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[Post Ironic]

@MikeM

Just between the two of us, Man to Man. Do you get the feeling that we've been had? That the only reason why it took this long was that Kawhi was just waiting for the Clippers to acquire a 2nd star? This isn't NBA 2K. Trades like this take a lot of time.

I don't know, man. If neither one of us were really in the running, his camp should have let us know. Oh well.

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Quinn Cook just signed for the Lakers. I've liked that option ever since his rights were renounced

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Now get Marcus Morris and Avery Bradley and I'll be happy.



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I truly expect Marcus Morris to sign with the Lakers. He's a Klutch Spots client

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27131637/sources-fear-lakers-dynasty-drove-clips-deal

If Kawhi actually just dangled the carrot of signing for the Lakers, while waiting for the Clippers to get his co-star, yuck. Made us hold our cap space for him while always planning on signing somewhere else.

 

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[ALC]

Imagine picking PG over AD as your long term teammate. Kawhi is a fool

Imagine picking a well run team instead of a circus as your long term workplace.

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27131637/sources-fear-lakers-dynasty-drove-clips-deal

If Kawhi actually just dangled the carrot of signing for the Lakers, while waiting for the Clippers to get his co-star, yuck. Made us hold our cap space for him while always planning on signing somewhere else.

He either learned from Pop or Jerry West was giving him some pointers. Most likely he was legit undecided.

 

[KB824]

I'm just curious as to what started the chain of events that led to George being traded to the Clippers. If it was his agent that made the demands because they were told by the Clippers that if they get him, then Kawhi will join, isn't that a little odd?

Maybe I a m overthinking it, but how is that different than Rich Paul and AD telling the Pelicans that he wanted to go to the Lakers?

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I'm just curious as to what started the chain of events that led to George being traded to the Clippers. If it was his agent that made the demands because they were told by the Clippers that if they get him, then Kawhi will join, isn't that a little odd?

Maybe I a m overthinking it, but how is that different than Rich Paul and AD telling the Pelicans that he wanted to go to the Lakers?

Imagine picking a well run team instead of a circus as your long term workplace.

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He either learned from Pop or Jerry West was giving him some pointers. Most likely he was legit undecided.

According to that article, he told the Clippers that if they get Paul George, he is going to the Clippers. He was not undecided, he was just waiting for confirmation of the trade

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Before free agency started, the Clippers knew they needed a second star to lure Leonard, but had no idea whom he wanted. The Clippers inquired on deals for Washington's Bradley Beal and New Orleans' Jrue Holiday, but those guards weren't available in trades. Eventually, Leonard made his intentions known to the Clippers: Paul George.

 

[zizinho]

Imagine picking a well run team instead of a circus as your long term workplace.

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He either learned from Pop or Jerry West was giving him some pointers. Most likely he was legit undecided.

No one cares about how a team is run, players win you games and chips. Kawhi simply thought this supporting cast gives him a better shot at winning. If hes right in the end, kudos. If they dont win, this was a big failure on his part

 

[KB824]

And that is perfectly fine from that standpoint, but you can't string 2 other franchises along. Not so much for the Lakers, but the Raptors literally rehabilitated him last year, have just as much stability in the front office and coaching staff. At least have the decency to tell Toronto that they are not in play

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The part that really bothers me, in all honesty, is the fact that his camp asked the Lakers to delay the trade for AD. For what purpose? That could have had severe ramifications for us.

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No one cares about how a team is run, players win you games and chips. Kawhi simply thought this supporting cast gives him a better shot at winning. If hes right in the end, kudos. If they dont win, this was a big failure on his part

Of course they care. Don't do that. Stability in the Front office and ownership is paramount to a lot of these players

 

[zizinho]

We got Quinn Cook? Noice

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Kawhi knew from the start hed go to the Clippers. He let 2 other franchises waste their off season in the process and got himself the teammate he wished for. Dick move but well played.

Btw, how can the clippers give out 2022, 2023 and 2024 picks in a single trade? Yes, 2023 is protected and the other 2 not, but i thought you cant send out picks for consecutive years?

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And that is perfectly fine from that standpoint, but you can't string 2 other franchises along. Not so much for the Lakers, but the Raptors literally rehabilitated him last year, have just as much stability in the front office and coaching staff. At least have the decency to tell Toronto that they are not in play

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The part that really bothers me, in all honesty, is the fact that his camp asked the Lakers to delay the trade for AD. For what purpose? That could have had severe ramifications for us.

