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Cheesio

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Not reliable at all...Hit and miss.

The only reliable reporter for the NBA is Woj.

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Sixers informed Simmons that they will be taking him with their first pick.
 

zizinho

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Her's very reliable.

And he's 30.

And he is looking for a max contract.

And he won't be worth that money
Im talking about this Stein guy, i dont follow NBA Trades and rumours that closely to know who to trust and not.

And lol at Horford wanting a max. We know you're good but get real bro

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Not reliable at all...Hit and miss.

The only reliable reporter for the NBA is Woj.

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Sixers informed Simmons that they will be taking him with their first pick.
Thanks

This is good news i guess. Draft Ingram and check the willingness if Lebron to come. If yes, get him 2 stars that he wants if not, try sign Whiteside. Dont give max contracts to anyone who isnt LBJ or KD
 

Post Ironic

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Horford :lol:

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Funny thing is, Stephen A Smith, even though he's a ridiculous blowhard, is quite reliable with news...

First guy to break Lebron and Bosh to Miami... And first guy to break the Lebron back to Cleveland story.

If he says there's something to the Lebron to Lakers rumours, there probably is. Doesn't mean that is what Lebron will end up doing, but it does mean there is probably some consideration there.
 

Cheesio

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No way Lebron goes to the Lakers...Rumours started because he enrolled his children in an LA school. More probable to see him play for the Clippers than the lakers ( His best friend is CP).
Why would he leave the east where he gets a free ride to the finals every year to play in the west where he wil have to face SA, OKC, GS, the clippers, the blazers in the PO.
 

Post Ironic

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Because LA is the biggest market in basketball and looking for a new superstar. Also has more cap space than any team in basketball, enough to add to Max-level players, a fantastic young core once you add this year's number 2 draft pick (all cap controlled for the remainder of Lebron's prime years)...

As I said, Lebron is a smart man, and now that he's won a title for Cleveland, I can very easily see him leaving this summer or next. What he has left now is the desire to win as many championships as possible. And even though Kyrie is great, and a fantastic 2nd best player to have, this Cavs team isn't built for continued success over the next few years, unless they can find a way to offload Kevin Love. For a max level player, he just does not contribute anywhere near enough to that team. There's also the question of how long Gilbert is willing to be that far into the luxury tax to support 3 max level players and the supporting cast required.

Lebron cares marketing himself, about titles, and about improving his legacy now. Challenging Jordan for the best of all-time. And he's going to put himself in the best possible position for that. The Lakers create championship teams, dynasties. They always have, always will, with brief rebuilds. Add that to the market they control, and Lebron will certainly consider them. As I said, doesn't mean he'll sign for them, but it does mean he'll listen.
 

KB824

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No way Lebron goes to the Lakers...Rumours started because he enrolled his children in an LA school. More probable to see him play for the Clippers than the lakers ( His best friend is CP).
Why would he leave the east where he gets a free ride to the finals every year to play in the west where he wil have to face SA, OKC, GS, the clippers, the blazers in the PO.
Add Lebron, Whiteside and someone else (Yes, they will have the cap space to do that), with the young core around them of Randle, Russell, Ingram and Clarkson, and that team is DAMN GOOD.


And winning the NBA title as a Miami Heat or Cleveland Cavalier is one thing.

Winning it as an L.A. Laker is something entirely different. He would OWN the city of Los Angeles. His star, if possible, would get even bigger.


C-Whiteside
SF- James
PF- Randle
SG- Clarkson
PG- Russell


Bench:

Williams
Nance
Ingram


and whomever else they can come up with.


As I said yesterday, I don't see it happening. But, with 64-66 million dollars in Cap Space, James would not be coming on his own. There would be at least another big piece coming with him. And with all that young talent on the team.


Put it this way. Even though I doubt it will take place, what the Lakers now have in place to entice free agents is a LOT better than what they have had the past 2 years.


