I take it you're not going to read the links
I'll summarize quickly because I gotta be up for work in 5 hrs.
He claimed to be the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ; The Messiah and the reformer of the age. Other Muslims interpret a verse of the Qur'an that says "Khatam Nabiyeen" which means "Seal of Prophets". What this means is that Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings be upon him) was the last prophet and that no one can come after him. Which is true, but our interpretation differs in that we believe that Prophet Muhammad was the last law bearing prophet (law meaning; Torah, Bible, Qur'an).
Other Muslims are waiting for the return of Jesus Christ just like Christians (however their expectations are different). We believe Jesus Christ didn't die on the cross, nor did he ascend into the heavens (belief that other Muslims hold) but that he survived and escaped to Kashmir, where he died a natural death (see
, and
book)
We believe that the 2nd coming that everyone's waiting for, whether it be the Messiah of the Jews, Buddha, Krishna, etc. has already come and he was Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was that person.
So you might say..."so what? what's so bad about that" and you're quite right in asking. This somehow riles up these Muslims and ever since the 1950's we've been
persecuted . But it's not surprising, most Muslims today are too busy pointing fingers at each other and seem to have divine right to declare who's a Muslim and who's not. Human progress is an alien concept to them.
Weird. And here I generally thought that Muslims were generally discouraged from calling others "non-Muslim" heretics ... at least to the extent that Muhammad (loosely) said that whenever someone calls their brother a heretic, one of them is right. The question is always which one.
Of course, get a few cranked out Mullahs and anything is possible I suppose...
No, he said whosoever calls another Muslim a kaffir (infidel) is a kaffir himself. No one has the authority to make any such claim.
How did we get from Mats Sundin to this?
Feel free to move this to one of the gazillion off-topic threads we have now. I'm going to sleep fella's. If you any more questions, I'll pick it up tomorrow or drop me a pm. Goodnight.
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