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Wouldnt it be hilarious if somehow he still didnt go to Lakers next summer?
Wouldnt it be hilarious if somehow he still didnt go to Lakers next summer?
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The only picks that Boston has that were likely in play here were the non-lottery picks, which Indy obviously refused, for whatever reason.
Considering that PG was a likely just a 1 yr rental, Boston would have been stupid to waste their best assets on him as those are assets they will need to potentially bring in a real star e.g. A. Davis.
If they blew their best picks on a rental like PG, they'd have nothing of worth left to offer for a potential block-buster trade down the road.
In the end of the day, the Cs can't afford to spend on a donkey, the money they have saved for a thoroughbred. If they did that, later on no one will sell them a thoroughbred for donkey money as that would be the only money they'd have left.
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I can see the "out of conference" argument but it feels like a stretch to me. Indy is basically pressing the restart button here and the best thing they could do in that case is get as many 1st round picks as possible. Loading up on below average starters is only gonna delay the rebuild, keeping them out of the playoffs but also probably out of the top lottery picks too, stuck in perpetual (sub)mediocrity.
Sometimes, you can't argue with a certain type of stupid.
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OKC is not the type of team that could persuade PG to forgo the Lakers, they are just a stop-gap.
Much more likely would be if now Westbrook develops chemistry with PG and follows him to the Lakers. Then OKC would have shot themselves in the foot.
Considering that PG was a likely just a 1 yr rental, Boston would have been stupid to waste their best assets on him as those are assets they will need to potentially bring in a real star e.g. A. Davis.
If they blew their best picks on a rental like PG, they'd have nothing of worth left to offer for a potential block-buster trade down the road.
In the end of the day, the Cs can't afford to spend on a donkey, the money they have saved for a thoroughbred. If they did that, later on no one will sell them a thoroughbred for donkey money as that would be the only money they'd have left.
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I can see the "out of conference" argument but it feels like a stretch to me. Indy is basically pressing the restart button here and the best thing they could do in that case is get as many 1st round picks as possible. Loading up on below average starters is only gonna delay the rebuild, keeping them out of the playoffs but also probably out of the top lottery picks too, stuck in perpetual (sub)mediocrity.
Sometimes, you can't argue with a certain type of stupid.
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OKC is not the type of team that could persuade PG to forgo the Lakers, they are just a stop-gap.
Much more likely would be if now Westbrook develops chemistry with PG and follows him to the Lakers. Then OKC would have shot themselves in the foot.
And if the young team in question improves in win totals the way they have the past 2 seasons, then you are looking at a 35 win season with a bright young core.
Now, for the sake of arguing......
Add two LA boys like Russ and PG to the mix.
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I don't remember ever saying it was a foregone conclusion.
However. As a Lakers fan, PG going to the weigh station known as OKC was the best news any Lakers fan that wants him could have hoped for
Now, for the sake of arguing......
Add two LA boys like Russ and PG to the mix.
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I don't remember ever saying it was a foregone conclusion.
However. As a Lakers fan, PG going to the weigh station known as OKC was the best news any Lakers fan that wants him could have hoped for
And it's those picks Ainge tried to move for PG, at least according to the rumors (and it makes common sense too).
You can't make that trade if Indy says 'no' though and prefers garbage, instead, for whatever reason.
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There are two outcomes now for OKC after this coming season ends:
1) PG goes onto joining the Lakers, by himself or
2) PG takes Westbrook with him and they both join the Lakers
there is no 3rd option
You can't make that trade if Indy says 'no' though and prefers garbage, instead, for whatever reason.
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There are two outcomes now for OKC after this coming season ends:
1) PG goes onto joining the Lakers, by himself or
2) PG takes Westbrook with him and they both join the Lakers
there is no 3rd option
It would be insanely exciting to see Westbrook in Lakers, defenitely stand the fuck up moment for that franchise. But how likely is it? I know that's his home, but many can be from there, but how often do you end up there? Do we know how interested he is?
Not that it should fucking matter since he hasnt even played single game for Lakers yet, but what would getting Russ mean for hype machine that is Lonzo?