But I do remember saying to you a couple of years ago that the Lakers were not going to be terrible forever. They have been building up for this year and next year
 

Cheesio

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1- Lebron will keep making money where ever he's playing, he'll sign a 1+1 deal with the cavs that will guarantee him the max money this year and when the new salary cap comes to play.
2-Kyrie is a fantastic player, better than anything the Lakers can offer him right now, he's just outplayed the 2 times mvp and always deliver in the PO.
3- Lebron would like to stay in the east, too much competition in the west. He gets to coast the whole regular season in the east and still get the 1 seed and he gets an easy way to the finals, something he can't do in the west.
4-If Lebron moves somewhere, it would be to play with CP3 and Melo like he said before and i don't see it being this year, maybe in 2018 when the deal he signs this year expires.
5-Love is still a valuable player, if decides to move they will get back value, i think he'll stay this year and they'll try to integrate him more in their offense.
 

Cheesio

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Add Lebron, Whiteside and someone else (Yes, they will have the cap space to do that), with the young core around them of Randle, Russell, Ingram and Clarkson, and that team is DAMN GOOD.


And winning the NBA title as a Miami Heat or Cleveland Cavalier is one thing.

Winning it as an L.A. Laker is something entirely different. He would OWN the city of Los Angeles. His star, if possible, would get even bigger.


C-Whiteside
SF- James
PF- Randle
SG- Clarkson
PG- Russell


Bench:

Williams
Nance
Ingram


and whomever else they can come up with.


As I said yesterday, I don't see it happening. But, with 64-66 million dollars in Cap Space, James would not be coming on his own. There would be at least another big piece coming with him. And with all that young talent on the team.


Put it this way. Even though I doubt it will take place, what the Lakers now have in place to entice free agents is a LOT better than what they have had the past 2 years.


But I do remember saying to you a couple of years ago that the Lakers were not going to be terrible forever. They have been building up for this year and next year
That team you posted Serge won't make it past the warriors/Spurs/OKC/Clippers.

If you think Lebron is ready to wait for guys like russel/clarkson/Randle to blossom you are mistaken
 

KB824

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1- Lebron will keep making money where ever he's playing, he'll sign a 1+1 deal with the cavs that will guarantee him the max money this year and when the new salary cap comes to play.
2-Kyrie is a fantastic player, better than anything the Lakers can offer him right now, he's just outplayed the 2 times mvp and always deliver in the PO.
3- Lebron would like to stay in the east, too much competition in the west. He gets to coast the whole regular season in the east and still get the 1 seed and he gets an easy way to the finals, something he can't do in the west.
4-If Lebron moves somewhere, it would be to play with CP3 and Melo like he said before and i don't see it being this year, maybe in 2018 when the deal he signs this year expires.
1- It's not about money, it's about true transcendence. Being the leader of the Lakers, and winning championships as a Laker allows that to happen
2- Kyrie is fantastic. Certainly better than anything that the Lakers have right now. But let's not forget that with the cap space available, the Lakers can easily offer a max contract to an additional player, and offer a 15-18 million dollar contract to a 3rd player. Something that the Cavaliers cannot do, and with that douche of an owner they have, he will absolutely not go into luxury tax territory to go over the cap. Also, aside from Irving, who do they have as far as younger players are concerned? Tristan Thompson is solid, but has no offense whatsoever.
3- You think that Lebron doesn't like a challenge? He lives for challenges. He's also fearless.
4- CP3 will be 33, and Melo 34 by then. Who is going to sign both of them and a 34 year old Lebron James? This is a young man's game

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Like I said, for the 50th time, I don't think it is going to happen.


But don't for a second, think that L.A. is not one of tghe most desirable destinations for a free agent for both quality of life, and now for basketball purposes as well.

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Anyway......................



Baby steps here. Let's just get Ingram with that #2 pick :touched:


Oh, I just HAVE to post another video of my boy :heart:

And this one is a great video. Very detailed.


I FUCKING LOVE THIS KID!!!!!!


Don't let me down, Mitch

 

Post Ironic

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Lebron doesn't give a shit about playing in the east vs playing in the "tougher" west.

Golden State had an insanely easy route to the finals last year. Cleveland did this year.

It's the exact same thing, as it is now. Except he'd have to beat the best of the west in a conference finals one round earlier. People massively exaggerate how much stronger the west is also. The West is massively top-loaded right now. The Clippers suck. So does Portland. Don't give me that garbage about them being top teams. It's GS, SA, OKC... And then a massive drop off. Toronto swept the Clippers, swept Portland, and went 1-1 with both SA and OKC this year. The 10th place team in the East would have made the playoffs in the west according to record. And the East has won 3 of the last 5 league titles.