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Of course they care. Don't do that. Stability in the Front office and ownership is paramount to a lot of these players

They care to some degree but thats far from a deciding factor. Id take James and Davis as teammates even if it meant dealing with some doofuses, over a stabile FO that cant get me even one such teammate

 

[KB824]

We got Quinn Cook? Noice

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Kawhi knew from the start hed go to the Clippers. He let 2 other franchises waste their off season in the process and got himself the teammate he wished for. Dick move but well played.

Btw, how can the clippers give out 2022, 2023 and 2024 picks in a single trade? Yes, 2023 is protected and the other 2 not, but i thought you cant send out picks for consecutive years?

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They care to some degree but thats far from a deciding factor. Id take James and Davis as teammates even if it meant dealing with some doofuses, over a stabile FO that cant get me even one such teammate

Although the Clippers did, didn't they.

 

[ALC]

No one cares about how a team is run, players win you games and chips. Kawhi simply thought this supporting cast gives him a better shot at winning. If hes right in the end, kudos. If they dont win, this was a big failure on his part

Players definitely care. Especially a guy like Kawhi who came through the Spurs. He can win anywhere, why deal with the bullshit and drama that comes from the Lakers?

A big failure on his part? Lol I don’t know how it’s a failure, he’s going to a team that made the playoffs and is getting the max, as well as bringing another top player with him. Looks like he made out alright.

 

[KB824]

This is the roster right now

Lebron
AD
Kuzma
Green
Cook
Daniels
KCP
McGee
Dudley

It's getting there. If they add Morris and Avery Bradley, I will feel a lot better about this roster than I did 24 hours ago.

 

[ALC]

And that is perfectly fine from that standpoint, but you can't string 2 other franchises along. Not so much for the Lakers, but the Raptors literally rehabilitated him last year, have just as much stability in the front office and coaching staff. At least have the decency to tell Toronto that they are not in play

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The part that really bothers me, in all honesty, is the fact that his camp asked the Lakers to delay the trade for AD. For what purpose? That could have had severe ramifications for us.

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Of course they care. Don't do that. Stability in the Front office and ownership is paramount to a lot of these players

I don’t know what to believe right now. There were so mny sources saying Kawhi to the Lakers or the Raptors and they were all wrong. How possible is it these journalists are just making shit up on the fly?

If they really made the Lakers wait, I think it’s because Kawhi was still undecided and him going to the Clippers was fully dependent on the PG3 trade.

 

[KB824]

Players definitely care. Especially a guy like Kawhi who came through the Spurs. He can win anywhere, why deal with the bullshit and drama that comes from the Lakers?

A big failure on his part? Lol I don’t know how it’s a failure, he’s going to a team that made the playoffs and is getting the max, as well as bringing another top player with him. Looks like he made out alright.

I think our buddy is thinking with his heart right now instead of his head.

I would take the CLippers front office over ours every day of the week, and twice on Sunday and Jewish Holidays. But it's not like the Lakers are devoid of talent either. They are starting to fill their roster out pretty nicely. They are getting shooters, which they desperately needed last year

 

[ALC]

I think our buddy is thinking with his heart right now instead of his head.

I would take the CLippers front office over ours every day of the week, and twice on Sunday and Jewish Holidays. But it's not like the Lakers are devoid of talent either. They are starting to fill their roster out pretty nicely. They are getting shooters, which they desperately needed last year

Yep, they’re finally free to get some other names. Danny Green was a great pickup, I was hoping we’d get him.

Is Cousins still an option for the Lakers?

 

[KB824]

Yep, they’re finally free to get some other names. Danny Green was a great pickup, I was hoping we’d get him.

Is Cousins still an option for the Lakers?

He is still an option financially, but whether or not the Lakers want him is another matter.

 

[Post Ironic]

We got Quinn Cook? Noice

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Kawhi knew from the start hed go to the Clippers. He let 2 other franchises waste their off season in the process and got himself the teammate he wished for. Dick move but well played.

Btw, how can the clippers give out 2022, 2023 and 2024 picks in a single trade? Yes, 2023 is protected and the other 2 not, but i thought you cant send out picks for consecutive years?

