the new,improved,updated and completely irrelevant 2009-Cassano to Juve thread (6 Viewers)

[Luca]

Be realistic, even giovinco says he's happy for the time being but he will re-evaluate in the summer. Unless he has more faith shown to him by our manager the exit door looks likely and I doubt ranieri will have any qualms about this.

 

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[Salvo]

ranieri always claims he has nothing against the "boy" but he doesnt playing always claiming the team is settled what the fuck is that meant to mean????

on rai they said next week ranieri and spalletti are playing for there jobs, do i think this is true? no, but i hope it is but our board doesnt have the balls.

 

[Toro_Merda]

Why did they sign the boy till 2013 then, with so long negotiations? Gio has the longest contract along with Sissoko and Buffon and I remember Secco saying ."This extension is in line with our aim of putting young elements in the team, but high quality ones." The boy is staying for good

 

[Luca]

Where is the next generation of Italian stars?

The only one I see is rossi and that is because he plays in a league where they aren't afraid to play youngsters.
Italian philosophy of football is totally wrong and they will pay for it in the coming years.

 

[Salvo]

im sure he was expecting a shot with the first team though.

 

[Salvo]

The only one I see is rossi and that is because he plays in a league where they aren't afraid to play youngsters.
Italian philosophy of football is totally wrong and they will pay for it in the coming years.

completely agree!

 

[Sadomin]

Where is the next generation of Italian stars?

Italian players are peaking later and later. You don't see young Buffons and Del Pieros anymore, dominating as a teenager.

The youngest Italian top class player I can think of is Giuseppe Rossi, who was given his big chance outside of Italy.

Players like Marchisio and Giovinco could become world class anywhere between 25-30. Compare this to Kaka, Messi and C. Ronaldo who reached that level in their pre-23s.

 

[Luca]

Why did they sign the boy till 2013 then, with so long negotiations? Gio has the longest contract along with Sissoko and Buffon and I remember Secco saying ."This extension is in line with our aim of putting young elements in the team, but high quality ones." The boy is staying for good

And who are you to confirm this? I heard out of giovincos own mouth during an interview that he will re-evaluate at the end of the season.
If I was him I would leave in the summer, before his career collapses

 

[Salvo]

even secco said he will play the out the season and then we will see.

 

[Luca]

Italian players are peaking later and later. You don't see young Buffons and Del Pieros anymore, dominating as a teenager.

The youngest Italian top class player I can think of is Giuseppe Rossi, who was given his big chance outside of Italy.

Players like Marchisio and Giovinco could become world class anywhere between 25-30. Compare this to Kaka, Messi and C. Ronaldo who reached that level in their pre-23s.

Exactly my point, giovinco will have like 5 caps by the time he is 25 whilst players like fabregas will easily have 60+. And on the international stage experience is everything.

 

[Toro_Merda]

And who are you to confirm this? I heard out of giovincos own mouth during an interview that he will re-evaluate at the end of the season.
If I was him I would leave in the summer, before his career collapses

And you obviously are not Giovinco, so don't try think instead of him! He was born and played his whole life in Turin, except the year at empoli, maybe there is an emotional element here. Before his career collapses ??:melayyanandmessi:

 

[Luca]

And you obviously are not Giovinco, so don't try think instead of him! He was born and played his whole life in Turin, except the year at empoli, maybe there is an emotional element here. Before his career collapses ??:melayyanandmessi:

Why the hate towards me, believe me don't get me wound up.
Anyway, would you want to spend the rest of your career sitting on the bench or would you try to acheive something personal. I'm sure giovinco is not that moronic, he's a winner and winners don't settle for second best.
I'm sure a 22 year old hailed as one of the next best things won't want to vanish because if he dosent start playing consistently now he will fade fast.
And his contract doesn't mean shit, he can ask for a transfer any time he wants.

 

[Seven]

The only one I see is rossi and that is because he plays in a league where they aren't afraid to play youngsters.
Italian philosophy of football is totally wrong and they will pay for it in the coming years.

They won the WC in 2006. That means they're good for another 10 years or so.

 

[cunninlynguists]

If Giovinco continues playing like he did against Sampdoria, I can't see him leaving.
He's coming for sure now. I don't like the idea of giving up some of the brightest Italian stars for a Cassano that might choke with a big club (like he did before).

Next to that, if this is the star Secco is talking about in the summer, I'll shoot myself

 

[Luca]

Football is changing though, the games about physical attributes, not tactical. Obviously younger is better here.

 

[bianconero]

They won the WC in 2006. That means they're good for another 10 years or so.

Who were their main players?

 

[Sadomin]

Who were their main players?

Interestingly enough, the team isn't really worse today than it was then. It's really just the fullback positions and Pirlo who have suffered.

 

[Red]

Another cassanata is inevitable given his past, and if I were defending against him, I would know exactly how to make him lose it.

You don't think every other defender has been winding him up this season?

 

[bianconero]

Interestingly enough, the team isn't really worse today than it was then. It's really just the fullback positions and Pirlo who have suffered.

You yoking?
Most of them are over the hill.

 

[v1rtu4l]

no need to worry about giovinco ... perhaps nedved gets to play so often, because ranieri does not want to make pavels last season bad for him ... you saw how alex reacted when he was substituted ... i dont know what nedved would have said, if he was in the second line behind gio and de ceglie for his spot ... i guess he would have been mad too ...

the old guard just demands to be played because there are used to it