And Lebron makes the Lakers team Sergio posted easily capable of beating any team in the west in a playoff series. Will he get to the finals every year in the west? No. But he will get there some years, and he'll win if he does.

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1- It's not about money, it's about true transcendence. Being the leader of the Lakers, and winning championships as a Laker allows that to happen
2- Kyrie is fantastic. Certainly better than anything that the Lakers have right now. But let's not forget that with the cap space available, the Lakers can easily offer a max contract to an additional player, and offer a 15-18 million dollar contract to a 3rd player. Something that the Cavaliers cannot do, and with that douche of an owner they have, he will absolutely not go into luxury tax territory to go over the cap. Also, aside from Irving, who do they have as far as younger players are concerned? Tristan Thompson is solid, but has no offense whatsoever.
3- You think that Lebron doesn't like a challenge? He lives for challenges. He's also fearless.
4- CP3 will be 33, and Melo 34 by then. Who is going to sign both of them and a 34 year old Lebron James? This is a young man's game

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Like I said, for the 50th time, I don't think it is going to happen.


But don't for a second, think that L.A. is not one of tghe most desirable destinations for a free agent for both quality of life, and now for basketball purposes as well.

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Anyway......................



Baby steps here. Let's just get Ingram with that #2 pick :touched:


Oh, I just HAVE to post another video of my boy :heart:

And this one is a great video. Very detailed.


I FUCKING LOVE THIS KID!!!!!!


Don't let me down, Mitch

Just wait until Mitch drafts Buddy Hield. :lol:
 

KB824

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Lebron doesn't give a shit about playing in the east vs playing in the "tougher" west.

Golden State had an insanely easy route to the finals last year. Cleveland did this year.

It's the exact same thing, as it is now. Except he'd have to beat the best of the west in a conference finals one round earlier. People massively exaggerate how much stronger the west is also. The West is massively top-loaded right now. The Clippers suck. So does Portland. Don't give me that garbage about them being top teams. It's GS, SA, OKC... And then a massive drop off. Toronto swept the Clippers, swept Portland, and went 1-1 with both SA and OKC this year. The 10th place team in the East would have made the playoffs in the west according to record. And the East has won 3 of the last 5 league titles.

And Lebron makes the Lakers team Sergio posted easily capable of beating any team in the west in a playoff series. Will he get to the finals every year in the west? No. But he will get there some years, and he'll win if he does.

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Just wait until Mitch drafts Buddy Hield. :lol:
I will lose my shit.

My rants on these sports threads are epic. NHL Free agency every year, for just about every season, is must watch television. Oh, and you should go back on this thread 5 years ago when the CP3 trade to Los Angeles got cockblocked :lol:
 

Cheesio

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Lebron doesn't give a shit about playing in the east vs playing in the "tougher" west.

Golden State had an insanely easy route to the finals last year. Cleveland did this year.

It's the exact same thing, as it is now. Except he'd have to beat the best of the west in a conference finals one round earlier. People massively exaggerate how much stronger the west is also. The West is massively top-loaded right now. The Clippers suck. So does Portland. Don't give me that garbage about them being top teams. It's GS, SA, OKC... And then a massive drop off. Toronto swept the Clippers, swept Portland, and went 1-1 with both SA and OKC this year. The 10th place team in the East would have made the playoffs in the west according to record. And the East has won 3 of the last 5 league titles.

And Lebron makes the Lakers team Sergio posted easily capable of beating any team in the west in a playoff series. Will he get to the finals every year in the west? No. But he will get there some years, and he'll win if he does.

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Just wait until Mitch drafts Buddy Hield. :lol:
Lol Lebron would've never made 7 finals in the west, the west is no longer as tough as it was but the east is still a cake walk compared to that.

So having to beat say the spurs and the warriors to make the final won't take a toll on you. Look how Banged up the warriors were after playing that series against OKC.

And lol at that team beating anyone in the west. Really, Golden state, OKC, Spurs would smoke that it won't be funny. Clippers are a good team if healthy, and don't give me regular season records because you know they don't mean shit.
 

Post Ironic

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I will lose my shit.

