the new,improved,updated and completely irrelevant 2009-Cassano to Juve thread (5 Viewers)

[Red]

His past is enough for me to judge. There are just no guarantees with the guy, he's a ticking time bomb. Sure he's behaving himself lately and probably thats because he wants to attract the big boys, but who's to say that after he establishes himself in the first team he won't get back to his ways?

You wouldn't be willing to gamble on a world class talent because he is/was a bit out of control?

I think Cassano has calmed down considerably and, over the years, Juve has always been a club which has been pretty good at keeping players on the straight and narrow.

It is a gamble I would be willing to take at the moment because I don't see Cassano's temperament as a bigger gamble than spending on other players who aren't proven in Serie A.

Yup especially with the many strikers you guys have, there are more pressing matters if you ask me

I'm suggesting that Cassano could be the replacement for Nedved and there could be a switch to a 4-3-3.

 

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[Sadomin]

If Cassano comes, it would be as a trequartista. His vision and passing is superb, while his striking instincts aren't better than what we have.

 

[Marc]

No to Cassano.

 

[Fred]

You wouldn't be willing to gamble on a world class talent because he is/was a bit out of control?

I think Cassano has calmed down considerably and, over the years, Juve has always been a club which has been pretty good at keeping players on the straight and narrow.

It is a gamble I would be willing to take at the moment because I don't see Cassano's temperament as a bigger gamble than spending on other players who aren't proven in Serie A.



I'm suggesting that Cassano could be the replacement for Nedved and there could be a switch to a 4-3-3.

A bit out of control? Thats an understatement.

I also don't think your team is set up to play a 4-3-3, i'm assuming you're talking about a 4-3-3 not a 4-3-1-2?

For starters two of the players out of the front three should be able to assume wide positions, I don't think DP is comfortable at all in that position, we've all seen him playing there for the NT and he obviously can't play in a wide role.

Secondly, Since there are no natural wide players you're going to need your fullbacks to offer you width and attacking threat.

 

[Osman]

What hassle has Cassano caused since he got his ban last season, Fred?

If we are ever going to sign Cassano, this summer is the time to do it.

Cassano doesnt seem to be that improved as an individual as we hoped, he seems to have calmed down for other reasons, it seems, not too promising reason. A samp fan in XT:

if you think that he leaves Sampdoria just to warm Juventus bench you are deluded. He wants to play every game he can. He is subbed just when he asks to be subbed. This is the only way with Cassano.
If Cassano joins Juventus I really hope Del Piero is there: the team will be destroyed before the start of the championship and Cassano will come back to Sampdoria in the winter transfer campaign.

Yes, very serious. And I tell you more, he doesn't even train in the morning and the coach Mazzarri has accepted it as a fact. :drunk:

why do you think he feels at ease at Sampdoria? Cause he can do whatever he likes in the club! Have you ever seen him running back to defend? No! He is just asked to invent something in every game and he does it perfectly. He will never find another club so... prone to his wishes.

The question is, which Cassano will we see if you dont cater to every whim of his like he is the emperor, like Samp has done?

There is no way that will fly in Juve, or any other top team. So it seems like he still needs to re-check his priorities before a top team takes another chance with him. As said, no way will Juve let him come and go to trainings as he pleases, or only be subbed when he asks too etc.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

sigh... scratch Cassano off that list. Who left? Ribery, Silva and Diego.

 

[Bjerknes]

Ah, ToniSamp. I'm afraid that little cunt is correct though.

 

[Marc]

Good point. Cassano is simply not fit for a top team. I am convinced he would flop at Juve.

 

[Osman]

Ah, ToniSamp. I'm afraid that little cunt is correct though.

I still like Cassano, and wouldnt mind gambling on ihm, IF we get cheaply enough, and really tell him off straight. But as you said, he is correct. He knows the ins and outs of his team. We only notice him not throwing a tantrum for for some months now, but its unfortunate to find out he hasnt because they treat him like he is two levels above the club, and not because he has improved, with no strings attached.

 

[Amaurisimo]

Ah, ToniSamp. I'm afraid that little cunt is correct though.

