The Lebanese political crisis!!! (21 Viewers)

[Ahmedios]

Have you ever thought about the reasons behind that? And please don't give the crap of just wanting to take over the country because they are evil. I don't bu that anymore. All the times Israel really harmed the country was wither because Arafat declared war against them (from Lebanese grounds) or because Nasralla followed Arafat's steps.

So, they declared war on Lebanon in 1982 just for Arafat and they did the same last summer just for Nasrallah, this is absolutely ridiculous. If Israel hasn't yet decided to really hurt Lebanon, so that certainly related to the fact that Lebanon isn't that dangerous when compared to the other countries surrounding Israel. I'm not saying that they are crappy devils but there is a history that you can check.

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[JCK]

We avoid another Qana by making peace. I say no more.

 

[Ahmedios]

We avoid another Qana by making peace. I say no more.

And who will put the rules for such a wired peace? The strong or the weak side, I'm just wondering!!!

You are Lebanese and, without a doubt, you know more about your country. Could you please explain this: ?

 

[mnementh]

I don't understand, this thread was supposed only to be about Lebanon, yet the adminstrators allow antisemitic fanatics like Ahmedios to bash Israel all the time and spread his ignorance ? It seems odd.

And before someone says that semitism includes not only Jews, he should realise what antisemitism is, it's a word which means anti-jewism, it doesn't have anything to do with Shem from the bible and the semitic people etc, but it's just an alternate word for anti-jewisim coined by someone in the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism You can read about it. As for saying it's only anti-zionism, i suggest reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism
it doesn't make any sense in saying "I don't hate Jews but I don't want them to have a country" - it would be like saying ""I don't hate French people but I want France destroyed". As for anti zionist Jews: (1) it's actually possible to hate your own kind (2) religiously, some believe a Jewish country should be when the messiah comes, it's a minority of really religious jews, so that's not relevant.

So basically, I just believe the article should stay on topic. We don't want lies to be spread about here, stupid myths concerning Israel Egypt from the protocols of the muslim brotherhood or Al Qaeda... Israel has given everything for peace, to the point on insanity ,anyone can see it.

The focus should be Nasrallah and the damage he's doing to Lebanon. Nobody I'm sure intelligent is buying his excuses, the border between israel and lebanon is the internationally recognised one. A few days ago he tried to mine a few bombs on the side of the Israeli border (outside the fence) to kill israeli soldiers and failed and tries to cause more distubances. the guy should obviously be elminated and those who want to make war. If it wasn't for Assad or Nasrallah Israel and Lebanon would be in peace, remember that. Accidents like Qana wouldn't have happened either.

 

[JCK]

What is there to explain? it's a certain man's point of view.

What rules? Peace means no more fighting between the countries, as simple as that.

 

[mnementh]

What is there to explain? it's a certain man's point of view.

What rules? Peace means no more fighting between the countries, as simple as that.

His point of view is spreading antisemitic remarks. The real occupation of the middle east is those who deny the rights of peoples like Druze, Kurds, Maronites, Assyrians, Amorites and Copts to have a country. That's why Ahmedios hates Israel. Israel is breaking his Arab fantasy world, well there are more people here and they want to live too. Arabs in Israel have all the rights, parlimant members and a minister too and a high court judge etc. Anyone can google and find an antisemitic article here and there or isolated incidents, but nobody can deny that. Ahmedios can't deny that Israel is a successful democracy and he wants to take it down to the middle ages . That's the core of the issue. Nasrallah wants the same.

 

[ReBeL]

Arabs in Israel have all the rights, parlimant members and a minister too and a high court judge etc.

Pardon!!

 

[mnementh]

in fact, even more rights, as they don't have to enlist in the army etc... druzes do have too.

btw, i saw we're spreading youtube links.

 

[Azzurri7]

Lots of Lebanese people want to make peace with the country that has been trying to destroy Lebanon since 1982 till the previous summer. I can't fathom that.

So what's your point? Keep fighting Israel? get over it man you and each one who thinks the way you think.

Yeah, we had a war with Israel just like we had with Syria and Palestine....Why should we have a good relations with syria and palestine and on the other hand not to have with Israel? again the answer is because the other two are arabs.

FFS, If thats the case, If you want to apply your theory or whatever I shall call It, Germany shouldn't have relations with atleast 10's of countries, the same goes with States the same with France and each country that participated in WW1 and 2.

Arabs should really get over Israel.

I advice you not to hear from the media in the USA. I think that you know the reasons. When I asked you where do you live, you answered me by saying home. Now, I'm pretty sure that you are 100% right. You speak from your home.

I like the way you make conclusions(Keep it up). I live home just like any other person.

