The Neverending Story-Cassano to Juve (26 Viewers)

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baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Roma would be silly to accept such an offer. Cassano is worth a lot more than 16m and Mutu on loan.

It does seem as if Antonio is going to be wearing black and white next season though and if that is indeed the case I don't see both Del Piero and Trezeguet staying. This season will definitely decide whether DP goes to Germany 2006 or not so he's going to want to play regularly, something he may not be able to do with Cassano and Ibrahimovic in the team. Trezeguet isn't going to be satisfied with a place on the bench either...
Stu, i think your making it sound a little more drastic than it will actually be. Both Dp and Trez dont have to leave. Especially considering we dont have a go to guy on the team, than Trez, so his role is clearly defined, and i see him stay. Del Piero will be replaced by Cassano, which means it will be Dp who leaves. A three man attack is in the offing, and that is quite an exciting prospect.

Zlatan Trezeguet
Cassano
 

dossis1986

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May 9, 2005
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Imo Cassano will take Nedved place(Cassano,Trezege,Zlatan) or Nedved should change his position and play as center midifelder but i don't think Capello will play with Nedved,Cassano,Tezege and Zlatan together.I would prefer the first one cause imo Nedved passed his best.

Camoranesi,Emerson,Mozart(i heard that he is very good and creative)
Cassano
Zlatan,Trezege

With these guys in attack Juve will change her style and she will play a more creative football.A great and young team!!!
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++


He doesn't neccesarly have to sit on the bench if Capello does what I think he might: play a 4-3-3. I have this vision that Cassano will be deployed on the left flank by Capello, or perhaps supporting Zlatan and Trezeguet. In 1995 Capello fielded a team featuring Baggio, Weah, and Savicevic up top in a 4-3-3 system. Behind those three he fielded two defensive middies in Albertini and Desailly with Boban on the right flank. I have this feeling Capello will use these same tactics with the arsenal of attackers we will have, so Trezeguet might not be sitting on the bench.
It's interesting that you brought this up because I was having a look at some of Capello's past teams and he has indeed used trident attacks in the past. IMO both Del Piero and Cassano are better in slightly withdrawn roles and Capello has said that he wants Zlatan closer to the box so we could play Cassano and Del Piero supporting Ibrahimovic or what you suggested but where does that leave Nedved? It's fairly obvious that if Capello plays three upfront he'll field two defensive midfielders so unless he goes with a back three only one more midfield place will be available and that'd have to go to Camoranesi.

This would be one hell of a team:

Buffon
Bonera? Thuram Cannavaro Zambrotta
Camoranesi Emerson Essien
Del Piero/Ibrahimovic Cassano
Ibrahimovic/Trezeguet

Zambrotta, Del Piero and Cassano could all provide width on the left hand side if needed.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++

Stu, i think your making it sound a little more drastic than it will actually be. Both Dp and Trez dont have to leave. Especially considering we dont have a go to guy on the team, than Trez, so his role is clearly defined, and i see him stay. Del Piero will be replaced by Cassano, which means it will be Dp who leaves. A three man attack is in the offing, and that is quite an exciting prospect.

Zlatan Trezeguet
Cassano
Re-read my post. I never said that both Del Piero and Trezeguet would leave, my exact words were "if that is indeed the case I don't see both Del Piero and Trezeguet staying". I said that either DP or Trez would depart, not both of them.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
5,517
is it just me, or does Moggi rarely go for the hyped up transfers that everyone is expecting (ie Cassano)? I can just see the headlines:
"Mutu, 50 million for Totti in Roma-Juve swap"
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by HWIENIAWSKI ] ++
where the hell did essien come from :puzzled: and yeah, that's a CL winning side :thumb: very attacking too.........
I just threw Essien's name into the mix at random, I don't necessarily think we'll get him.
 

Stu

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Jul 14, 2002
17,557
++ [ originally posted by dossis1986 ] ++
imo Trezege is better than Del Piero and Zlatan too so i think he should be the first one in the trio that Capello prepares.
If you want a natural goalscorer then Trezeguet's your man but IMHO Ibrahimovic and Del Piero have more to offer. They can't touch Trez when it comes to finishing but personally I like players who can do more than just score. Trezeguet poses very little threat outside the area which is certainly a negative, but with two of Cassano, Zlatan and DP supporting him he could be exceedingly useful.
 

Henry

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Sep 30, 2003
5,517
I agree with Stuart on that. Zlatan's finishing should improve next season, and he can definitely do more than Trez overall, and that is very important. for those of you that did see someof Juve's matches at the end of the season, was DP as improved as I've read?
 

dossis1986

Junior Member
May 9, 2005
210
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


If you want a natural goalscorer then Trezeguet's your man but IMHO Ibrahimovic and Del Piero have more to offer. They can't touch Trez when it comes to finishing but personally I like players who can do more than just score. Trezeguet poses very little threat outside the area which is certainly a negative, but with two of Cassano, Zlatan and DP supporting him he could be exceedingly useful.
imo every team should have a goalscorer and around him as you say could be Cassano and Zlatan.I want to say that the (Trezege,Cassano,Zlatan)trio will be more productive than the (Del p.,Zlatan,Cassano)one.
 

serfaraaz

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2005
1,912
When it comes to Antonio Cassano, you have to take the good with the bad. On the one hand you have a supreme footballing ability. On the other an immaturity that struggles to deal with that very fact. No wonder it sometimes gets ugly. "Players like him are born only once every 30 years," remarked Eugenio Fascetti after the youngster left Bari for Roma in 2001. "But the boy needs guidance, otherwise you run the risk of losing out on his talent." He wasn’t wrong.