That ToniSamo reminds me little bit of you, but he is right, so it means u r right too (sometimes)

 

[Bjerknes]

That ToniSamo reminds me little bit of you, but he is right, so it means u r right too (sometimes)

Thank you!

 

[only-juve]

The question is, which Cassano will we see if you dont cater to every whim of his like he is the emperor, like Samp has done?

There is no way that will fly in Juve, or any other top team. So it seems like he still needs to re-check his priorities before a top team takes another chance with him. As said, no way will Juve let him come and go to trainings as he pleases, or only be subbed when he asks too etc.

Totally true, thats why its much better not to have the guy. Cassano is simply a huuuge risk that we can't afford to take. Hope we'll focus on silva, diego or whoever and lets leave him in sampdoria where he's enjoying he's time there....

 

[Lo-Pan]

I can't believe that Cassano is treated so tenderly and submissively by the Sampdoria manager and club as a whole. Allowing a player the kind of liberties talked about above would cause huge rifts in any team, however well he played and performed as an individual. For sure, he earns more money than his team-mates but as for training less and choosing when he is substituted, those suggestions seem a little too far fetched for me to believe.

I have seen him play a few times for Samp this season, and he has not stuck out, in those games, as a primadonna. He has stuck out solely for his creativity. Which is something we lack.

I would be happy if we signed him, though I don't think we will, unless that is, we are changing formation next season. It makes sense to accept that he would only leave Samp, where he is playing well and forming a devastating partnership with Pazzini, if he is guaranteed a starting place, or he saw that we will have a spot open in attack, in a new formation, which he felt he could make his own. No player wants to leave a good situation where he is happier for one where he won't be playing...

But yes, I would be glad to have him. Del Piero is weaker, physically, and far less of a threat to the opposition, other than from set pieces. I use Del Piero as a comparison, because his part of our team is the only part presently, where I see Cassano playing, if he arrives...The difference in physique and pace, is incredibly important for players who like to dribble and pass players.

 

[Salvo]

i wouldnt say del piero is far less a threat to the oppostion compared to cassano. what del piero brings cassano can only dream of.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Del Piero is a great man. A better man...a different species...he exudes virtue, as a man. Yet at times, especially this last season, I have seen too many Juve games in which he has done little to nothing in regards to threatening the opposition. He has lost more pace this last season than at any time before, age is catching up with his body. He also seems weaker, physically, than I have ever seen him before. He can still beat a player, but unless he is close to goal, that player generally has a chance to take a second swipe for the ball after chasing him down. GONE is the Sandro who would cut in from the left, slipping between defenders, put the ball on his right boot then curl it into the top corner...He has lost much of his dynamic nature on the pitch.

As a man, as I have said, Del Piero is a King compared with Cassano as a nasty, petulant jester. On the pitch, in history, Del Piero;s career is like comparing a Saint to a stupid tramp. But in the NOW...indeed, I think Cassano is more of a consistent danger to opposition defences. I also think its a shame that Ranieri has not given Giovinco more opportunities in Sandro's position, rather than deployed wide left.

I love Sandro. He will forever remain for me and the rest of the Juve supporters a legend. But I am scrutinizing components of a team which wins games. Not humility, or decency. They don't win you games...This is a problem which extends to the coach, for me...I like Ranieri, as a man. He comports himself impeccably, makes the odd strange, amusing, yet inoffensive comment, like his recent reference to chinese referees, and has never led me to believe there is a nasty streak lying beneath his cool, often jovial surface...Yet, his teeth lack sharpness. He dines with good grace, good table manners, but I have a preference doe including some elements in a team, which rip into their meals like Atilla the Hun, focused more on the Eating than the Show of Eating.

Its why I smile at the suggestion of Cassano coming to Turin. Its why I smile when people tell me that Italy didn't deserve to win the world cup, only gaining the trophy through disgraceful behaviour by Matterazzi...Maybe they have a point, but the fact is, Matterazzi helped us win the final. And I wonder how many italians feel so strongly about him calling Zidane;s mother a whore, or whatever is was that he said to inspire such a strong reaction, that they would prefer to have finished second and not grabbed the Winners Status....

