The Clippers must be so disappointed with how Kawhi has turned out for them, physically at least.
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PG is one of several joke players of this generation
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Agree. SGA is already better than “Playoff P” and he’s only gonna get better. Clippers banked on win finally winning their first title with their two stars, but the only year they were healthy, they choked hardcore after going up 3-1 on the Nuggets, and those two shot like 20% from the field in that game 7 loss lol.
It’s kinda funny, because their management has found a way to surround those two with probably the deepest team in the NBA and if Kawhi could actually stay healthy they should be in the top 2-3 favourites each year for the title.
It’s kinda funny, because their management has found a way to surround those two with probably the deepest team in the NBA and if Kawhi could actually stay healthy they should be in the top 2-3 favourites each year for the title.
Probably has to do with the richest owner by far, and his willingness to go over the cap repeatedly without thinking about consequences. But also smart management ofcourse, they acquired some quality depth, which shows when their stars are out. Now they are left with excuses like not being healthy and "not wanting to be in the bubble" lol. Poor Kawhi, could have been part of a dynasty but chose "his team" and PG instead lol. Funny to watch
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They don't have depth though, fatigue might catch up if they have to keep 40+ minutes constantly
Jokic is a different animal. Gobert is an overrated turd who is almost useless on offense, while KAT is a nice guy who can shoot but a pussy.
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Part of a dynasty with Le GM and Street Clothes? Nah. He won with the Spurs and with The Raptors. He never needed LeBum to win. Seeing how the Fakers treated Westbrook, I wouldn't want to team up with LeBum either.
Not every player needs to join the Lakers or Celtics to win. Yes, they are both storied franchises, by far the most successful in the NBA, but this kind of entitlement is why I actively root against both teams. I used to actually like the Lakers (mostly because of Shaq and then Kobe), but the amount of Laker and LeBum coverage on NBATV and other networks and the level of throating that occurs in the media has made me dislike them to the level of a Chelshit or Red Cunts of Manc.
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Part of a dynasty with Le GM and Street Clothes? Nah. He won with the Spurs and with The Raptors. He never needed LeBum to win. Seeing how the Fakers treated Westbrook, I wouldn't want to team up with LeBum either.
Not every player needs to join the Lakers or Celtics to win. Yes, they are both storied franchises, by far the most successful in the NBA, but this kind of entitlement is why I actively root against both teams. I used to actually like the Lakers (mostly because of Shaq and then Kobe), but the amount of Laker and LeBum coverage on NBATV and other networks and the level of throating that occurs in the media has made me dislike them to the level of a Chelshit or Red Cunts of Manc.
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"Street Clothes", when PG is out for a while and Kawhi just missed 2 straight playoff games, funny.
He won one with the Spurs, with their big 3 who all won together before him already, so your own argument is weak there. In 2019, KD was out and Klay got hurt in the closing games of the series. With the clippers so far, he hasn't proven he can win. If he "doesn't need James" to win, what does he need? Why did he win only twice, (only) one on a all time great team and one when his opponent was decimated?
With the Lakers, they would have won atleast 2 together, maybe even more. So for the first time in his life, he'd have been part of a dynasty, or you disagree with that?
Westbrook was traded because he was not a good fit. The Lakers might have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row if he stayed. And why is trading a player treating him bad? The same Westbrook was traded in 2019, 2020, 2021 already before that. Players are traded all the time, don't see your point here.
No one says "everyone needs to join the Lakers or Celtics to win". What I said is if Kawhi joined the Lakers in 2019, which he could have easily, he'd have been part of a dynasty (if they stayed healthy during the playoffs). Again do you disagree? If I say for example, "if the Warriors traded Poole and Green for Giannis, they would win another 3 rings", would you also reply with "not everyone needs to join the Warriors to win"?
He won one with the Spurs, with their big 3 who all won together before him already, so your own argument is weak there. In 2019, KD was out and Klay got hurt in the closing games of the series. With the clippers so far, he hasn't proven he can win. If he "doesn't need James" to win, what does he need? Why did he win only twice, (only) one on a all time great team and one when his opponent was decimated?
With the Lakers, they would have won atleast 2 together, maybe even more. So for the first time in his life, he'd have been part of a dynasty, or you disagree with that?
Westbrook was traded because he was not a good fit. The Lakers might have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row if he stayed. And why is trading a player treating him bad? The same Westbrook was traded in 2019, 2020, 2021 already before that. Players are traded all the time, don't see your point here.
No one says "everyone needs to join the Lakers or Celtics to win". What I said is if Kawhi joined the Lakers in 2019, which he could have easily, he'd have been part of a dynasty (if they stayed healthy during the playoffs). Again do you disagree? If I say for example, "if the Warriors traded Poole and Green for Giannis, they would win another 3 rings", would you also reply with "not everyone needs to join the Warriors to win"?
