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Worth the watch, fantastic elite iso guard, streaky, but works so damn well with Jokic in their two man game, telepathic. You could argue he is the best denver player this series, and thats nuts in a team with a genius like Jokic on it.
But this playoffs show its time to stop saying just bubble Jamal Murray, it should just be Jamal Murray from now on. He is legit 2nd star bucket getter, mini-jimmy butler in just raising his level in playoffs. Just naturally one of the most unstoppable scorers when he is in "the zone".
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I know plenty of Lakers fans/Bron stans, and despite it all we are witnessing this series, all the texts and calls with them basically have them going like this still lol:
And some of them are super casual (Lakers by far have the biggiest group of casual barely watch Bball fans here), and didnt know how much DLO sucks in playoff setting, been teasing me since the trade about Wolveslosing out on a baller. They couldnt believe me that I legit celebrated that he is gone and we arent risking to re-sign him in summer.
Now that they witnessing my previous agony themselves, I just tell them:
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Well we picked up DLo for Westbrook (who's better but also not a good fit here and was overpriced) and also got Vanderbilt (plus Beasley who's also a bum). So I'm not complaining. Now if they resign him, I hope they can trade him somewhere before the deadline. Maybe get a legit center or a 2 way wing
I think Murray has won over Osman 
For sure, he goes hot and cold alot (struggled more vs wolves), and is ineffiecient or one track minded at times, but 3 straight series he just been a flame thrower so far, and he has been insane for his 3rd playoff year. So its hard to say its just fluke, he litterally elevates his game when it matters. Has historical scoring runs in 4th quarters in do or die playoff games, like 4-5 games of scoring 20 pts or more in 4th quarters etc.
Game 2 he kills them in just the 4th, when he was needed the most. Game 3 he kills them for entire first half, does whatever he likes. Then 3rd quarter they put Schroeder on him full court that keeps him quiet/cant get ball as much. Then he just decides in final minutes of 4th quarter, with Jokic, to show Schroeder doesnt matter whatsoever, just gets whatever bucket he wants.
He is TORCHING his matchups in Lakers. Making DLO wish he wasnt on the court, and Vanderbilt who did good vs Curry, cant do anything on Murray at all. Schroeder cant legit defend better then he has done so far, good hustle defender, but this level of scoring, the defense you facing doesnt even matter.
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Celtics needs to put Hannibal Lecter muzzle on Grant Williams for game 3 lol
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They have to keep Brown, its foolish to lose him. Tatum is considered almost a superstar or MVP candidate and Brown is as good or at times better then him in playoffs.
Who cares of the depth of role players when you have young 1 2 punch this good. If his ego can handle it Brown needs to stay.
Horford big contract should be winding down, and they need to let Grant "why did I wake up Jimmy" Williams walk if he demands 20m a year in his next contract.
Who cares of the depth of role players when you have young 1 2 punch this good. If his ego can handle it Brown needs to stay.
Horford big contract should be winding down, and they need to let Grant "why did I wake up Jimmy" Williams walk if he demands 20m a year in his next contract.
Get rid of him for what? How is he trash? He isnt A1 one player, but he is a fantastic 2nd star, can do everything except playmake basically.
Only issue he has is mentally/attitude at times, he acts like he is bigger player then he is with the contract demands etc, but NBA players these days want to maximise their earnings, especially in the team that drafted them.
He is top allstar wing, who shown he can be all NBA team level, who defends and scores very well, in a league that is run by wings. If you draft and develop this level of star in most important position, you keep him. You dont lose him to free agency.
One thing to trade him for similar quality player,but to just to lose him? Thats foolish, then you truly live and die by only Tatum getting hot or not. Last seasons playoffs Brown was better then Tatum for most of the series and in finals. Tatum as the better player gets more attention by opponents by facing the best defenders each series, but Brown usually feasts and picks up the slack when Tatum is having off game. 1-2 punch iso scoring like that is needed. Role players cant do that.
Dont discount the importance of coaching, Miami's 2nd star isnt another player, its coach Spoelstra, he completely outcoaching Celtics, and did so with Bucks. In same vein, Joe Mazzulla is DEFENITELY out of his depth and have Celtics confused and running on fumes. They were gonna lose to Philly if the players themselves didnt have a meeting with him and told him he needs to start Big Rob and Al Horford lol
When they had Ime Udoka, they looked MUCH better as a team, despite the fact Tatum and Brown arent the type of stars that carries you to a title. They missing that next level step mentally and efficient go-to-move for their iso scoring game, they chuck too much when in crunch time. No reliable midrange or post moves, or smart drives etc, that extra skill level most superstars have to close off 4th quarters.
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Spo is top 5 all time coach, and currently best active one, and he is
When you already have mentally weak stars, you CANT have a coach this clueless and out of his depth.
Only issue he has is mentally/attitude at times, he acts like he is bigger player then he is with the contract demands etc, but NBA players these days want to maximise their earnings, especially in the team that drafted them.
He is top allstar wing, who shown he can be all NBA team level, who defends and scores very well, in a league that is run by wings. If you draft and develop this level of star in most important position, you keep him. You dont lose him to free agency.
One thing to trade him for similar quality player,but to just to lose him? Thats foolish, then you truly live and die by only Tatum getting hot or not. Last seasons playoffs Brown was better then Tatum for most of the series and in finals. Tatum as the better player gets more attention by opponents by facing the best defenders each series, but Brown usually feasts and picks up the slack when Tatum is having off game. 1-2 punch iso scoring like that is needed. Role players cant do that.
Dont discount the importance of coaching, Miami's 2nd star isnt another player, its coach Spoelstra, he completely outcoaching Celtics, and did so with Bucks. In same vein, Joe Mazzulla is DEFENITELY out of his depth and have Celtics confused and running on fumes. They were gonna lose to Philly if the players themselves didnt have a meeting with him and told him he needs to start Big Rob and Al Horford lol
When they had Ime Udoka, they looked MUCH better as a team, despite the fact Tatum and Brown arent the type of stars that carries you to a title. They missing that next level step mentally and efficient go-to-move for their iso scoring game, they chuck too much when in crunch time. No reliable midrange or post moves, or smart drives etc, that extra skill level most superstars have to close off 4th quarters.
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Spo is top 5 all time coach, and currently best active one, and he is
When you already have mentally weak stars, you CANT have a coach this clueless and out of his depth.
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Super max means nada anymore. Especially when cap is about to go up by alot.
Also don't think he is eligible for super max because he missed out on latest all nba selection. Was talk if he got it would been eligible.
He is way better then Tobias friggin Harris. He is great defender and excellent 3 level scorer. Celtics should defenitely keep him.
Issue will be if he wants to leave to be main star elsewhere (that ain't his level). Get out of Tatums shadow.
Also don't think he is eligible for super max because he missed out on latest all nba selection. Was talk if he got it would been eligible.
He is way better then Tobias friggin Harris. He is great defender and excellent 3 level scorer. Celtics should defenitely keep him.
Issue will be if he wants to leave to be main star elsewhere (that ain't his level). Get out of Tatums shadow.