The 21-year-old has had his problems since he left his hometown club. He’s infuriated teammates, been frozen out of the Under-21 international squad and been fined by his club after a number of misunderstandings with Coach Fabio Capello. Yet there are signs he is slowly getting his head right.

Born the day after Italy won the 1982 World Cup, the streets of Bari Vecchia - a poor suburb in the port city - was where Cassano developed his unique skills. It didn’t take long for the big clubs to come knocking on his mother’s door. Parma made contact, while Inter were ready to offer him a deal after he excelled at a trial in Milan. However, mamma Giovanna - who was looking after her child single-handedly - wasn’t convinced a move North was the best option for her son. Bari eventually benefited.

It was only a matter of time until Fascetti would be convinced of Cassano’s balance and guile. He made his debut as a 17-year-old in a local derby against Lecce. He followed that up a week later with a wonder goal against, oddly enough, Inter. He controlled a through ball with his heel, nodded it down to his feet between two defenders to slot home the winner. He had played less than 180 minutes in Serie A and was already being linked with a £10m move to Juventus.

As the weeks past, the number of clubs associated with his services increased. So too did his price tag. Roma eventually won the auction when they made sure that Cassano, who had dreamed about playing alongside his idol Francesco Totti, was theirs for a cool £20m. He was still just 19. "Juventus only offered half of that," said Roma President Franco Sensi. "I wanted him, I paid for him and I got him. He cost me a sack load of money but he has been a solid investment. He and Totti are the future of Italy. If Totti is my adopted son then Cassano is my adopted grandson."

The Giallorossi patron made that statement in November 2003 after Cassano had just made his full international debut. But there must have been times over the past two years when Sensi seriously questioned his own judgement. Maybe Juve transfer chief Luciano Moggi was right? "Cassano is a real talent but £20m for a player of his age is excessive," he stated in 2001. "It’s too soon to understand exactly how much he is worth."

Fortunately Fabio Capello is moulding him into the player many predicted. The former Milan tactician decided that although Cassano was obviously a talent he wouldn’t be singled out for special care. The Coach treated him like a man, like any other member of his squad. It took time for the boy to understand.

He’d already had the Azzurrini doors slammed in his face after a number of disagreements with Coach Claudio Gentile. The former Juventus stopper didn’t like the effect that Cassano’s attitude was having on the rest of the squad so he decided to do without him. Cassano was then famously fined by his club for going AWOL. Having been told by Capello that he wouldn’t play against Perugia in the League, Cassano decided he would skip Saturday’s training session and take the weekend off. He turned off his mobile phone and left his agent to apologise for him.

At the beginning of this season people wondered why Cassano would make the headlines. Would it be for his explosive, attacking talents? Or the petulant bad boy behaviour which saw him dismissed in the Coppa Italia Final for insulting the referee? Fortunately, and entertainingly, it has been for awesome form rather than attitude.

Cassano is now a firm fixture in Capello’s plans, where he features alongside Francesco Totti and another striker selected from Vincenzo Montella or John Carew. He creates, he scores and his link-up with Totti is class personified. His maiden Italian call-up for the games against Poland and Romania were nothing more than his talent deserved. "Playing for Italy has always been my obsession and to be honest I saw that there were players being called up who weren’t as good as me," said the short in stature but not short in confidence striker. "This is the new Cassano and I’m looking to convince Giovanni Trapattoni to keep picking me."He marked his debut, wearing Totti’s No 10 shirt, with a splendid goal as he delicately chipped Jerzy Dudek in the 3-1 defeat in Warsaw. "He was destined to play for the Azzurri sooner or later," remarked Trap. "I was delighted with his performance. He did wonderfully well and showed some very intelligent touches. It was a positive test for him and he crowned it with a beautiful goal."

Yet within a week Cassano’s demons had returned. He assured himself a new fine after he stormed away from training following a clash with Capello. The reason? Because the tactician left him out of a practice game. "We all know every now and again he does these things," sighed the Coach. "We call them ‘Cassanate’, The fact he still needs to mature is something everyone is aware of. Most importantly himself."

If he can do that then 2004 could turn out to be a special year at club and international level for the former ‘Gioellino del Bari’ - Little Gem of Bari. Even informed people outside of Italy are predicting great things for him. "I know Cassano well from my time as South Africa boss," stated Real Madrid Coach Carlos Queiroz. "I used to go to Bari to watch Phil Masinga but I was always struck by this boy who dribbled past players as if they were skittles. He will be a star at Euro 2004 and the next World Cup."