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They care to some degree but thats far from a deciding factor. Id take James and Davis as teammates even if it meant dealing with some doofuses, over a stabile FO that cant get me even one such teammate

It’s because they acquired a bunch of first round picks in trades. I’m pretty sure the unprotected 2021 Heat first round pick conveys in this trade.

There are also pick swap options in 2023 and 2025, so perhaps the protected 2023 pick is another from some other team. I don’t know.

 

[KB824]

Guys, things could be a lot worse. We could be the Celtics right now, with all those draft picks taht turned into basically nothing, a Dollar Store version of Kyrie, and Enes Kanter replacing Al Horford, who happened to go to the Sixers

 

[Post Ironic]

Guys, things could be a lot worse. We could be the Celtics right now, with all those draft picks taht turned into basically nothing, a Dollar Store version of Kyrie, and Enes Kanter replacing Al Horford, who happened to go to the Sixers

I'm not really upset at all... I wasn't expecting Kawhi, and the only one of the plausible max free agents I would have prioritized over splitting up the cap space is Kyrie Irving, which could have backfired spectacularly due to his combustible personality.

I'm only disappointed that we got strung along for so long, seemingly to allow the Clippers time to make a deal for a star to pair with Kawhi. Made us miss out on a couple of players I would have liked to go after in the second tier range. Seth Curry would have been nice, alongside Danny Green.

Big lol at Paul George though. Pledging his loyalty to Russ and the Thunder just a couple months ago, and then demanding a trade out.

 

[KB824]

I'm not really upset at all... I wasn't expecting Kawhi, and the only one of the plausible max free agents I would have prioritized over splitting up the cap space is Kyrie Irving, which could have backfired spectacularly due to his combustible personality.

I'm only disappointed that we got strung along for so long, seemingly to allow the Clippers time to make a deal for a star to pair with Kawhi. Made us miss out on a couple of players I would have liked to go after in the second tier range. Seth Curry would have been nice, alongside Danny Green.

Big lol at Paul George though. Pledging his loyalty to Russ and the Thunder just a couple months ago, and then demanding a trade out.

And forcing a trade based on the premise that he would pair up with Kawhi. I'm still; trying to wrap my head around this as to why this is OK. Maybe it is something really simple that I am missing, but when you connect the dots,something doesn't seem right.

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After the Clippers met with Leonard for approximately three hours at head coach Doc Rivers’ house in Malibu on Monday night, both sides went to work to make that happen. At the same time he was meeting with the Los Angeles Lakers and Toronto Raptors this week, Leonard was meeting, calling and texting with George, trying to convince him to find a way out of Oklahoma City.

https://uproxx.com/dimemag/kawhi-leonard-recruit-paul-george-meeting-lakers-raptors-details/

 

[ALC]

PG, another star who wanted to go to the Lakers and balked out once Lebron got there. Honestly, I’m almost certain other stars don’t like being in a team with Bron, he ends up getting all the credit and seems to run the team. AD has a crush on him, that’s why he went there.

 

[Osman]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27131637/sources-fear-lakers-dynasty-drove-clips-deal

If Kawhi actually just dangled the carrot of signing for the Lakers, while waiting for the Clippers to get his co-star, yuck. Made us hold our cap space for him while always planning on signing somewhere else.

He didnt force you to wait, was your own doing.

He gave all 3 options consideration, he wanted Los Angeles badly, and if PG didn't happen he would prolly gone for Raptors. Dont think he could saddle himself being part of a Lebron show team plus a dysfunctional Front office, no matter how much he wanted LA.


He was prolly legit undecided, because Clippers didn't have enough talent to make him commit. Until they found a way.


Nothing sinister.

 

[KB824]

He didnt force you to wait, was your own doing.

He gave all 3 options consideration, he wanted Los Angeles badly, and if PG didn't happen he would prolly gone for Raptors. Dont think he could saddle himself being part of a Lebron show team plus a dysfunctional Front office, no matter how much he wanted LA.


He was prolly legit undecided, because Clippers didn't have enough talent to make him commit. Until they found a way.


Nothing sinister.

If your theory is correct, then maybe he should have told the Lakers he wasn't going to sign?

I mean, the stuff that you are saying here is not something that just came up during the free agency process. ANd if what uproxx reporte dis true, that while he was having meetings with the Lakers and Raptors, he was meeting and recruiting George to find a way to get out of OKC.