The Official Italy WC Thread (16 Viewers)

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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Regarding the midfield, I don't have any problems with it since most of the players r used to playing games in the big occasion. With a squad that boasts the likes of Gattuso, Pirlo, Camoranesi, De Rossi, Perrotta and Barone, there isn't really anything to be fearful of since all 6 have played in European competitions.

Basically this Italy squad has all the compartments complete, and with Lippi as the coach, I'm sure Italy will go very far in the SC campaign, barring any injuries to crucial members. Competition is surely present as Italy has so many good players vying for positions.

Lippi does not have replacemants for Pirlo and Totti, but what he can do is to rotate the team around to a new system, as he always does. If Pirlo is off-form, he can play Perrotta as a 2-way midfielder. Spalletti has given Perrotta a new role, which is y he is constantly performing for Roma and eventually receive a call-up. For Totti, well Lippi has got on with the DP - Toni - Gilardino trident which is demonstrated against Germany

But 1 mistake he has committed is the absence of Panucci, he can defend better than Oddo and Zaccardo to be precise, and he should get the nod by right since his performances for Roma has been good this season. Oddo can only make up some of it, but when it comes to defending, Panucci is better. Zaccardo still gives me the creeps. Regards to Lucarelli, I don't exactly know what is Lippi's reason, but I will still respect it, given that both would not get much playing time if they r played.

For the midfield role, I would go for Camoranesi - Pirlo - Gattuso. Pirlo is the catalyst of the Italy attack. But if he is off-form, this is where Perrotta comes in. Perrotta can help in the defence and start in the attack to
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
I want to see this attack

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------------------Toni------
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----Del Piero---------------
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-------------Totti-----------

Have we ever seen what Totti and Del Piero could do if they played together, Im sure Lippi will use this for the qualifying stages
 
May 17, 2006
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I must say I'm a little bit scared, because all those things going on at Juventus now, maybe referees won't like us that much just in like Japan and Korea.
But there could also be a goog thing, maybe the team will answer on the field, they'll be extra motivated.

If I was Lippi I would nog have selected the following players:
Barone, Materazzi, Zaccardo, Totti, Iaquinta

Iaquinta, I believe in him, but I think that people like Locarelli are better than him.
Materazzi: if we really want to get a penalty against us just put him on the field.
Barone: I don't see him giving something extra to the team.
Zaccardo: Blasi can also play on the right-back position, why nog select Balzaretti, Chielini and Pessotto.
Totti: he will try to put the team to his hand, he will pull the game, I think that all the passes will go to totti when he is on the field, he will try a lot, and he will get frustrated and nothing will come right.

My starting 11 (unfortunately I don't have Pessotto, Balzaretti, Chielini, Blasi):

Buffon
Zambrotta, Cana, Nesta, Grosso
Camo, Gattuso, Pirlo, De Rossi
Toni, Inzaghi
If there isn't any creativity then I would take out De Rossi and Del Piero would come in.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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ZhiXin said:
Regarding the midfield, I don't have any problems with it since most of the players r used to playing games in the big occasion. With a squad that boasts the likes of Gattuso, Pirlo, Camoranesi, De Rossi, Perrotta and Barone, there isn't really anything to be fearful of since all 6 have played in European competitions.

Basically this Italy squad has all the compartments complete, and with Lippi as the coach, I'm sure Italy will go very far in the SC campaign, barring any injuries to crucial members. Competition is surely present as Italy has so many good players vying for positions.

Lippi does not have replacemants for Pirlo and Totti, but what he can do is to rotate the team around to a new system, as he always does. If Pirlo is off-form, he can play Perrotta as a 2-way midfielder. Spalletti has given Perrotta a new role, which is y he is constantly performing for Roma and eventually receive a call-up. For Totti, well Lippi has got on with the DP - Toni - Gilardino trident which is demonstrated against Germany

But 1 mistake he has committed is the absence of Panucci, he can defend better than Oddo and Zaccardo to be precise, and he should get the nod by right since his performances for Roma has been good this season. Oddo can only make up some of it, but when it comes to defending, Panucci is better. Zaccardo still gives me the creeps. Regards to Lucarelli, I don't exactly know what is Lippi's reason, but I will still respect it, given that both would not get much playing time if they r played.