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Not that it should fucking matter since he hasnt even played single game for Lakers yet, but what would getting Russ mean for hype machine that is Lonzo?
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So Rubio traded to Jazz for 2018 1st round pick? Originally OKCs I think its supposed to be.
I actually like Rubio and thought he got undeserved shit, but its also a relief to finally move on from him since it wasnt going anywhere (even if that barely gives us much? OKC draft pick for next year? Thats hardly gonna be top half pick). I saw around only 20-25 full games of Wolves past season (I'm bit of a casual fan lol, plus time zones horrible for games), and despite all the good defending and passing, it was infuriating to see all the clever plays get bogged down simply because no one bothers to close him down much and instead choice to close down other lanes, because they dont see him threatening enough of a shooter. I dont need PG to be a lethal scorer when we had 3 players who averaged around 20ppg past season, but you have to atleast be able to threaten on your own and more easier open up space for others indirectly. Tyus Jones was more useful at that off the bench, kid has sweet jumper, but Rubio excelled on plenty except what you need the most fundementally, even if the critique for him was IMO too exaggerated.
If you give away that salary and already got rid of likes of Jordan Hill/Petkovic, then it means we should have around 30ish mill? Thats decent sum to work with in free agency. Butler was talking about calling his allstar friends to come join him, I dont expect someone big, but defenitely type of excellent quality PG like Lowry if we are lucky, would be dope. Thats the best case scenario, I'm expecting someone more like Teague instead (everyone getting the fuck out from Pacers), he is very good atletic scorer, but aint no Lowry.
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They prolly should have had Hayward on pic too, seems like despite all those deep assets you missing out on the rare times of quality allstars making a move (Griffin injured too much tho and cant shoot much, but is a beast).
I actually like Rubio and thought he got undeserved shit, but its also a relief to finally move on from him since it wasnt going anywhere (even if that barely gives us much? OKC draft pick for next year? Thats hardly gonna be top half pick). I saw around only 20-25 full games of Wolves past season (I'm bit of a casual fan lol, plus time zones horrible for games), and despite all the good defending and passing, it was infuriating to see all the clever plays get bogged down simply because no one bothers to close him down much and instead choice to close down other lanes, because they dont see him threatening enough of a shooter. I dont need PG to be a lethal scorer when we had 3 players who averaged around 20ppg past season, but you have to atleast be able to threaten on your own and more easier open up space for others indirectly. Tyus Jones was more useful at that off the bench, kid has sweet jumper, but Rubio excelled on plenty except what you need the most fundementally, even if the critique for him was IMO too exaggerated.
If you give away that salary and already got rid of likes of Jordan Hill/Petkovic, then it means we should have around 30ish mill? Thats decent sum to work with in free agency. Butler was talking about calling his allstar friends to come join him, I dont expect someone big, but defenitely type of excellent quality PG like Lowry if we are lucky, would be dope. Thats the best case scenario, I'm expecting someone more like Teague instead (everyone getting the fuck out from Pacers), he is very good atletic scorer, but aint no Lowry.
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@acmilan
They prolly should have had Hayward on pic too, seems like despite all those deep assets you missing out on the rare times of quality allstars making a move (Griffin injured too much tho and cant shoot much, but is a beast).
So Rubio traded to Jazz for 2018 1st round pick? Originally OKCs I think its supposed to be.
I actually like Rubio and thought he got undeserved shit, but its also a relief to finally move on from him since it wasnt going anywhere (even if that barely gives us much? OKC draft pick for next year? Thats hardly gonna be top half pick). I saw around only 20-25 full games of Wolves past season (I'm bit of a casual fan lol, plus time zones horrible for games), and despite all the good defending and passing, it was infuriating to see all the clever plays get bogged down simply because no one bothers to close him down much and instead choice to close down other lanes, because they dont see him threatening enough of a shooter. I dont need PG to be a lethal scorer when we had 3 players who averaged around 20ppg past season, but you have to atleast be able to threaten on your own and more easier open up space for others indirectly. Tyus Jones was more useful at that off the bench, kid has sweet jumper, but Rubio excelled on plenty except what you need the most fundementally, even if the critique for him was IMO too exaggerated.
