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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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they want Porzingis? :confused: saw him 1-2 times, kid has potential, great shooter (Latvia/Lithuania always have these) and runs the floor well. a bit thin for the NBA imo. would i take him? hell yes. would i take him ahead of Okafor/Towns? no way.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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they want Porzingis? :confused: saw him 1-2 times, kid has potential, great shooter (Latvia/Lithuania always have these) and runs the floor well. a bit thin for the NBA imo. would i take him? hell yes. would i take him ahead of Okafor/Towns? no way.
Not so much as they want him, but that he has shown enough in workouts for various teams that he is under consideration for both the Lakers and the 76ers.

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:tup: hopefully we get the right man.
There is only one right man at this point, and it is Okafor.


Towns appears to be the consensus #1 pick.
 

zizinho

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Not so much as they want him, but that he has shown enough in workouts for various teams that he is under consideration for both the Lakers and the 76ers.

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There is only one right man at this point, and it is Okafor.


Towns appears to be the consensus #1 pick.
didnt Towns say he only wants LA? what are the chances that we trade Okafor + someone for him immediately if Twolves take him?
 

KB824

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didnt Towns say he only wants LA? what are the chances that we trade Okafor + someone for him immediately if Twolves take him?
I don't think he said that. It would be great if he did :D


I don't think that the Lakers would give up significant assets just to move up from 2 to 1.

This isn't a Lebron/Darko Milicic scenario like in 2003 where there was a continental divide in terms of talent between #1 and the rest of the draft.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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So how does the draft work exactly? Can anyone throw their name into the hat? Is there some age restriction at play? And how do clubs decide whom to pick? How is it different from signing an arbitrary player in the middle of a season?
 

zizinho

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I don't think he said that. It would be great if he did :D


I don't think that the Lakers would give up significant assets just to move up from 2 to 1.

This isn't a Lebron/Darko Milicic scenario like in 2003 where there was a continental divide in terms of talent between #1 and the rest of the draft.
i think i read a while ago that he wants the Lakers when Timberwolves won the 1st pick or something like that. maybe i misunderstood :D

but Okafor is a great pick too. id certainly have nothing against if we pick him in few days
 

KB824

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So how does the draft work exactly? Can anyone throw their name into the hat? Is there some age restriction at play? And how do clubs decide whom to pick? How is it different from signing an arbitrary player in the middle of a season?
Let me try to explain this without confusing you or me in the process.

The draft is the primary way to which NBA clubs acquire new talent. Nearly every player that has ever played in the NBA has come in through the draft process.

Here is how the current rules apply. A player, in order to be draft eligible, has to be at least 1 year out of high school, whether that means playing one year of college basketball, or playing overseas on a professional club.

The order of the draft, and how it is determined is done two ways.

First, there is a draft lottery for the 14 clubs that did not make the playoffs. The order of selection for the lottery is determined by ping pong balls. Yes. Ping pong balls. The worse record you have, the more ping pong balls you have in order to get the top pick. There are opportunities for teams to move up at the expense of another club's projected draft slot. For instance, the Lakers had the 4th worst record this year, but moved up to #2 in the Lottery, and the knicks conversely moved back from #2 to #4. The draft order for the lottery is determined shortly in advance of the announcement of it. Secondly, Once the order has been determined (which is usually a month before the end of the playoffs) the rest of the draft order is based upon the won-loss record of the teams in the playoffs, with the exception of the final 2 picks in the draft, which are reserved for the runner up and eventual NBA champion.


Big difference in signing a player arbitrarily in the middle of a season, because those players are free agents who have no contractual obligation to a team. Chances of actually finding a really good player through this method in the middle of a season are slim, for if they were deemed good enough, they would have already latched on to a team to begin with. Stranger things have happened.

I attached a video of this year's draft lottery so that you can get a better idea of how it works.