For the midfield role, I would go for Camoranesi - Pirlo - Gattuso. Pirlo is the catalyst of the Italy attack. But if he is off-form, this is where Perrotta comes in. Perrotta can help in the defence and start in the attack to
abt the replacements for totti and pirlo. I think that one of the many reasons that Lippi chose soo many strikers and alex with them is becuz he can play in the same role totti can. And alex proved to be effective in that role. Although i think totti is irreplaceable.
pirlo again is hard to replace due to his huge capabilities.But i think De rossi and barone r very good playing infront of the back four. I think de rossi will do well in that position and he is in good form.

abt panucci, well he publicly critisized lippi and if u do that... ur form doesnt matter, should just forget abt it. And i think that zambro will be playing on the right and grosso on the left anyway.
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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sateeh said:
abt the replacements for totti and pirlo. I think that one of the many reasons that Lippi chose soo many strikers and alex with them is becuz he can play in the same role totti can. And alex proved to be effective in that role. Although i think totti is irreplaceable.
pirlo again is hard to replace due to his huge capabilities.But i think De rossi and barone r very good playing infront of the back four. I think de rossi will do well in that position and he is in good form.

abt panucci, well he publicly critisized lippi and if u do that... ur form doesnt matter, should just forget abt it. And i think that zambro will be playing on the right and grosso on the left anyway.
I'm aware of Alex's capabilites, but u know that if DP is off form again, everybody will be over his head. Alex as a attack midfielder is ok to me. Forgive me for being bias, but Lippi made the correct decision in bringing DP along. With Toni, Gilardino and Inzaghi as strikers and DP and Totti as attacking midfielders cum strikers, the squad is strong.

I think that becos of Pirlo's poor form, I'm starting to doubt his abilities. De Rossi is a bit light weight for me and I prefer Barone as a DM more. Perrotta will suit the role more if he is given the chance to attack, as shown in the later stages of Roma. But I really hope taht Pirlo regains his form.

About the Panucci issue, I think that Lippi should forget his feud and bring him along. It's a shame that he is left out. I se him more realible than Zaccardo
I much prefer Zambro on the left and Oddo on the right. Oddo provides an added dimension in terms of free kicks.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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ZhiXin said:
I'm aware of Alex's capabilites, but u know that if DP is off form again, everybody will be over his head. Alex as a attack midfielder is ok to me. Forgive me for being bias, but Lippi made the correct decision in bringing DP along. With Toni, Gilardino and Inzaghi as strikers and DP and Totti as attacking midfielders cum strikers, the squad is strong.

I think that becos of Pirlo's poor form, I'm starting to doubt his abilities. De Rossi is a bit light weight for me and I prefer Barone as a DM more. Perrotta will suit the role more if he is given the chance to attack, as shown in the later stages of Roma. But I really hope taht Pirlo regains his form.

About the Panucci issue, I think that Lippi should forget his feud and bring him along. It's a shame that he is left out. I se him more realible than Zaccardo
I much prefer Zambro on the left and Oddo on the right. Oddo provides an added dimension in terms of free kicks.
DP earnt his call and i think due to his versatility when it comes to playing in the midfield as well as the attack and not forget his effect on games coming from the bench that earnt him his call.

i would also prefer barone to de rossi playing in pirlo's position, and perrota should be playing in a more offensive position.But with barone , the other midfield players will need to step up cuz if pirlo is off form is a big blow to the azzuri
 

denco

Superior Being
Jul 12, 2002
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sateeh said:
iaquinta is just useless and cap should've thought of getting a small forward, who could bet a better choice than vincenzo.

formation i think lippi would start with :