Its like Maradona's Hand of God...he doesn't regret that, and neither to the Argies...I am british sicillian, yet I hold no grudge against Diego.

We lack that kind of character at Juve, with only Chiellini coming close...Zebina will add some spice to proceedings, but lacks talent as a footballer.

I take my hat of to Sandro, for a beautiful, glorious, loyal career, but his stellar light is fast fading...

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

no for cassano! but then again he is very talented and can cause upset in opposition's defence but he can also be a liability... i think he would do as a vinny sub or the other way around

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

If what ToniSamp said is true, there's no way that shit would fly at Juve. Disappointing though, becuase I was beginning to warm to the idea of Cassano at Juve.

And no wonder he is overlooked for the Azzurri, obviously Lippi wouldn't put up with that shit.

 

[Byrone]

Yup especially with the many strikers you guys have, there are more pressing matters if you ask me

The main point for is if any time was right to buy Cassano it would have been when Real let him go on the cheap.Even then he would have left for a handsome profit & either Ibra or Mutu could have stayed.

On a more urgent matter not only does Secco have to look for a Nedved replacement but one for Camo as well IMO.

 

[Sadomin]

The main point for is if any time was right to buy Cassano it would have been when Real let him go on the cheap.Even then he would have left for a handsome profit & either Ibra or Mutu could have stayed.

On a more urgent matter not only does Secco have to look for a Nedved replacement but one for Camo as well IMO.

Preferably we'd get someone able to replace both, allowing the likes of Giovinco and De Ceglie to fill in when necessary.

 

[Seven]

Del Piero is a great man. A better man...a different species...he exudes virtue, as a man. Yet at times, especially this last season, I have seen too many Juve games in which he has done little to nothing in regards to threatening the opposition. He has lost more pace this last season than at any time before, age is catching up with his body. He also seems weaker, physically, than I have ever seen him before. He can still beat a player, but unless he is close to goal, that player generally has a chance to take a second swipe for the ball after chasing him down. GONE is the Sandro who would cut in from the left, slipping between defenders, put the ball on his right boot then curl it into the top corner...He has lost much of his dynamic nature on the pitch.

As a man, as I have said, Del Piero is a King compared with Cassano as a nasty, petulant jester. On the pitch, in history, Del Piero;s career is like comparing a Saint to a stupid tramp. But in the NOW...indeed, I think Cassano is more of a consistent danger to opposition defences. I also think its a shame that Ranieri has not given Giovinco more opportunities in Sandro's position, rather than deployed wide left.

I love Sandro. He will forever remain for me and the rest of the Juve supporters a legend. But I am scrutinizing components of a team which wins games. Not humility, or decency. They don't win you games...This is a problem which extends to the coach, for me...I like Ranieri, as a man. He comports himself impeccably, makes the odd strange, amusing, yet inoffensive comment, like his recent reference to chinese referees, and has never led me to believe there is a nasty streak lying beneath his cool, often jovial surface...Yet, his teeth lack sharpness. He dines with good grace, good table manners, but I have a preference doe including some elements in a team, which rip into their meals like Atilla the Hun, focused more on the Eating than the Show of Eating.

Its why I smile at the suggestion of Cassano coming to Turin. Its why I smile when people tell me that Italy didn't deserve to win the world cup, only gaining the trophy through disgraceful behaviour by Matterazzi...Maybe they have a point, but the fact is, Matterazzi helped us win the final. And I wonder how many italians feel so strongly about him calling Zidane;s mother a whore, or whatever is was that he said to inspire such a strong reaction, that they would prefer to have finished second and not grabbed the Winners Status....

Its like Maradona's Hand of God...he doesn't regret that, and neither to the Argies...I am british sicillian, yet I hold no grudge against Diego.

We lack that kind of character at Juve, with only Chiellini coming close...Zebina will add some spice to proceedings, but lacks talent as a footballer.

I take my hat of to Sandro, for a beautiful, glorious, loyal career, but his stellar light is fast fading...

Anyone calling Del Piero Sandro doesn't know the first thing about Juventus.