The Lebanese political crisis!!! (8 Viewers)

[Snoop]

Did you try living like them one day?

did you?

So, because of a war the palestinians were part of it before 30 years, we should hang all the generations of palestinians because maybe someone of them will make the same thing!!

Sounds logical to me.

yeah more logical how you concluded that with my post.
yeah 30 years ago, not 300 years ago, and it is still going on. yeah but sure Fatih islam has nothing to do with Palestinians
you always keep saying Fatih Islam, Hamas, Fateh doesn't represent the whole Palestinians, I wonder who represents you guys.

DO you want to convince me that if no armed people were around camps, people inside camps would feel safer??

take it this way, If you come to my house as a guest, and if you bring your weapon with you and point it in my face, you sure will be kicked out.

yes! they will be safer in the camps if they don't have weapons, and ask for protection, and if they don't help these Fateh Islam members to hide between them, or report them to the army. this is how they will be safe. If they don't like it, then they can move somewhere else, and not point their weapons against the owner of the house.

How many times did the Lebanese army try to get in 3ain El-Helweh camp claiming that some thieves are inside it?

I'm sure they will get in it one day in the future and make horrible acts and build another stadium over the corpses. It's nothing new to a brave army like that one, you know.

they can come in whenever they want, they didn't register the camp at your expense, it is still theirs, and they have the right to see some of your "Innocent" people what are they planning.

If the Lebanese feel so scared of the palestinian existence and population, WHY DON'T THEY SAY IT LOUDLY AND ASK UN TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE FOR THEM??

Many politicians said that the Palestinians there should be returned home, and many of them expressed their concern of their existence in Lebanon..
maybe they should understood that, and ask to move from un? or they will stay unless they are kicked out?

SO, you support killing people and arresting them for stupid reasons. Nice.

stupid reasons? like it is happening in Lebanon these days? if that what happens, and If they try to kill my people and cause unrest, yeah I would support that to keep my country safe.

Again, why would they open fire on the Syrian army when the Syrian people treat them like humans. And please tell me what you're meaning with the bolded sentence...

so you are saying Lebanese people are treating your like animals? what exactly Lebanese people did to them? wasn't it the opposite?

 

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[ReBeL]

did you?

I'm talking to you 1 kilometre from a camp, my dear...I know how they live and I know many people of them. But at least, they're treated respectfully here. Really that was a lame question by the way.

yeah more logical how you concluded that with my post.
yeah 30 years ago, not 300 years ago, and it is still going on. yeah but sure Fatih islam has nothing to do with Palestinians
you always keep saying Fatih Islam, Hamas, Fateh doesn't represent the whole Palestinians, I wonder who represents you guys.

I told you people are fed up with politics. Should I follow any idiot politician to live?

take it this way, If you come to my house as a guest, and if you bring your weapon with you and point it in my face, you sure will be kicked out.

yes! they will be safer in the camps if they don't have weapons, and ask for protection, and if they don't help these Fateh Islam members to hide between them, or report them to the army. this is how they will be safe. If they don't like it, then they can move somewhere else, and not point their weapons against the owner of the house.

Take it this way:

Either kick me out of your house, or treat mith some respect. Don't expect me to keep silent while I'm humilated in your house.

they can come in whenever they want, they didn't register the camp at your expense, it is still theirs, and they have the right to see some of your "Innocent" people what are they planning.

They were trusted more than once, and the civilians were the victims. Did the Lebanese army protect people in Tal-Al Zaatar? In Sabra? In Shatila? In Nahr El-Bared? No, they're even the attackers in some cases.

And civilains are innocents whether you admit it or not. If you think our civilians have less right to live than yours then what can I say?

Many politicians said that the Palestinians there should be returned home, and many of them expressed their concern of their existence in Lebanon..
maybe they should understood that, and ask to move from un? or they will stay unless they are kicked out?

I think palestinians don't want to go home because they love the atmosphere in Lebanon. FFS, what are you saying? HOW CAN THEY GO HOME WHEN THEY CAN'T SHOOT ONE BULLET TO GAIN THEIR LANDS BACK??

