The Obama Deception (3 Viewers)
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Here's the thing though. Most people would say it's already gone to hell a long time ago. But those who still believe in success will eventually realize it, just like in Vietnam. And guess what they'll say then. "Well, we failed, but our intentions were good, so that counts for something." First of all, no it doesn't. If you cause a humanitarian catastrophe it doesn't help to say that you meant well. Secondly, it's a lie. No state has ever done anything out of goodwill and people are idiots for believing it. They can't see that if they hadn't believed in this lie then they wouldn't have consented to the war, and therefore their government couldn't have done it. That is exactly why they had to be made to believe this.
Martin, I agree, and I think it will always be the same like this. Because people are gulable(don't know how it is spelled) and guverment or the those whith power will always try to fool general public and they will almost always succeed, because the mass of the people are easily fooled.
IrishZebra, I think that to go all out believing in all theories or don't believe them at all is a wrong thing to do, one has to find the middle ground. And that in todays world with so much information flying around is the hardest thing to do.
IrishZebra, I think that to go all out believing in all theories or don't believe them at all is a wrong thing to do, one has to find the middle ground. And that in todays world with so much information flying around is the hardest thing to do.
What the man is told is a lie, we're not talking black and white here man, if everything was 100% fact then there'd be no conspiracy theories, except the Lizard people one, thats just insane. Theories and Lies are different thing i guess would be my point.
The irish state sends them (under the auspices of the U.N. / EU of course). We are seen as great contributors to peace-keeping worldwide. We have done a fair bit out of goodwill, as im sure many states have, there was no vested interest when we went into the Congo (and kicked some ass might i add)
The irish state sends them (under the auspices of the U.N. / EU of course). We are seen as great contributors to peace-keeping worldwide. We have done a fair bit out of goodwill, as im sure many states have, there was no vested interest when we went into the Congo (and kicked some ass might i add)
What we call a conspiracy theory is something that is poorly supported by evidence, yes? So you speculate about something being different but you can't convince anyone because you don't have the facts.
Now you say you shouldn't believe all of those theories but you should believe one? Think about that logic for a minute.
So the Irish government said "hey man, the Congo is not looking well, maybe we should send our guys there"? No, it didn't. The UN said "Hey Ireland, you're up." See the difference?
Now you say you shouldn't believe all of those theories but you should believe one? Think about that logic for a minute.
So the Irish government said "hey man, the Congo is not looking well, maybe we should send our guys there"? No, it didn't. The UN said "Hey Ireland, you're up." See the difference?
No its a tentative theory that proposes events different and often more sinster that what is originally presented as the truth. I supose you could re-term it to "the only person crazier than the person who doesnt dismiss a single conspriacy theory is the man that dismisses them all although as we differ on our deifntion of a key term it'd probably be fruitless
Ireland offered, we weren't told and we weren't obliged.
Ireland offered, we weren't told and we weren't obliged.
I don't think it's such a good expression, but basically what you mean to say is that "all is not what it seems". And that's well.. obvious, isn't it? Purely from our own life experience there have been times when people deceived us or others because they had some motive at hand that they didn't feel comfortable divulging.
Well maybe there's a case to be made for peace keeping forces. They have strict orders that they can't fire on people and stuff. And they're completely neutral. But when a government says "we're going in to free the people" in an act of war, well..
Well maybe there's a case to be made for peace keeping forces. They have strict orders that they can't fire on people and stuff. And they're completely neutral. But when a government says "we're going in to free the people" in an act of war, well..
It was actually a quote but i cant remember who said it 
Most adages are obvious, like "who watches the watchers" etc it doesnt make them any less prudent
I agree with that unless it a case of invading a country thats been taken over by another, although Just War theory is a load of hippie crap
Most adages are obvious, like "who watches the watchers" etc it doesnt make them any less prudent
I agree with that unless it a case of invading a country thats been taken over by another, although Just War theory is a load of hippie crap
Here ya go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_War
I agree with you totally though, on this point we have no differing contention, for once
I agree with you totally though, on this point we have no differing contention, for once
Former Italian President Cossiga, who exposed Operation Gladio, says 9/11 was an intelligence network plot.
http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_...ga_27f4ccee-9f55-11dc-8807-0003ba99c53b.shtml
http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_...ga_27f4ccee-9f55-11dc-8807-0003ba99c53b.shtml