Please be advised that at the time of this airing, when then #6 pick came around, I was sweating bullets (long story, having to do with the Steve Nash trade from a couple of years ago), and when the first of the top two picks were announced, I was screaming like an 8 year old at a One Direction concert.


 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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Let me try to explain this without confusing you or me in the process.

The draft is the primary way to which NBA clubs acquire new talent. Nearly every player that has ever played in the NBA has come in through the draft process.

Here is how the current rules apply. A player, in order to be draft eligible, has to be at least 1 year out of high school, whether that means playing one year of college basketball, or playing overseas on a professional club.

The order of the draft, and how it is determined is done two ways.

First, there is a draft lottery for the 14 clubs that did not make the playoffs. The order of selection for the lottery is determined by ping pong balls. Yes. Ping pong balls. The worse record you have, the more ping pong balls you have in order to get the top pick. There are opportunities for teams to move up at the expense of another club's projected draft slot. For instance, the Lakers had the 4th worst record this year, but moved up to #2 in the Lottery, and the knicks conversely moved back from #2 to #4. The draft order for the lottery is determined shortly in advance of the announcement of it. Secondly, Once the order has been determined (which is usually a month before the end of the playoffs) the rest of the draft order is based upon the won-loss record of the teams in the playoffs, with the exception of the final 2 picks in the draft, which are reserved for the runner up and eventual NBA champion.


Big difference in signing a player arbitrarily in the middle of a season, because those players are free agents who have no contractual obligation to a team. Chances of actually finding a really good player through this method in the middle of a season are slim, for if they were deemed good enough, they would have already latched on to a team to begin with. Stranger things have happened.

I attached a video of this year's draft lottery so that you can get a better idea of how it works.

Please be advised that at the time of this airing, when then #6 pick came around, I was sweating bullets (long story, having to do with the Steve Nash trade from a couple of years ago), and when the first of the top two picks were announced, I was screaming like an 8 year old at a One Direction concert.


Thanks :tup:

You said one year out of high school. What about all those college players then? Say there's a promising player now in the 2nd year of college. Why wouldn't some team just nab him in September long before he graduates from college and eventually enters the draft?
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Thanks :tup:

You said one year out of high school. What about all those college players then? Say there's a promising player now in the 2nd year of college. Why wouldn't some team just nab him in September long before he graduates from college and eventually enters the draft?
When I said that, I should have said that was the minimum requirement to be eligible for the draft. Certainly, players who have played 2, 3, or all 4 years of college ball are eligible.

The rules don't allow for NBA teams to sign players when they are still in college. The deadline to declare for the draft is a couple of months prior to the actual draft itself, and you must forfeit your college eligibility.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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@Salvo


This is the kid that I would like to see the Lakers get with the 27th pick if he is available.

I mentioned him a month ago

Justin Anderson SF Virginia

 

Salvo

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@Salvo


This is the kid that I would like to see the Lakers get with the 27th pick if he is available.

I mentioned him a month ago

Justin Anderson SF Virginia

He looks good. To be honest I don't know much about the draft outside the top 10. All these rumours of trading the pick, would be the worst thing we could do.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Oh, all this talk of Demarcus Cousins to the Lakers.

Please god no. I love Cousins, but this would effectively kill off any and all cap space for this year. It makes no sense at all. This move will actually set them back.

If they have to give up the #2 pick, Clarkson and Randle, that is 8 million of Cap space. Cousins alone has 17 million. The lakers don't have anyone else on the roster that they can send to Sacramento to make up the difference.

So, you will have Cousins, Bryant.............................................................................................................................................


exactly.


You keep the #2 pick at the 4.3 million cap hit, you still have Randle, Clarkson, and 24 million in cap space. Why the fuck would the Lakers even do this.


I swear, I'll stick my head in a beehive if they make this trade
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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Cousins is better than all of that tough, he's the best center in the NBA, you get him and you build around him. Randle is coming from a season ending injury, what are the chances you get someone as good as cousins in the Draft ? And getting DMC will also help lure some big FA next year.
 

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