-------------------------gigi---------------------------------------

----grosso------------nesta-----------canna---------------zambro-------

-------------camo-------------pirlo---------------gattuso-------------

-------------------toti------------------------------------------

---------toni--------------gila----------------------------

goodluck to italy
Goodness you cannot get Capello outta your mind can ya? The squad holds no surprises and thats anot always a good thing. I am not very convinced about the abilities of the Palermo bunch of Grosso, Barone and Zaccardo. Materazzi is a joke and everyone knows that. I hope DDR starts every game as he is an all rounder, the likes of which Italy tend not to possess. He is the only midfielder that can attack , defend and head the ball, only suspect thing about him is his temperament, wonder why Roma players are like that. I personally do not like Panucci but to my surprise he was the best right back in seriea last season. I do not know if Tavano would have been worth a shot as you never know who is and who is not a flash in the pan. Iaquinta for all his faults and unpopularity has pace and can bring other players into the game, something i feel Lucarelli lacks and I am still not convinced of Lucarelli's goal scoring abilities at the highest level. Pirlo needs to step as has Nesta. Totti has a big question mark as he is not only unfit , he is not a go to guy in big tournaments for the azzurri or he has not thus far. The only tournament he has done reasonably well in was euro2000 and then he was not the star
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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denco said:
Goodness you cannot get Capello outta your mind can ya? The squad holds no surprises and thats anot always a good thing. I am not very convinced about the abilities of the Palermo bunch of Grosso, Barone and Zaccardo. Materazzi is a joke and everyone knows that. I hope DDR starts every game as he is an all rounder, the likes of which Italy tend not to possess. He is the only midfielder that can attack , defend and head the ball, only suspect thing about him is his temperament, wonder why Roma players are like that. I personally do not like Panucci but to my surprise he was the best right back in seriea last season. I do not know if Tavano would have been worth a shot as you never know who is and who is not a flash in the pan. Iaquinta for all his faults and unpopularity has pace and can bring other players into the game, something i feel Lucarelli lacks and I am still not convinced of Lucarelli's goal scoring abilities at the highest level. Pirlo needs to step as has Nesta. Totti has a big question mark as he is not only unfit , he is not a go to guy in big tournaments for the azzurri or he has not thus far. The only tournament he has done reasonably well in was euro2000 and then he was not the star
+ rep for getting that , haha... writing in the forum just makes u lose ur focus sometimes. Anyway

In the 2nd part of the season grosso and barone started to look like they were very unconvincing. I thought they did well in the first half. Zaccardo doesnt convince me at all, and i see him as a player that cant handle it on the big stage.

abt Iaquinta, he has the capabilities but for some reason we only saw them in the begining of this season and then he just slept through the season.Will he do well if he got the chance in WC ? I dont know. Personally i would've preferred Tavano.

Pirlo and Nesta need to step up their game, and if they were off form it would really hurt the team.

De Rossi is a great all rounder, but as u said his temper is really hurting his game. And also with the trio (gattuso,pirlo,camo) in midfield i dont think that there is a place for him.

Totti is big mystery to everyone, will he perform ?Everyone hopes so cuz everyone wants to see wat can he do on the big stage. I think he has matured and also i think he will be one of the stars of this WC.

finally Panucci, one thing he should've kept his mouth shut until the last squad was announced.But he couldn't so he paid the price.Just like Christian Woerns paid the price in Germany.Although he was the best German defender in the bundesliga, but then jurgen klinsmann ignored him. Just like lippi ignored panucci.

and i wont even comment on materazzi, it is a joke.
(ps now that favalli and c.zanetti r leaving inter, so then they dont have any italians in their squad right ?
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
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sateeh said:
Totti is big mystery to everyone, will he perform ?Everyone hopes so cuz everyone wants to see wat can he do on the big stage. I think he has matured and also i think he will be one of the stars of this WC.
Unless he turns out to be a Del Piero Euro 2000 :pumpkin:
 

Byrone

Peen Meister
Dec 19, 2005
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baggio said:
Can I go further with your sister, my soon to be brother in law?:oops:

:lol: u have a better chance in gettin Sonia Del Piero than u have with gettin a Lebanese girl my friend.Rab will tell u that they are full of cr*p:D
 

Morra10

Senior Member
Apr 30, 2006
3,576
edpiero said:
I want to see this attack

-----------------------------
------------------Toni------
-----------------------------
----Del Piero---------------
-----------------------------
-------------Totti-----------

Have we ever seen what Totti and Del Piero could do if they played together, Im sure Lippi will use this for the qualifying stages

na he wont use that.........switch up toni and totti and im sure he will use that.....
When totti plays good he controls the midfield and is probably the best one touch passer in the game. He thinks on his feet and is the best at controlling a counter attack. He puts the ball where it needs to be.
------------------------------
------------totti-----------
------------------------------
---Del Piero---------------
---------------------Toni---
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
12,645
Morra10 said:
na he wont use that.........switch up toni and totti and im sure he will use that.....
When totti plays good he controls the midfield and is probably the best one touch passer in the game. He thinks on his feet and is the best at controlling a counter attack. He puts the ball where it needs to be.
------------------------------
------------totti-----------
------------------------------
---Del Piero---------------
---------------------Toni---
hold on .. you mean Toni to play up front striker position right ? if yes, then were on the same page :) I want Lippi to use this badly
 

Morra10

Senior Member
Apr 30, 2006
3,576
edpiero said:
hold on .. you mean Toni to play up front striker position right ? if yes, then were on the same page :) I want Lippi to use this badly
o my bad i read yours the wrong way :p

most people post their squads defense to offense not offense to defense..........
 

ZhiXin

Senior Member
Oct 1, 2004
10,321
sateeh said:
+ rep for getting that , haha... writing in the forum just makes u lose ur focus sometimes. Anyway

In the 2nd part of the season grosso and barone started to look like they were very unconvincing. I thought they did well in the first half. Zaccardo doesnt convince me at all, and i see him as a player that cant handle it on the big stage.

abt Iaquinta, he has the capabilities but for some reason we only saw them in the begining of this season and then he just slept through the season.Will he do well if he got the chance in WC ? I dont know. Personally i would've preferred Tavano.

Pirlo and Nesta need to step up their game, and if they were off form it would really hurt the team.

De Rossi is a great all rounder, but as u said his temper is really hurting his game. And also with the trio (gattuso,pirlo,camo) in midfield i dont think that there is a place for him.

Totti is big mystery to everyone, will he perform ?Everyone hopes so cuz everyone wants to see wat can he do on the big stage. I think he has matured and also i think he will be one of the stars of this WC.

finally Panucci, one thing he should've kept his mouth shut until the last squad was announced.But he couldn't so he paid the price.Just like Christian Woerns paid the price in Germany.Although he was the best German defender in the bundesliga, but then jurgen klinsmann ignored him. Just like lippi ignored panucci.

and i wont even comment on materazzi, it is a joke.
(ps now that favalli and c.zanetti r leaving inter, so then they dont have any italians in their squad right ?
The group of Palermo players have been unconvincing since Gigi Del Neri took over, this has left gaps for defence and which is y they r unable to perform at this stage. However Palermo did ok in the UEFA Cup competition, only to lose to a more experienced Schalke. Whether big stages or not, yea, they still don't really convince me despite getting called up by Lippi, so I would start Oddo at RB. Regarding Panucci, the hatred was already there, but Panucci decided to light the fuel for the fire and shut himself off. Sad to say, he was the best RB for the whole season I have to admit. But then he is well known for his attitude

Pirlo and Nesta is greatly needed for the squad, let's hope that Italy performs well in this stages. About De Rossi, I'm still doubtful of his temper, which is y I prefer Perrotta. I would actually give the nod to Perrotta instead.

Totti? I'm sure he will be a different man after all these setbacks that he received. I'm sure he will perform well in the WC to shut off the media since they were all over him 2 years ago. I actually hope that he will perform for Italy's sake.

With regards to Materazzi, can you think of anybody who is better than him? I can't
 

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