If you give away that salary and already got rid of likes of Jordan Hill/Petkovic, then it means we should have around 30ish mill? Thats decent sum to work with in free agency. Butler was talking about calling his allstar friends to come join him, I dont expect someone big, but defenitely type of excellent quality PG like Lowry if we are lucky, would be dope. Thats the best case scenario, I'm expecting someone more like Teague instead (everyone getting the fuck out from Pacers), he is very good atletic scorer, but aint no Lowry.
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@acmilan They prolly should have had Hayward on pic too, seems like despite all those deep assets you missing out on the rare times of quality allstars making a move (Griffin injured too much tho and cant shoot much, but is a beast).
I actually like Rubio and thought he got undeserved shit, but its also a relief to finally move on from him since it wasnt going anywhere (even if that barely gives us much? OKC draft pick for next year? Thats hardly gonna be top half pick). I saw around only 20-25 full games of Wolves past season (I'm bit of a casual fan lol, plus time zones horrible for games), and despite all the good defending and passing, it was infuriating to see all the clever plays get bogged down simply because no one bothers to close him down much and instead choice to close down other lanes, because they dont see him threatening enough of a shooter. I dont need PG to be a lethal scorer when we had 3 players who averaged around 20ppg past season, but you have to atleast be able to threaten on your own and more easier open up space for others indirectly. Tyus Jones was more useful at that off the bench, kid has sweet jumper, but Rubio excelled on plenty except what you need the most fundementally, even if the critique for him was IMO too exaggerated.
If you give away that salary and already got rid of likes of Jordan Hill/Petkovic, then it means we should have around 30ish mill? Thats decent sum to work with in free agency. Butler was talking about calling his allstar friends to come join him, I dont expect someone big, but defenitely type of excellent quality PG like Lowry if we are lucky, would be dope. Thats the best case scenario, I'm expecting someone more like Teague instead (everyone getting the fuck out from Pacers), he is very good atletic scorer, but aint no Lowry.
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@acmilan
They prolly should have had Hayward on pic too, seems like despite all those deep assets you missing out on the rare times of quality allstars making a move (Griffin injured too much tho and cant shoot much, but is a beast).
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Russell plays the 2 like he did in college. He would also get to play off the ball more, which in theory would increase his efficiency
Wait I'm bit slow on todays news, things move fucking quickly,
I would preferred Lowry as overall smart floor general/better shooter PG, but he would demanded alot more then Teague, with latter we can still afford to add other good players atleast. Teague would fit well prolly tho, very atheltic and drives to the basket with force, and quite good shooting procentage when open.
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Yeah I just found out (been at work, just glad enough to see Rubio traded abruptly to notice already signed replacement), not my ideal choice for sure, but not too bad, is very good and quite fit athlete. Giving him 4-5m more then Rubio is not ideal, would prefered around same price, but since waiving Petkovic and Jordan Hill, there's still quite good cap space to play with hopefully.
Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Dieng, Towns are VERY VERY good way to get started for sure. Western conference is too stacked (LOL Gobert twitted shit is too imbalanced now), but this is defenitely a playoff team now, 1. GSW. 2 Spurs 3. Rockets 4. OKC 5. Utah Jazz (if they keep Hayward), but 6th best defenitely should be this Wolves team now, too good of aquired pieces at short time for sure.
Defenitely want to improve on Dieng tho, a good stretch 4 would be nice.
But seriously
I would preferred Lowry as overall smart floor general/better shooter PG, but he would demanded alot more then Teague, with latter we can still afford to add other good players atleast. Teague would fit well prolly tho, very atheltic and drives to the basket with force, and quite good shooting procentage when open.
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Yeah I just found out (been at work, just glad enough to see Rubio traded abruptly to notice already signed replacement), not my ideal choice for sure, but not too bad, is very good and quite fit athlete. Giving him 4-5m more then Rubio is not ideal, would prefered around same price, but since waiving Petkovic and Jordan Hill, there's still quite good cap space to play with hopefully.