No arguments regarding Paul George - in fact, I think he should be renamed PJ13 (Pajamas George) instead of PG13, considering the amount of time he spends injured. Nonetheless, this does not negate the fact that AD is also frequently injured.
Is there any guarantee that Kawhi would have remained heathy had he joined the Lakers? Also, their bench would have lacked depth. They traded Westbrook for depth, and it seems to be working wonders for them. Still, fuck em and fuck LeBum. I hope they never win again until he retires. Westbrook wasn't a good fit indeed, but why did they trade for him in the first place? Also, they were always so quick to throw him under the bus and blame shit on him when things weren't going well there, so let's not pretend there wasn't a level of acrimony and resentment towards Westbrook in LA.
Anyway, I hope you guys get fucked, but I won't mind you winning a ring, the season right after LeBum retires/moves elsewhere - it would be so poetic.
Is there any guarantee that Kawhi would have remained heathy had he joined the Lakers? Also, their bench would have lacked depth. They traded Westbrook for depth, and it seems to be working wonders for them. Still, fuck em and fuck LeBum. I hope they never win again until he retires. Westbrook wasn't a good fit indeed, but why did they trade for him in the first place? Also, they were always so quick to throw him under the bus and blame shit on him when things weren't going well there, so let's not pretend there wasn't a level of acrimony and resentment towards Westbrook in LA.
Anyway, I hope you guys get fucked, but I won't mind you winning a ring, the season right after LeBum retires/moves elsewhere - it would be so poetic.
Frequently injured has degrees. The only year AD missed huge amount of time was last season. And 2021 he got hurt in the playoffs. Otherwise he misses games but far from the worst in the league to warrant such a ridiculous nickname
There is no guarantees but he would have to carry less and have more time to rest. I don't think they'd lack depth, they had Kuzma and Caruso, would have probably signed Rondo and Dwight on vet min deals, and had the mid exception to use on a shooter. Later that season they acquired Markieff Morris. They don't have Green, KCP, McGee but that's a good trade off if you ask me. Point is he would have been put in pole position to be THE team of the last 3 seasons
Who blamed things on Westbrook? Davis? James? The management? What dumbass media says matters little here, you can accuse fans of acting stupid towards him but fans are gonna be like that.
Why they traded for him? Well bad trades happen. Not sure why Russ, but the team was pretty good in 2021, went up 2-1 against PHX in the first round and was playing G4 at home. AD got hurt in that game and they lost, then they lost the next 2 with Schröder, Kuzma, Harrell etc playing pretty bad. They tried to preserve James and wanted another star ball handler, and I guess Westbrook was the logical choice after a great season (or only choice? Not sure who else was available). Problem was that now you had 3 40M+ guys and no money left for signings. Then they did double damage by going after finished players (check how many of last seasons roster aren't even in the league anymore). Blaming it on Westbrook is easy but that team just wasn't good enough with AD missing a lot of time, and this seasons team while better and younger, wasn't constructed well (100 guards and no wings) and still needed elite production from their top guys to even make the playoffs. Still not sure about this management, it's like they put up a new team randomly every season and it's either great or garbage, nothing in-between.
There is no guarantees but he would have to carry less and have more time to rest. I don't think they'd lack depth, they had Kuzma and Caruso, would have probably signed Rondo and Dwight on vet min deals, and had the mid exception to use on a shooter. Later that season they acquired Markieff Morris. They don't have Green, KCP, McGee but that's a good trade off if you ask me. Point is he would have been put in pole position to be THE team of the last 3 seasons
Who blamed things on Westbrook? Davis? James? The management? What dumbass media says matters little here, you can accuse fans of acting stupid towards him but fans are gonna be like that.
Why they traded for him? Well bad trades happen. Not sure why Russ, but the team was pretty good in 2021, went up 2-1 against PHX in the first round and was playing G4 at home. AD got hurt in that game and they lost, then they lost the next 2 with Schröder, Kuzma, Harrell etc playing pretty bad. They tried to preserve James and wanted another star ball handler, and I guess Westbrook was the logical choice after a great season (or only choice? Not sure who else was available). Problem was that now you had 3 40M+ guys and no money left for signings. Then they did double damage by going after finished players (check how many of last seasons roster aren't even in the league anymore). Blaming it on Westbrook is easy but that team just wasn't good enough with AD missing a lot of time, and this seasons team while better and younger, wasn't constructed well (100 guards and no wings) and still needed elite production from their top guys to even make the playoffs. Still not sure about this management, it's like they put up a new team randomly every season and it's either great or garbage, nothing in-between.