And they went to UN many times by the way. It's the toilet of USA, if you don't know.

stupid reasons? like it is happening in Lebanon these days? if that what happens, and If they try to kill my people and cause unrest, yeah I would support that to keep my country safe.

Again, I have to repeat that what's happening these days is not between Lebanese and palestinians. It's between Lebanese army and Fatah Al-Islam. Don't generalize.

so you are saying Lebanese people are treating your like animals? what exactly Lebanese people did to them? wasn't it the opposite?

What?

 

[Rami]

Shouldn't this thread be renamed to "The Official Lebanon is not a Fighting Turf for you to Settle your Petty Squabbles" thread?

 

[Bjerknes]

What a sense. So Palestinians should always carry guns??? If thats the case, I'm more than happy not to see them having any rights. It's a Lebanese right not to allow Palestinians to have any rights since they have guns.

He has a point here. And besides, Lebanon is not Palestine.

 

[ReBeL]

Shouldn't this thread be renamed to "The Official Lebanon is not a Fighting Turf for you to Settle your Petty Squabbles" thread?

What do you mean?

 

[Bjerknes]

And by the way, Fatah Al-Islam doesn't work for liberating Palestine.

But they apparently do work for liberating Palestinian refugee camps, or reforming them under Islamic sharia law.

 

[Ahmedios]

If we already know the real target of Fateh Islam, why do we still accusing the Palestinian refugees of supporting them?

And for your information, the aim of Fateh Islam isn't religious by any mean. I know that the members of the organisation themselves are brainwashed in the name of Islam. But the targets are mere political.

What do you mean?

The meaning is pretty obvious.

 

[ReBeL]

The meaning is pretty obvious.

Well, I didn't believe he would interfer in something he knows nothing about.

 

[Azzurri7]

Out of many fighters from these Fatah Islam, 12 of them confessed today, that they were financed from Syrian regime and came from there.


Anyone still doubting Bashar behind this?

 

[Ahmedios]

Out of many fighters from these Fatah Islam, 12 of them confessed today, that they were financed from Syrian regime and came from there.


Anyone still doubting Bashar behind this?

Are we supposed to believe a brainwashed fighter who doesn't give a toss about the life of innocent people nor himself?!

By the way, another fighter form Fateh Islam said that they had entered from Syria and they're supported financially by Lebanese leaders. Should we believe him? The whole situation has turned into a mess, my dear.

 

[Azzurri7]

Are we supposed to believe a brainwashed fighter who doesn't give a toss about the life of innocent people nor himself?!

By the way, another fighter form Fateh Islam said that they had entered from Syria and they're supported financially by Lebanese leaders. Should we believe him? The whole situation has turned into a mess, my dear.

What makes more logic to you Ahmed?

It's not like we should create a rocket and land on the moon in couple of hours. When they accused Lebanese leader it was obvious that they wanted to witness a clash between the leaders, didn't happen.

But when they state from whom they were financed how they enter, bla bla, not to also mention that Tribunal is few days away from starting. makes sense does it?

 

[Ahmedios]

What makes more logic to you Ahmed?

It's not like we should create a rocket and land on the moon in couple of hours. When they accused Lebanese leader it was obvious that they wanted to witness a clash between the leaders, didn't happen.

But when they state from whom they were financed how they enter, bla bla, not to also mention that Tribunal is few days away from starting. makes sense does it?

The most important point isn't from where they did enter Lebanon, it's who is behind them and why? Although, they might have entered through Syria, it isn't Syria of course, simply because the tribunal won't be that effective as you think. Plus and most importantly, we have to look at the history of Fateh Islam itself. It was founded by Islamic fundamentalists who have a specific target in the Middle East and not Lebanon. But, Lebanon is just a station for them to pass to the next stage.

Also, if they're related or financed by Syria, why didn't Syria use Hezballah instead of founding a new organisation?

