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AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,782
boot camp update :D I unfortunately/fortunately depending on how you see it. I didn't pass my third and final phase which deals with react/redux/thunk/saga, which is ok for me because just a day in the first week I knew I had to repeat this phase no two ways about it. now, this third phase unlike the previous 3 ( remember it starts with phase 0) where you study for three full weeks, this phase is only one week and 3 days long ( yes you study all the above mentioned in just one week and 3 days!!! CRAZY!! I KNOW!!) also what I noticed with this phase is my Russian can take me so far without it becoming a factor in my understanding. surprisingly I did pretty much most of the tasks required in the test but I was quite honest with my instructors and came clean to them about me just copy-pasting most of the code from previous assignments I had solved with a friend of mine who also studies with me at the BootCamp. whereas it's ok to re-use code, I can't say I understood what I was copy-pasting. I struggled gravely with context, states, and overall with redux so I was happy and relieved when I was told I was going to repeat this phase. I spent the previous week coding along with a cool YouTuber/instructor called dev ed who explains things well and most importantly in English!! so I am good for now and ready to go back on Monday and get my hands dirty with this phase.

i have to say react is such an awesome thing to learn and it's no surprise it's the most in-demand library!! but my god is there a lot to learn!! add on top of that redux and you quickly have your hands busy. anyway, will keep you guys updated fingers crossed I pass it this time around!
One day it'll just click and you'll get it. Good luck man :tup:
 

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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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boot camp update :D I unfortunately/fortunately depending on how you see it. I didn't pass my third and final phase which deals with react/redux/thunk/saga, which is ok for me because just a day in the first week I knew I had to repeat this phase no two ways about it. now, this third phase unlike the previous 3 ( remember it starts with phase 0) where you study for three full weeks, this phase is only one week and 3 days long ( yes you study all the above mentioned in just one week and 3 days!!! CRAZY!! I KNOW!!) also what I noticed with this phase is my Russian can take me so far without it becoming a factor in my understanding. surprisingly I did pretty much most of the tasks required in the test but I was quite honest with my instructors and came clean to them about me just copy-pasting most of the code from previous assignments I had solved with a friend of mine who also studies with me at the BootCamp. whereas it's ok to re-use code, I can't say I understood what I was copy-pasting. I struggled gravely with context, states, and overall with redux so I was happy and relieved when I was told I was going to repeat this phase. I spent the previous week coding along with a cool YouTuber/instructor called dev ed who explains things well and most importantly in English!! so I am good for now and ready to go back on Monday and get my hands dirty with this phase.

i have to say react is such an awesome thing to learn and it's no surprise it's the most in-demand library!! but my god is there a lot to learn!! add on top of that redux and you quickly have your hands busy. anyway, will keep you guys updated fingers crossed I pass it this time around!
happy for you bro.
good luck.
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,418
hello Siamak!!:))) what's new? I graduated from my Bootcamp after spending almost 6 months!! :D but I did it. I went through career week where we were taught different things with regards to landing a job. I will share everything I learned with you guys in the coming few days as I have some unfinished things I need to sort out with my family. but wait for my post as I will share what we were told especially with regards to landing a job :tup: I'm now going to add more stuff to my portfolio so it's worth looking at.

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This is a post for anyone on the Juventus family or even visitors of this forum who are thinking of becoming web developers or getting into the tech industry. it's worth mentioning a bit more about myself so you can have a much clearer judgment. ( I say that because there are things I wish I knew before I jumped into this Bootcamp).

facts:
1- I'm 37 years old! and fuck no you are never too old to learn anything be it coding or anything you find yourself passionate about. along my journey, I've met guys who are 40+ who went through the boot camp, and yes it was a tiny bit difficult getting a job but they ended up getting jobs sooner or later and that's amazing!! so if you are hesitant because of the age issue don't even think about that!!!

2- the past 5 months have been the furthest I've been from my comfort zone!! to the point, I no longer know what my comfort zone was! why? well, first of all having spent two years not studying anything it was time to get into that studying mindset where you have to be committed both physically and mentally. I had to give up a lot of things I enjoy to be able to stay focused on the mission on hand. example: I don't even remember the last time I sat through an entire Juve game! yes yes, I was fake fanning :D I saw my family for thirty minutes in the morning before going to my boot camp and on the weekends I struggled with not thinking about coding or being stressed out because there were concepts I didn't understand, and that was annoying so I know it's easier said than done but try your best to switch off when you have days off so you can enjoy the company of your loved ones and also for your brain to take a break because it will need it!!