Next time don't talk on my behalf telling me whether to listen to the Media in the US or not. I listen to CNN just like I listen to Al-Arabiya, Al Jazeera, Future, LBC, New Tv etc....

And incase you think I live in States, then you are wrong.

I also think you have no Idea about what's going on in Middle-East. I doubt you really know the situation between the Lebanese-Syrians-Israelis. Try not to give solutions unless you know what's really going on.

I like the fact that you are so innocent and you think that you live in a happy world. If you think that any Arabic country even Lebanon (Of course if you still think that Lebanon is an Arabic country) can live peacefully with Israel, so excuse me, you comprehend nothing about the Middle East. There are facts and you must confront those facts. Anyways, the days will prove the truth of my words.

Of course with people who have the same way of thinking like you will never live in peace. People like you that keep on thinking making war with Israel is the best thing shouldn't really talk.

Israelis are humans, I'm sure they don't want to live in war unlike you. And If Israel really disturb you why don't you just join a party and go find a way to kill some people? get over FFS.

We're in 21st century, some are studying and thinking how to live in a moon and you're still thinking how to blow a country like Israel, people are trying to protect their families, friends and children and you're still trying to convince me that making peace with a country like Israel wouldn't be good.

I tell you what, you keep on thinking this way, I'll keep on wishing that my country make peace with Israel.

 

[JCK]

Word.

 

[ReBeL]

Arabs should really get over Israel.

Of course with people who have the same way of thinking like you will never live in peace. People like you that keep on thinking making war with Israel is the best thing shouldn't really talk.

Israelis are humans, I'm sure they don't want to live in war unlike you. And If Israel really disturb you why don't you just join a party and go find a way to kill some people? get over FFS.

We're in 21st century, some are studying and thinking how to live in a moon and you're still thinking how to blow a country like Israel, people are trying to protect their families, friends and children and you're still trying to convince me that making peace with a country like Israel wouldn't be good.

I tell you what, you keep on thinking this way, I'll keep on wishing that my country make peace with Israel.

Dream on, Rab...

 

[Azzurri7]

They say dreams come true.

 

[Falafel]

They say dreams come true.

ur's is a fantasy

 

[ADiGATi0N]

Of course with people who have the same way of thinking like you will never live in peace. People like you that keep on thinking making war with Israel is the best thing shouldn't really talk.

Israelis are humans, I'm sure they don't want to live in war unlike you. And If Israel really disturb you why don't you just join a party and go find a way to kill some people? get over FFS.

We're in 21st century, some are studying and thinking how to live in a moon and you're still thinking how to blow a country like Israel, people are trying to protect their families, friends and children and you're still trying to convince me that making peace with a country like Israel wouldn't be good.

I tell you what, you keep on thinking this way, I'll keep on wishing that my country make peace with Israel.

peace with Israel.

Tell the Israelis just to leave the Arab land. Israel wont stop till they take over the land between the Nile and Euphrates. Man that is the meaning of their flag.

 

[Ahmedios]

So what's your point? Keep fighting Israel? get over it man you and each one who thinks the way you think.

Yeah, we had a war with Israel just like we had with Syria and Palestine....Why should we have a good relations with syria and palestine and on the other hand not to have with Israel? again the answer is because the other two are arabs.

FFS, If thats the case, If you want to apply your theory or whatever I shall call It, Germany shouldn't have relations with atleast 10's of countries, the same goes with States the same with France and each country that participated in WW1 and 2.

Arabs should really get over Israel.

Who is fighting Israel? Lebanon hasn't entered a war against Israel yet but Israel was the aggressor and the Lebanese national resistance was the one who defended its homeland. You are talking about yourself not about the Lebanese, when the Lebanese demonstrate against the existance of the Syrian army in Lebanon and for Hariri's death, this doesn't mean that they want to make peace with all their neighbours including Israel.

Forget about the word Arab. What is the connection between you and the arab? Ironically, you think that all the things apply on you also apply on all the Lebanese.

You analogy makes no sense at all, you can't compare what happened in both the WW1 and WW2 to the plight which millions of Arab people are living due to Israel.

I like the way you make conclusions(Keep it up). I live home just like any other person.

Next time don't talk on my behalf telling me whether to listen to the Media in the US or not. I listen to CNN just like I listen to Al-Arabiya, Al Jazeera, Future, LBC, New Tv etc....

And incase you think I live in States, then you are wrong.

I also think you have no Idea about what's going on in Middle-East. I doubt you really know the situation between the Lebanese-Syrians-Israelis. Try not to give solutions unless you know what's really going on.