 

[Snoop]

am I telling you jokes you are putting all these smilies? I am the one who should laugh here cause most of your comments are really funny how biased you are like Palestinians are fucking saints or something, the whole world against you, poor you

I'm talking to you 1 kilometre from a camp, my dear...I know how they live and I know many people of them. But at least, they're treated respectfully here. Really that was a lame question by the way.

It's no I guess,hmm I know how is life there too, what is the point anyway? Did I said they are living quality life there? andI thought we were talking about Lebanon.. so it is bad out there too? Interesting.. It's not the Lebanese then that treating you bad..

actually your question was lame , what the hell "did you live there" suppose to mean?

I told you people are fed up with politics. Should I follow any idiot politician to live?

I thought you guys elect your own presidents and your own Government. hmm

Take it this way:

Either kick me out of your house, or treat mith some respect. Don't expect me to keep silent while I'm humilated in your house.

that's rude, if you are not aware.. you are not in a hotel paying money to stay at my house, so you can't talk with me in that tone at my house, just like your people can't be rude like that against Lebanese, because you are not giving anything to them in return for your stay, they are not forced to please you.

They were trusted more than once, and the civilians were the victims. Did the Lebanese army protect people in Tal-Al Zaatar? In Sabra? In Shatila? In Nahr El-Bared? No, they're even the attackers in some cases.

which year you are talking about? the year when Syria was ruling Lebanon or before?

And civilains are innocents whether you admit it or not. If you think our civilians have less right to live than yours then what can I say?

Did the Civilians help in any way the Lebanese government to report about these Terrorists? that was a question, the answer will help you find out if they are innocents or not.. and nobody is claiming you that your people has no right to live, don't put these ugly cwords in my mouth..

I think palestinians don't want to go home because they love the atmosphere in Lebanon. FFS, what are you saying? HOW CAN THEY GO HOME WHEN THEY CAN'T SHOOT ONE BULLET TO GAIN THEIR LANDS BACK??

And they went to UN many times by the way. It's the toilet of USA, if you don't know.

you mean the likes of Syria or Jordan rejected them? did they go to Syrian or Jordan's authority to ask them to host you guys? if they went did they accept? if they accepted did the UN rejected that even both sides agreed? so UN is keeping you guys intentionally in Lebanon?

Again, I have to repeat that what's happening these days is not between Lebanese and palestinians. It's between Lebanese army and Fatah Al-Islam. Don't generalize.

yeah Fath il Islam are aliens, they came from mars to Invade Lebanon.

What?

you forgot your question? umpkin:

Again, why would they open fire on the Syrian army when the Syrian people treat them like humans

so you are saying Lebanese people are treating you like animals? what exactly Lebanese people did to them?

do you want me to say in other language? what did Lebanese Civilians do to your Palestinians Civilians in Lebanon.

 

[Rami]

Well, I didn't believe he would interfer in something he knows nothing about.

Why do I know nothing about it?

 

[Vinman]

Why do I know nothing about it?

because Saudi Arabia is so far away ???

 

[Snoop]

nah.. because Rami didn't live in camp with them, or he should be Palestinian at least.

 

[Rami]

because Saudi Arabia is so far away ???

Na its just probably because my comment wasn't to his appealing

 

[Rami]

nah.. because Rami didn't live in camp with them, or he should be Palestinian at least.

What does this have to do with being Palestinian? So I have to live in a refugee camp to have an opinion or understand whats going on? Next time when you talk about Juve, remember that you don't live @ Galileo Ferraris 32, Torino

All I am saying, Syria, Israel, Palestine, stop using Lebanon as your fighting turf.

 

[Snoop]

What does this have to do with being Palestinian? So I have to live in a refugee camp to have an opinion or understand whats going on? Next time when you talk about Juve, remember that you don't live @ Galileo Ferraris 32, Torino

All I am saying, Syria, Israel, Palestine, stop using Lebanon as your fighting turf.

tell that to Rebel, that's how he thinks.

 

[Rami]

tell that to Rebel, that's how he thinks.

Lol, I don't know why I have been so anal on you. Actually that was directed to Rebel, I didn't really see who posted it, I just assumed its rebel because it the kind of thing he would say