My rants on these sports threads are epic. NHL Free agency every year, for just about every season, is must watch television. Oh, and you should go back on this thread 5 years ago when the CP3 trade to Los Angeles got cockblocked :lol:
:lol:

The silly season in sports just has that tendency to get one all riled up.

Apparently Buddy is confident that he is exactly what Laker nation needs. He sees himself as the Kobe replacement.

Do you cheer for the Kings in hockey?

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Lol Lebron would've never made 7 finals in the west, the west is no longer as tough as it was but the east is still a cake walk compared to that.

So having to beat say the spurs and the warriors to make the final won't take a toll on you. Look how Banged up the warriors were after playing that series against OKC.

And lol at that team beating anyone in the west. Really, Golden state, OKC, Spurs would smoke that it won't be funny. Clippers are a good team if healthy, and don't give me regular season records because you know they don't mean shit.
Right... That team wouldn't beat everyone in the west each and every year, but it would certainly stand a chance. Especially seeing as it would have tons of cap space to create an absolutely fantastic bench and depth as well. Something that Lebron's big 3 style teams have always struggled with. It could easily be built into a Spurs/Golden State style team predicated more on team play with one superstar. Lebron gives any team in the league a chance at getting to the finals, east or west, just by his presence alone. Because he can lead a team in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, and his team can still be successful while he does that.

Don't give me this shit about the Warriors being banged up! :lol: Cleveland was missing 2 of its 3 best players last year in the finals, banged up from their road through the East. Miami... that team had playoff injury woes every single year, but 2011-12. Wade was a shadow in 13-14 and 14-15. Not to mention Bosh's injuries. The west may have better teams at the very top, but it has always been a run and gun, high-scoring, less physical conference for the last 5-6 years. The style of basketball played in the east is far more physical, and far more defense oriented, because of less talented teams. The style creates far more injuries, and abuses bodies far worse.

You act like it's cruise control in the east which is not the case at all, and has not been. People exaggerate this so damn much.
 

KB824

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:lol:

The silly season in sports just has that tendency to get one all riled up.

Apparently Buddy is confident that he is exactly what Laker nation needs. He sees himself as the Kobe replacement.

Do you cheer for the Kings in hockey?

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Right... That team wouldn't beat everyone in the west each and every year, but it would certainly stand a chance. Especially seeing as it would have tons of cap space to create an absolutely fantastic bench and depth as well. Something that Lebron's big 3 style teams have always struggled with. It could easily be built into a Spurs/Golden State style team predicated more on team play with one superstar. Lebron gives any team in the league a chance at getting to the finals, east or west, just by his presence alone. Because he can lead a team in points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, and his team can still be successful while he does that.

Don't give me this shit about the Warriors being banged up! :lol: Cleveland was missing 2 of its 3 best players last year in the finals, banged up from their road through the East. Miami... that team had playoff injury woes every single year, but 2011-12. Wade was a shadow in 13-14 and 14-15. Not to mention Bosh's injuries. The west may have better teams at the very top, but it has always been a run and gun, high-scoring, less physical conference for the last 5-6 years. The style of basketball played in the east is far more physical, and far more defense oriented, because of less talented teams. The style creates far more injuries, and abuses bodies far worse.

You act like it's cruise control in the east which is not the case at all, and has not been. People exaggerate this so damn much.
Didn't we have this conversation in the NHL thread? I'm a Habs fan.


And I'm glad that Buddy is confident that he can be the scorer that the Lakers need. So can Ingram, who has better all around skills and a much higher ceiling.


I disown this club if they do not draft Ingram
 

Post Ironic

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Didn't we have this conversation in the NHL thread? I'm a Habs fan.


And I'm glad that Buddy is confident that he can be the scorer that the Lakers need. So can Ingram, who has better all around skills and a much higher ceiling.


I disown this club if they do not draft Ingram
Yeah. I don't know why I forgot about that. You cheer for the right hockey team. :D
 

Post Ironic

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Lebron just confirmed to Cleveland.com that he is returning to defend his title :numnum:
:tup:

Sergio and I both said it's more likely he leaves after 2017 if he does leave. Cleveland will always be the favourite to retain him, but I do think he will be interested in the Lakers project. That's basically all I'm saying.

Anyways, it's cool if he stays. Good for him on sticking with the Cavs and the project he came back to build.
 

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