Teague, Butler, Wiggins, Dieng, Towns are VERY VERY good way to get started for sure. Western conference is too stacked (LOL Gobert twitted shit is too imbalanced now), but this is defenitely a playoff team now, 1. GSW. 2 Spurs 3. Rockets 4. OKC 5. Utah Jazz (if they keep Hayward), but 6th best defenitely should be this Wolves team now, too good of aquired pieces at short time for sure.
Defenitely want to improve on Dieng tho, a good stretch 4 would be nice.
But seriously
Even better chances if the shitty bench is improved with JJ redick as all the rumours saying now (plus other teams, but one of the main favs), having pure elite shooter with all those fast dynamic ballers would be very welcomed change. Pretty much saying they passed on Lowry because he isnt worth 14-15m better then Teague, who signing him means still a cap space play for JJ or other good bench pieces.
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@acmilan @Salvo @King of Kings @zizinho I dont know how that would make sense cap wise, heard we have around 18m, and if you free up around 7.4m more by releasing Aldrich, you'll have good 25m to give another star player. Tho Millsap is the kind that demands 30m+ like Lowry last I heard.
Even better chances if the shitty bench is improved with JJ redick as all the rumours saying now (plus other teams, but one of the main favs), having pure elite shooter with all those fast dynamic ballers would be very welcomed change. Pretty much saying they passed on Lowry because he isnt worth 14-15m better then Teague, who signing him means still a cap space play for JJ or other good bench pieces.
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@acmilan @Salvo @King of Kings @zizinho
I dont know how that would make sense cap wise, heard we have around 18m, and if you free up around 7.4m more by releasing Aldrich, you'll have good 25m to give another star player. Tho Millsap is the kind that demands 30m+ like Lowry last I heard.
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@acmilan @Salvo @King of Kings @zizinho I dont know how that would make sense cap wise, heard we have around 18m, and if you free up around 7.4m more by releasing Aldrich, you'll have good 25m to give another star player. Tho Millsap is the kind that demands 30m+ like Lowry last I heard.
Teague is a good pickup, considering you needed a PG and not many were available
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Washington?
But i dont like where this is going, with so many allstars going west. The east was bad before, gonna be even worse next season.
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Lakers waived Tarik Black, liked the guy and the energy he was bringing, wish him luck in the future.
I read yesterday that we met with Iguodala and Rondo agents, would welcome both on big one year deals
Thats true. If there werent any conferences, im not sure more than 2 East teams would make the playoffs. Fuck If LeBron leaves in 2018, 2019 finals will be the most boring since 2007.
Btw, PG going to OKC got me all hyped up for 2018/19! Dont even want to imagine this team with him and RW, once Lonzo and Ingram get going...
Btw, PG going to OKC got me all hyped up for 2018/19! Dont even want to imagine this team with him and RW, once Lonzo and Ingram get going...
It's not relevant to Wiggins or Town since this summer is only time they can use up all cap space now completely, so they can give the two super talents big deals on luxury tax, that the owner will be happy to pay on sheer ambition.
Now to convince Millsap to take less then max will be tricky, I guess they gonna say take little less to be a contender down the line. Or maybe even move Diengs 14m contract, who knows, it will be tricky.
Besides this big signing that would make for a sick starting 5, the team would badly need an elite 3 pt shooter since all the starters would just be alright shooters at best.
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Even better chances if the shitty bench is improved with JJ redick as all the rumours saying now (plus other teams, but one of the main favs), having pure elite shooter with all those fast dynamic ballers would be very welcomed change. Pretty much saying they passed on Lowry because he isnt worth 14-15m better then Teague, who signing him means still a cap space play for JJ or other good bench pieces.
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/sta...ums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1587506
@acmilan @Salvo @King of Kings @zizinho
I dont know how that would make sense cap wise, heard we have around 18m, and if you free up around 7.4m more by releasing Aldrich, you'll have good 25m to give another star player. Tho Millsap is the kind that demands 30m+ like Lowry last I heard.
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https://twitter.com/MikeAScotto/sta...ums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=1587506
@acmilan @Salvo @King of Kings @zizinho I dont know how that would make sense cap wise, heard we have around 18m, and if you free up around 7.4m more by releasing Aldrich, you'll have good 25m to give another star player. Tho Millsap is the kind that demands 30m+ like Lowry last I heard.