Yeah, you live in the USA, but this isn't the point. The point here is that you has grown up with the same idea and you're trying to justify this idea. The whole issue started years and years before the foundation of the previously mentioned channels. It is inside your head, people.

By the way, I have 8 Lebanese friends, half of them are Christians. None of them have ever had the same ideology like yours. Accordingly, I can say that I'm talking on behalf of them not just representing my own viewpoint. You can say that, you as well, most of your friends are Lebanese, but I think that they either live in the USA or you know them from chatting on the internet. I'm not saying that the Lebanese who live away from their homeland don't comprehend what is happening in Lebanon, certainly they aren't living inside the main event though.

How can I know more about the USA and its problem more than you? Of course, you're supposed to know more. Not just because I have some American channels or I watch some American programmes I know the same facts, how people think, and what they are suffering. The media is deceiving and I don't depend just on it.

Of course with people who have the same way of thinking like you will never live in peace. People like you that keep on thinking making war with Israel is the best thing shouldn't really talk.

What is the value of peace without dignity?

Actually, you don't know me to give a fair opinion about mine. Why do you want peace? You live thousand of miles away from troubles and don't tell me that you care about the Lebanese because if you were, you wouldn't have forgot what happened in Qana just because thinking that making peace with Israel, Lebanon will avoid such a disaster again. You remind me of the innocent guy who tries to avoid the bloody beast by obeying his orders. Enjoy living in your dreams, but I think this won't last a lot.

Israelis are humans, I'm sure they don't want to live in war unlike you. And If Israel really disturb you why don't you just join a party and go find a way to kill some people? get over FFS.

We're in 21st century, some are studying and thinking how to live in a moon and you're still thinking how to blow a country like Israel, people are trying to protect their families, friends and children and you're still trying to convince me that making peace with a country like Israel wouldn't be good.

I tell you what, you keep on thinking this way, I'll keep on wishing that my country make peace with Israel.

What on earth are you talking about? They want to live in peace!!! Haven't you watched what is happening daily to the Palestinians in both the West bank and in Gaza Strip? Haven't you heard about what are the Israeli troops doing to the Aska Mosque? Haven't you heard about the racism everywhere in this illegal country against the Arabs and the Sephardic Jews? How could a country, that needs peace, try as hard as they can to have all weapons of mass destruction and to become a nuclear power in a region free from such types of weapons?

By the way, Israel used international forbidden weapons in its war against Lebanon during the last summer. You may claim that they had their causes as they wanted to teach Nasrallah a lesson! Look under your nose and I guarantee that you'll perceive what most of the Lebanese have faith in.

Dream on, Rab...

ur's is a fantasy

Words.

 

[Ahmedios]

peace with Israel.

Tell the Israelis just to leave the Arab land. Israel wont stop till they take over the land between the Nile and Euphrates. Man that is the meaning of their flag.

Enough said.

 

[Slagathor]

Tell the Israelis just to leave the Arab land. Israel wont stop till they take over the land between the Nile and Euphrates. Man that is the meaning of their flag.

Uhm no, their flag design is based on the tallit. The stripes of the Israeli flag are meant to symbolise the same stripes of the tallit, emphasising the connection between the modern State of Israel and the Jewish roots from which it was born.

The "Nile to Euphrate" theory was born from Arab paranoia and is false.

 

[Ahmedios]

Uhm no, their flag design is based on the tallit. The stripes of the Israeli flag are meant to symbolise the same stripes of the tallit, emphasising the connection between the modern State of Israel and the Jewish roots from which it was born.

The "Nile to Euphrate" theory was born from Arab paranoia and is false.

So, check what is written on the entrance of the Knesset.

Did you ever try to read the diaries of Ben Gurion? I doubt.

 

[Slagathor]

So, check what is written on the entrance of the Knesset.

Did you ever try to read the diaries of Ben Gurion? I doubt.

Look, I don't doubt there are some hardcore Zionists who would love to see Israel stretch from the Nile to the Euphrate, but that's not the point. The point is that is not the official meaning of the Israeli flag.

 

[Ahmedios]

Look, I don't doubt there are some hardcore Zionists who would love to see Israel stretch from the Nile to the Euphrate, but that's not the point. The point is that is not the official meaning of the Israeli flag.

Away from the official meaning of the Israeli flag, you said "that there are some hardcore Zionists that would love". No, Israel foundation has been living on that hidden theory and they are trying as possible as they can and by any mean to achieve it year after year.

There is no difference between Zionists and hardcore Zionists. The only difference is that Zionists have some political tricks to depend on, whereas the hardcore ones are very aggressive and they do prefer taking bloody actions immediately, but at the end the target is the same.

You can check the difference here.