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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++


Re-read my post. I never said that both Del Piero and Trezeguet would leave, my exact words were "if that is indeed the case I don't see both Del Piero and Trezeguet staying". I said that either DP or Trez would depart, not both of them.

I apologise. :)
 

serfaraaz

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2005
1,912
When it comes to Antonio Cassano, you have to take the good with the bad. On the one hand you have a supreme footballing ability. On the other an immaturity that struggles to deal with that very fact. No wonder it sometimes gets ugly. "Players like him are born only once every 30 years," remarked Eugenio Fascetti after the youngster left Bari for Roma in 2001. "But the boy needs guidance, otherwise you run the risk of losing out on his talent." He wasn’t wrong.

The 21-year-old has had his problems since he left his hometown club. He’s infuriated teammates, been frozen out of the Under-21 international squad and been fined by his club after a number of misunderstandings with Coach Fabio Capello. Yet there are signs he is slowly getting his head right.

Born the day after Italy won the 1982 World Cup, the streets of Bari Vecchia - a poor suburb in the port city - was where Cassano developed his unique skills. It didn’t take long for the big clubs to come knocking on his mother’s door. Parma made contact, while Inter were ready to offer him a deal after he excelled at a trial in Milan. However, mamma Giovanna - who was looking after her child single-handedly - wasn’t convinced a move North was the best option for her son. Bari eventually benefited.

It was only a matter of time until Fascetti would be convinced of Cassano’s balance and guile. He made his debut as a 17-year-old in a local derby against Lecce. He followed that up a week later with a wonder goal against, oddly enough, Inter. He controlled a through ball with his heel, nodded it down to his feet between two defenders to slot home the winner. He had played less than 180 minutes in Serie A and was already being linked with a £10m move to Juventus.

As the weeks past, the number of clubs associated with his services increased. So too did his price tag. Roma eventually won the auction when they made sure that Cassano, who had dreamed about playing alongside his idol Francesco Totti, was theirs for a cool £20m. He was still just 19. "Juventus only offered half of that," said Roma President Franco Sensi. "I wanted him, I paid for him and I got him. He cost me a sack load of money but he has been a solid investment. He and Totti are the future of Italy. If Totti is my adopted son then Cassano is my adopted grandson."

The Giallorossi patron made that statement in November 2003 after Cassano had just made his full international debut. But there must have been times over the past two years when Sensi seriously questioned his own judgement. Maybe Juve transfer chief Luciano Moggi was right? "Cassano is a real talent but £20m for a player of his age is excessive," he stated in 2001. "It’s too soon to understand exactly how much he is worth."

Fortunately Fabio Capello is moulding him into the player many predicted. The former Milan tactician decided that although Cassano was obviously a talent he wouldn’t be singled out for special care. The Coach treated him like a man, like any other member of his squad. It took time for the boy to understand.

He’d already had the Azzurrini doors slammed in his face after a number of disagreements with Coach Claudio Gentile. The former Juventus stopper didn’t like the effect that Cassano’s attitude was having on the rest of the squad so he decided to do without him. Cassano was then famously fined by his club for going AWOL. Having been told by Capello that he wouldn’t play against Perugia in the League, Cassano decided he would skip Saturday’s training session and take the weekend off. He turned off his mobile phone and left his agent to apologise for him.

At the beginning of this season people wondered why Cassano would make the headlines. Would it be for his explosive, attacking talents? Or the petulant bad boy behaviour which saw him dismissed in the Coppa Italia Final for insulting the referee? Fortunately, and entertainingly, it has been for awesome form rather than attitude.

Cassano is now a firm fixture in Capello’s plans, where he features alongside Francesco Totti and another striker selected from Vincenzo Montella or John Carew. He creates, he scores and his link-up with Totti is class personified. His maiden Italian call-up for the games against Poland and Romania were nothing more than his talent deserved. "Playing for Italy has always been my obsession and to be honest I saw that there were players being called up who weren’t as good as me," said the short in stature but not short in confidence striker. "This is the new Cassano and I’m looking to convince Giovanni Trapattoni to keep picking me."He marked his debut, wearing Totti’s No 10 shirt, with a splendid goal as he delicately chipped Jerzy Dudek in the 3-1 defeat in Warsaw. "He was destined to play for the Azzurri sooner or later," remarked Trap. "I was delighted with his performance. He did wonderfully well and showed some very intelligent touches. It was a positive test for him and he crowned it with a beautiful goal."

Yet within a week Cassano’s demons had returned. He assured himself a new fine after he stormed away from training following a clash with Capello. The reason? Because the tactician left him out of a practice game. "We all know every now and again he does these things," sighed the Coach. "We call them ‘Cassanate’, The fact he still needs to mature is something everyone is aware of. Most importantly himself."

If he can do that then 2004 could turn out to be a special year at club and international level for the former ‘Gioellino del Bari’ - Little Gem of Bari. Even informed people outside of Italy are predicting great things for him. "I know Cassano well from my time as South Africa boss," stated Real Madrid Coach Carlos Queiroz. "I used to go to Bari to watch Phil Masinga but I was always struck by this boy who dribbled past players as if they were skittles. He will be a star at Euro 2004 and the next World Cup."



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