The Lebanese political crisis!!! (19 Viewers)

[Igal]

Israel is a democratic country!!!

And how did Hamas reach the authority?? On tanks??

Can you prove Israel isn't a democratic country? Posting a laughing smiley doesn't make you right...
BTW, I was wondering... where do you live?

 

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[JCK]

The second time I say it, this thread is about Lebanon.

 

[Slagathor]

Who said that they are Christians??

I thought that's what you meant with this post:

My point briefly is:

Media prefers to refer to Hezbollah as extremists to Islam who don't accept others just because of their religion...

We see here a group of children who celebrate the same day with their Christian brothers, and with Lebanese flag on their cheeks, they can tell everybody that they are Lebanese just like others...

You may tell me that it is just a picture, and we can't generalize the idea of it on the whole people, but I think that pic is just an example for the most honest people of Lebanon, CHILDREN...or at least, I like to see it that way

 

[mnementh]

Middle East stats including Lebanon

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=1

Algeria 6 5 Not Free
Libya 7 7 Not Free
Bahrain 5 5 Partly Free
Morocco 5 4 Partly Free
Egypt 6 5 Not Free
Oman 6 5 Not Free
Iran 6 6 Not Free
Qatar 6 5 Not Free
Iraq 6 5 Not Free
Saudi Arabia 7 6 Not Free
Israel 1 2 Free
Syria 7 7 Not Free
Jordan 5 4 Partly Free
Tunisia 6 5 Not Free
Kuwait 4 5 Partly Free
United Arab Emirates 6 6 Not Free
Lebanon 5 4 Partly Free
Yemen 5 5 Partly free

 

[Rami]

Middle East stats including Lebanon

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=1

Algeria 6 5 Not Free
Libya 7 7 Not Free
Bahrain 5 5 Partly Free
Morocco 5 4 Partly Free
Egypt 6 5 Not Free
Oman 6 5 Not Free
Iran 6 6 Not Free
Qatar 6 5 Not Free
Iraq 6 5 Not Free
Saudi Arabia 7 6 Not Free
Israel 1 2 Free
Syria 7 7 Not Free
Jordan 5 4 Partly Free
Tunisia 6 5 Not Free
Kuwait 4 5 Partly Free
United Arab Emirates 6 6 Not Free
Lebanon 5 4 Partly Free
Yemen 5 5 Partly free

How does one measure freedom??

 

[swag]

How does one measure freedom??

I think it's in kg/m³.

 

[Rami]

I think it's in kg/m³.

Na thats used to measure the density of some people over here

 

[mnementh]

How does one measure freedom??

Good question. It's measured by political rights and civil rights, that's the numbers there going from press freedom, elections, equality all that they have an explanation in the site.

 

[Azzurri7]

Lets stop the Israeli-Palestinian thing, we've already had 10's of this thread.

Lets keep the topic like Jack said.

 

[mnementh]

I agree. But if it's about Hizballah, Israel will probably come up. I think going on topic that it's obvious that if it wasn't for Lebanon being taken hostage by Syria and Hezbollah then Israel would sign a peace treaty with Lebanon TODAY. Israel and Lebanon have no disputes between themselves whatsoever. Israel signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. The border between Israel and Lebanon is internationally recognised and not disputed by either side (If Lebanon wanted the Sheba farms in a peace treaty, they will get it (I don't know if they demand it, I think it's just an hizballah excuse), as well as any economical or prisoner issues it will all be settled easily). This is the ultimate proof that Hezballah aren't Lebanese but serve a foreign interest.

 

[metalhead]

Let me guess, you are also a Palestinian.

Sorry to dissapoint you but no

 

[metalhead]

I agree. But if it's about Hizballah, Israel will probably come up. I think going on topic that it's obvious that if it wasn't for Lebanon being taken hostage by Syria and Hezbollah then Israel would sign a peace treaty with Lebanon TODAY. Israel and Lebanon have no disputes between themselves whatsoever. Israel signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. The border between Israel and Lebanon is internationally recognised and not disputed by either side (If Lebanon wanted the Sheba farms in a peace treaty, they will get it (I don't know if they demand it, I think it's just an hizballah excuse), as well as any economical or prisoner issues it will all be settled easily). This is the ultimate proof that Hezballah aren't Lebanese but serve a foreign interest.

If deplomacy can get the Sheba farms back then so be it. Hezbolla wont have a reason to keep fighting. They'd have to drop their weapons. A strong and fair govt is vital after that. All sects of lebanon need to be represented.

 

[Rami]

But Sheba is Israeli land.....

 

[Bjerknes]

I think it's in kg/m³.

Either that or in Webers. Use one of Maxwell's equations and you're bound to come up with something.

 

[mnementh]

But Sheba is Israeli land.....

Yes, but Israel is willing to make that sacrifice for Peace. The problem metalhead that Hezbollah's attacks against Israel have nothing to do with the Shebba farms. It's just an excuse. If they had that, they would find something else (in fact, there already is). Hezbollah is a proxy of an infinite source of violence against Israel which is exactly why it's not acting in the interests of Lebanon. Lebanon's interest is to have peace with Israel - just like Egypt and Jordan agreed to. Since there is no real dispute, the only reason Lebanon is not at peace with Israel is Hezbollah foreign interests against Israel that have nothing to do with Lebanon. In fact, if it wasn't for Hezbollah, there would have already been de facto Peace between Israel and Lebanon because neither would attack each other. The peace treaty will only help the economics and development of the region. Again, the Hezbollah is the problem.