3- NEVER EVER underestimate yourself!! your brain is capable of insane feats of brilliance!! I come from a nontechnical background. I studied pharmacy for god knows how long ( the real number as embarrassing as it is: 13 long bloody years!!) I then moved to Russia and studied political science + Russian. I did dabble in HTML and CSS but javascript was a nightmare for me. I joined this Bootcamp knowing only what data types were and what a for loop does. there will be days where you feel you are very dumb!! this feeling gets worse when your classmates who have some knowledge in programming seem to go smoothly through the assignments but fear not it's a matter of time for you to hit that fast pace so never be disheartened just stay focused and never compare yourself with anyone else but your self!! we all learn things at a different rate.

If I can do it so can you!! if I can do it in Russian which is not my first nor second language (it's my third language and yes I understand but it's not the same thing as understanding things in your native tongue or English) but here I am!! yes, I failed each phase but I kept pushing and so can you!! oh side note: I WAS ALWAYS A QUITTER!!!! ( true story I almost quit this Bootcamp when things got hard but luckily for me I have a warrior of a wife who knew how to get me back in the right mindset) but I was determined ( don't ask me why but there is something so amazingly sweet knowing you are the only foreigner going through this and wanting to prove to yourself that you are invincible. the underdog rules!! ) to get through this come what may!! and that's the mentality you need not just in coding but in every single thing worth trying!!

you might be wondering are you confident of your skills now? the honest answer is no!! I feel I'm not ready but I always remember myself on the first day and what I know today that I didn't even hear of back when I started. I have a plan of coding more and more and learning things I didn't quite understand back in the boot camp or things I forgot so that I can feel confident but I will also continue applying for jobs and going to hr interviews and tech interviews and I know I will crash and burn on many of them before I land my job but you learn from each crash!! and you will get better with each interview so get ready for that!!

** before joining a BootCamp, even if the website says they take you from a complete newbie to job-ready. please do yourself a favor and at least 2 months prior to your starting date get comfortable with the following topics you will be in much better shape ;) p.s this is with regards to javascript:

1- Data types in javascript. know the difference between primitive and objects. also know a couple of examples ( there are kind's you probably won't use ever like symbol or bigint but just know what they are and in which cases you would use them)

2- Arrays, you need to know what they are, the difference between an array and an object. also, get familiar with array methods you will be using them a lot!! ( particularly map, reduce, sort, split etc)

3- for loops, while-loop, if-else etc get familiar and know when you would use them and why.

4- objects!! how do you create them, the key-value way objects work, how to access data stored in objects. for more in-depth information check out: https://javascript.info/

if you know some Russian or if you can use Yandex translate you are in for a treat because for some reason the Russian version of this website is packed with a lot more info compared to the English version.

5- DOM I can't stress enough about this!! understand what a DOM is how do you interact with it.

6- get familiar with PostgreSQL or MySQL. I would ask the BootCamp about which database system they teach and I would get familiar with that.

7- Classes and prototypes. check this out and just try to get familiar with it. i know its a tough topic but it would help you a lot if its not the first time for you to hear about some of the concepts ;)




hope this insight gives you the motivation you need to keep going on your journey! :))) :beer:
 
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Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,247
Thanks for that, @Bisco. I'm also thinking of doing coding, not sure as yet, but your post is encouraging. Also maybe web design
Same, I'm taking online courses for web dev, I want to get in the field, get a bit of experience and once I'm comfortable and have a decent grasp of how to learn different programming languages, I wanna go balls deep in learning solidity and other crypto related programming languages.

Then i'm gonna get @lgorTudor to post his hand, then we get jeet shills, then we become multi-gorrillionaires
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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,749
Same, I'm taking online courses for web dev, I want to get in the field, get a bit of experience and once I'm comfortable and have a decent grasp of how to learn different programming languages, I wanna go balls deep in learning solidity and other crypto related programming languages.

Then i'm gonna get @lgorTudor to post his hand, then we get jeet shills, then we become multi-gorrillionaires
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Web dev is what I meant btw, not design (shows how much I know). How's that going?
 
Jun 7, 2003
3,496
@Bisco @AFL_ITALIA @suligodsilla @Cerval @Kopanja @Martin
I know this question is not very relevant but I am a little curious to get a little more information.
What is your university degree?
Do you need a university degree if you want to work as a programmer? because I noticed the requirement for Bachelors degree have increased.
From my experience, you don't need a university degree for working as a programmer but a degree is needed for climbing up the job ladder into lead positions. The most important thing for the companies is that you can write functioning good code in a very short time. You can achieve that by exercising a lot, like everything in life.
 

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