The Neverending Story-Cassano to Juve (38 Viewers)

[Mark]

++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++


Read it again...i did not say get the **** outa here...read the posts again.

Or i will have to quote myself.

Yeah, I'm the one you said to Cassano fans to F-off if they start insulting people. If they take it personal it's not my fault. We're all Juve fans here and just get along with giving sh1t to other people if they don't agree with them.

Now let's all sing and dance aroung the camp fire.

 

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[#10]

++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++

 

[Juno]

holy sh@t, i'be been away for 2 days and came back just to see this thread explode...had to read 20 pages...must..sleep...now...

 

[ZhiXin]

++ [ originally posted by John #10 ] ++


Read it again...i did not say get the **** outa here...read the posts again.

Or i will have to quote myself.

John ur still fighting? Calm down man

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Juve_Kosova ] ++


mutu better then cassano.. what a joke!

In reality, what has Cassano done this past season that surpasses Mutu? Just playing matches? Because that's all I see right now. The fact of the matter is we do not know which player will turn out better for Juventus because if the Romanian regains his 2002 form he will be one of the best players in Serie A while Cassano under Capello could work magic as well. We just do not know what player would be the better option because Mutu was free and does not cost us much while Cassano would cost a lot to obtain. Why don't we just wait for a year to see what Mutu can provide instead of dishing him out to Roma along with loads of money for Cassano? Just doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[ZhiXin]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


In reality, what has Cassano done this past season that surpasses Mutu? Just playing matches? Because that's all I see right now. The fact of the matter is we do not know which player will turn out better for Juventus because if the Romanian regains his 2002 form he will be one of the best players in Serie A while Cassano under Capello could work magic as well. We just do not know what player would be the better option because Mutu was free and does not cost us much while Cassano would cost a lot to obtain. Why don't we just wait for a year to see what Mutu can provide instead of dishing him out to Roma along with loads of money for Cassano? Just doesn't make much sense to me.

And we can snap Cassano up for free if u want to.
I'm sure everybody will celebrate this move.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Eaglesnake_1 ] ++


Andy, i dont dislike Mutu, on the contrary, i think is a fantastic player.
But im also understand the way Moggi sees the potential of the Cassano deal and what it represents :

Bringing to Juve the most creative young italian player, who probably will have a strong future in the NT...

The very high transfer fee we can obtain in two or three years for his card.

Having two different young candidates (zlatan, cassano) will double our chances to find someone to take Dp role as our leader in front. Mutu, as good as he is, is a already at his best. Those other two chaps have lots of room still to develop...

Moggi is planning this move very carefully. Thats why he brings Balzaretti in...

I completely understand what Moggi MIGHT be thinking, and it's clear something is going to happen within the next few days. It would make a lot of sense to buy Cassano now, reuinte him with Capello and turn him into the next Del Piero at Juventus, or at least try. I fully understand what you lot are thinking, however, I just disagree with the idea from an economical standpoint. We received Mutu on a free and has performed very well this summer for us and for his National team....I just think that is enough to give him a chance at Juve to see what he's capable of. And if he regains his form and becomes just as good of a player as Cassano, we will be kicking ourselves after we buy the Bari kid. Think of this Cassano deal as something that could turn out redundant.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by Moggi D'Messiah ] ++
the fools in the forum are the ones who are anti Cassano! If your suggesting that i am john then you oughta get a sense of humour next time you log in.

Are you not with it here? Nobody is calling you a fool because you adore Cassano, quite the contrary. People are calling you a fool because you can't express your opinion without offending other posters and without using foul language. What is your problem with people not wanting Cassano because they would like to see what Mutu can produce? Get a grip kid.

Sheesh, some people are just not fit for forum discussion.

 

[swag]

I'd like to see Mutu prove what he could do for us. But he's still a risky proposition. Even before he was implicated in all the drugs, he wasn't exactly wowing over at Chelsea. Even if I think Mourinho gave him a sort of raw deal as the new king in town who didn't ask for him on his squad.

But because he is a risk, other teams will see Mutu as a risk if traded to them -- certainly hampering our ability to get a great deal for him.

So I am not really opinionated either way on this one. I think Cassano could improve a lot under Capello, but Juve is much bigger than Capello. Mutu has proven himself to be a great player once, but that was two trades and a "conviction" ago.

 

[Eddy]

If they want to get the next DP in to Juve, it's not Cassano that's for sure.
What about Rej Volpato ? Is he any good?
or has anyone heard of Eder Bau..he's playing with Triestina and is doing fantastic but what i'm trying to say is..is there anyone who's a forward and is young that can take DP's place like the lethal finisher he once was? The only person who I believe that is up to it is Pazzini, I believe if he joins Juve, he will turn things around and make it for the best of them.

 

[Bjerknes]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++
I'd like to see Mutu prove what he could do for us. But he's still a risky proposition. Even before he was implicated in all the drugs, he wasn't exactly wowing over at Chelsea. Even if I think Mourinho gave him a sort of raw deal as the new king in town who didn't ask for him on his squad.

I'm not sure how you could use Mutu's bad spell at Chelsea against him when only a year earlier he was one of the best players in Serie A. That is not exactly fair to be honest.

 

[Esteban]

I don't know if this has been said earlier... but, why do you think Moggi took back Chiellini and Miccoli after they talked bad about Juventus?

... someone.:cheesy:


Let's hope my predictions are right. I don't wanna lose Mutu.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

when did Chiellini talk bad about juve ?

 

[Bjerknes]

It would make much more sense to hand over Miccoli instead of Mutu. I really cannot see the deal go any other way...

 

[Esteban]

He said he wanted to stay in Florens.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

probably just to get some playing time before he is ready to break to juve's starting eleven

 

[Esteban]

Gah, I'm almost sure I saw an article somewhere where Chiellini bad mouthed us in a Miccolish way. Not worth much if I don't find the source though.

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
It would make much more sense to hand over Miccoli instead of Mutu. I really cannot see the deal go any other way...

We've got Miccoli who doesnt want to play for us.
Zalayeta who wants playing time elsewhere.
Del Piero who cant play at the level we expect him to.


And yet, we're looking at trading Mutu, who is the best of that lot. Especially considering Chiellini is already part of the deal. It just doesnt make sense from a logical or talent standpoint, because Cassano and Mutu to me would co-exist just as good, if not better and more importantly, for a longer period of time than Cassano - Del Piero.

 

[baggio]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I'm not sure how you could use Mutu's bad spell at Chelsea against him when only a year earlier he was one of the best players in Serie A. That is not exactly fair to be honest.

There is no doubt in my mind that Mutu will be the player he once was. He's rejuvenated and ready to go, to prove himself once again. That hunger alone is good enough, given his talent. Clearly, he deserves a chance, but its like I said, only Capello holds the blame for this one because Moggi has always been a fan of Adrian.

 

[Desmond]

++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


I completely understand what Moggi MIGHT be thinking, and it's clear something is going to happen within the next few days. It would make a lot of sense to buy Cassano now, reuinte him with Capello and turn him into the next Del Piero at Juventus, or at least try. I fully understand what you lot are thinking, however, I just disagree with the idea from an economical standpoint. We received Mutu on a free and has performed very well this summer for us and for his National team....I just think that is enough to give him a chance at Juve to see what he's capable of. And if he regains his form and becomes just as good of a player as Cassano, we will be kicking ourselves after we buy the Bari kid. Think of this Cassano deal as something that could turn out redundant.