed manager of First Division Watford. Sacked the following June after the club finish 14th despite heavy investment in players and staff.
I would say that's a fairly good record for someone starting out in the coaching business. So what if he has been commentating for the past couple of years, I still think he would be good for Juve.

We need someone who is young and enthusiastic and will try new formations or systems of play. I reckon he's the best man to lead Juve into the future.
 

PhRoZeN

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jaansu said:
I would say that's a fairly good record for someone starting out in the coaching business.
His been in the coaching business for 8 years. Either way I aint totally against him not coming to Juve but I would certainly assess other candidates ahead of him.
 

Stephan

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jaansu said:
I would say that's a fairly good record for someone starting out in the coaching business. So what if he has been commentating for the past couple of years, I still think he would be good for Juve.

We need someone who is young and enthusiastic and will try new formations or systems of play. I reckon he's the best man to lead Juve into the future.
well opinions are differant, i just dont like him much. i mean cap has also a good record but many fans as myself dont like his methods and tactics. and i dont like viallis tactics either. its just my opinion though.
 
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    Ok. So it's official. We not only lack imagination, we lack heart too. Of course, if it were'nt for our adopted hero, the real Don Fabio (Canna), my first statement would've held greater justification, but nonetheless - the fact that we're now just 5 points ahead, clearly speaks of distress in the dressing room. But, it's useless repeating the same things over and over. So with absolutely no reference to our coach, I'll just throw you guys one question. Is the scudetto beginning to slip away according to to you?

    My answer:
    As much as I hate to say it, I think this is the twist in the tale. Juventus is going to lose the title to Milan. In fact, I'm thinking they could overhaul us before the final matchday.

    And yes, as things stand, I'd be more surprised if we were to win it now, than lose it.



    PS: It's not an angry reaction to the game, or our style of play. Clearly, 4 draws and 1 defeat with just 3 goals in that time is the sign of lost confidence. Something that's causing us to undo ourselves. And there isn't any possible solution in sight given our predictability and gameplay. It seems like a precedent for the games to come. So even if we did hypothetically sack Captain Courageous at this point, it wouldnt be enough to turn things around on this home stretch I'm afraid. Let's hope this theory, if I can call it that, is wrong.
     

    JCK

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    Some threads have been merged, let us not create a new thread each time someone has an idea or thought about Capello
     
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    baggio

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    Dude I got confused. Thought I'd posted it here, didnt realise it was merged. Although I think it made more sense as a standalone because it's more a prediction kinda thread. Doesnt blend with this topic.



    PS: Anyway, its gone now, lost what I wrote. :down:
     

    JCK

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    baggio said:
    Dude I got confused. Thought I'd posted it here, didnt realise it was merged. Although I think it made more sense as a standalone because it's more a prediction kinda thread. Doesnt blend with this topic.



    PS: Anyway, its gone now, lost what I wrote. :down:
    I can restore it, but it falls under the same category of criticizing the coach even though with a different point of view. Shall I revive it?
     
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    jaansu said:
    Where is this guy at the moment, I have never heard of him, but from what you say he sounds great.

    Javier Irureta was the coach of the wonderful Deportivo La Coruna side, but a few years ago, that lit up spanish and european football.
    He is wanted by Benfica and I have lttle doubt many others who enjoy creative attacking football.
     
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