 

[Azzurri7]

I agree. But if it's about Hizballah, Israel will probably come up. I think going on topic that it's obvious that if it wasn't for Lebanon being taken hostage by Syria and Hezbollah then Israel would sign a peace treaty with Lebanon TODAY. Israel and Lebanon have no disputes between themselves whatsoever. Israel signed peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. The border between Israel and Lebanon is internationally recognised and not disputed by either side (If Lebanon wanted the Sheba farms in a peace treaty, they will get it (I don't know if they demand it, I think it's just an hizballah excuse), as well as any economical or prisoner issues it will all be settled easily). This is the ultimate proof that Hezballah aren't Lebanese but serve a foreign interest.

Let me tell you something mnementh......

If Israel accept syria's proposal to make peace with them just like what they did with Egypt and Jordan, If this will happen, then me and you and many other people would be thankful for that.... Why?? Because,

1- Israeli's conditions will surely Include disarming Hezbolla and Hamas.

2- Stop financing them

3- The situation in Lebanon would be much better without Hezbolla, no more hostages or war between the two countries

After all this a Peace can take place between Israel and Lebanon....and lets not forget how the two countries would turn If they were to make peace....

Middle east and I'm talking about this Zone (Lebanon, Israel and part of Palestine) would attract lot of tourist people, lot of business deals can also take place between Lebanese and Israeli investors....

The 650.000 to 700.000 Palestinians can also return to their home-land......

We can finish from all these headache and problems, by just MAKING PEACE, a trio Peace, between Lebanon, Syria and Israel.

Think of It, how would middle east be much better without all these tension.

We can visit Palestine and Israel, they can visit Lebanon and all these routine that happens between close countries.

Hopefully the first step will be Israeli making peace with Syria.

 

[Azzurri7]

Yes, but Israel is willing to make that sacrifice for Peace. The problem metalhead that Hezbollah's attacks against Israel have nothing to do with the Shebba farms. It's just an excuse. If they had that, they would find something else (in fact, there already is). Hezbollah is a proxy of an infinite source of violence against Israel which is exactly why it's not acting in the interests of Lebanon. Lebanon's interest is to have peace with Israel - just like Egypt and Jordan agreed to. Since there is no real dispute, the only reason Lebanon is not at peace with Israel is Hezbollah foreign interests against Israel that have nothing to do with Lebanon. In fact, if it wasn't for Hezbollah, there would have already been de facto Peace between Israel and Lebanon because neither would attack each other. The peace treaty will only help the economics and development of the region. Again, the Hezbollah is the problem.

I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you here.... If you go back to history Shebaa is indeed Lebanese. Though the real problem of Shebaa is Syria ATM, they are still refusing to admit that Shebaa is Lebanese. Thats what's taking lot of time.

However, Shebaa is as big as maybe Delle Alpi stadium, not worth killing people for It, but surely worth returning It to the 10452km.

 

[Falafel]

Let me tell you something mnementh......

If Israel accept syria's proposal to make peace with them just like what they did with Egypt and Jordan, If this will happen, then me and you and many other people would be thankful for that.... Why?? Because,

1- Israeli's conditions will surely Include disarming Hezbolla and Hamas.

2- Stop financing them

3- The situation in Lebanon would be much better without Hezbolla, no more hostages or war between the two countries

After all this a Peace can take place between Israel and Lebanon....and lets not forget how the two countries would turn If they were to make peace....

Middle east and I'm talking about this Zone (Lebanon, Israel and part of Palestine) would attract lot of tourist people, lot of business deals can also take place between Lebanese and Israeli investors....

The 650.000 to 700.000 Palestinians can also return to their home-land......

We can finish from all these headache and problems, by just MAKING PEACE, a trio Peace, between Lebanon, Syria and Israel.

Think of It, how would middle east be much better without all these tension.

We can visit Palestine and Israel, they can visit Lebanon and all these routine that happens between close countries.

Hopefully the first step will be Israeli making peace with Syria.

disarming hamas will make way for zionists to completely rule palestine
no thanks

 

[Igal]

Let me tell you something mnementh......

If Israel accept syria's proposal to make peace with them just like what they did with Egypt and Jordan, If this will happen, then me and you and many other people would be thankful for that.... Why?? Because,

1- Israeli's conditions will surely Include disarming Hezbolla and Hamas.

2- Stop financing them

3- The situation in Lebanon would be much better without Hezbolla, no more hostages or war between the two countries

After all this a Peace can take place between Israel and Lebanon....and lets not forget how the two countries would turn If they were to make peace....

Middle east and I'm talking about this Zone (Lebanon, Israel and part of Palestine) would attract lot of tourist people, lot of business deals can also take place between Lebanese and Israeli investors....

The 650.000 to 700.000 Palestinians can also return to their home-land......

We can finish from all these headache and problems, by just MAKING PEACE, a trio Peace, between Lebanon, Syria and Israel.

Think of It, how would middle east be much better without all these tension.

We can visit Palestine and Israel, they can visit Lebanon and all these routine that happens between close countries.

Hopefully the first step will be Israeli making peace with Syria.

+rep

 

[Igal]

disarming hamas will make way for zionists to completely rule palestine
no thanks

do you even know what a Zionism is? :confused2 :rolleyes2