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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Tbh, I would prefer schweinsteiger for free to cover for camo. At least we could make some money off of marchionni and get someone for free and hopefully with some good performances maybe even sell schweiny later for a nice price. Obviously the germans on here don't rate him highly and I trust that because I have german friends/family that would say the same but wouldn't he be a better option than marchionni?

This is a long shot and probably a really bad example but cannavaro sucked at inter and excelled in a juve jersey...maybe all schweiny needs is a new atmosphere with a team that has confidence in him.

Anyways, financially doesn't it make sense to get him for free to reinforce the mid or do you all think he is comparable to marchionni (whom I personally don't rate highly)? And sell marchionni? We need all the money we can get to reinforce our team so.....what doesn't make sense? Who would be a better backup for camo...who knows maybe he would play great and for a non existent pricetag I say go for it b/c we could always sell him right?
 

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Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
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For the summer:

Buy/recall:
Alonso 20m
Schweinsteiger
Criscito
Top quality fullback 10m?
Manninger (permanent) 3m
Nedved (retired?)

35m

Sell:
Zanetti (fine player, but injury prone - time to cash in) 6m
Marchionni (okay squad player, but same as Zanetti) 4m
Zebina (same as above) 4m
Andrade (if we haven't released him already)
Ekdal (loan)

14m

Buffon
New/Grygera
Legrottaglie
Chiellini
New/Molinaro
Camoranesi
Xabi Alonso
Sissoko
Giovinco
Del Piero
Amauri

Manninger
Brazzo
Mellberg
Criscito
De Ceglie
Schweinsteiger
Tiago
Poulsen
Marchisio
Trezeguet
Iaquinta

Something like this would be pretty decent.
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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for free schweinsteiger is ok, but please do not expect more of him than from marchionni ... in fact marchionni did pretty well at the end of last season where he cooly dribbled past 2 defenders and slotted in like a pro ! if he would regain that form he would be more usefull than schweinsteiger. i think marchionnis pace is really something that is missing in our game ... do we have any quick players ...
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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Please delete the above post. Fucking insult to our club to even imply we should stoop to that barrel scraping tactic of a small team :p


P.S Mr Virtual beauty, you are even more ridicolous to now say Marchionni would be more useful then Schweini. You are underrating him more then he is being overrated now.
 

A_LAcki

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Dec 23, 2002
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Problem about Schweinsteiger is, he would demand a starting shirt every week and he isn't afraid to demand it through the media. He is not a teamplayer and I don't want him here at all.
 

Marceℓℓo

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Mar 16, 2007
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Schweinsteiger's stats in Bundesliga doesn't look too shabby,he's getting better season after season at least:

Season______Games____Goals____Assissts____Minutes Played

08/09________10________3_________6_________770

07/08________30________1_________8________1861

06/07________27________4_________6________2255

05/06________30________3_________3________1976

I'm undecided whether I'd want him or not.
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
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to now say Marchionni would be more useful then Schweini. You are underrating him more then he is being overrated now.
please quote me writing that or learn reading ...

i did say that you can not expect more from schweini ... in my opinion right NOW they would both be pretty useless. no one better, no one worse ...

i just mentioned that marchionni had his games where he was good, too ... just like basti had his national games ... so that does not make any of the two better, because right now they are both clueless...
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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Marceℓℓo;1795628 said:
The bolded part is exactly why Scheinsteiger is overrated by most.Virtual and myself can judge Schweinsteiger pretty good considering we're living in Germany and guess what?We both aren't huge fans of him.That should tell you something.

To answer your question:Capel might be an option to be Nedved's replacement,I didn't see much of him myself though.
I agree
If Capel is available because his contract negotiation with Sevilla is stalled
But Barca and Madrid also wants him. Do you think Capel will choose us
After lot of Spain Player fails to shine in Serie A (Mendieta, Jose Mari, Farinos, etc)
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
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Definetly, much like Podolski, the pressure of the Bayern shirt has effected him tremendously. IMO he's a very talented player which could explode in a new enviroment, again just like Podolski.
Exactly, its evident in podolski more though.
i don't know if this can be called logic ...

you want a player that you by yourself claim is not a team player right at the moment just for the chance that we could teach him something he did not learn in nearly 5 years first team action for bayern a very successful german club with good coaches (like hitzfeld)? that would be a real big gamble ... than we could take every player with problems and teach him to be a great player with our great coach ... first everybody bashed ranieri and now you think he is better than different well known coaches that did not succeed in teaching bastian how to play properly . . . sounds weired to me
Well i guess i didn't deliver my point very well. Vlatko said it better. My point is about a change in environment that would incite a change in mentality. Its not only about discipline, its also about decision making and having certain expectations from the player. The biggest problem in Bayern is complacency even the great Hitzfeld himself had problems with that last season.

You are saying that he wouldn't be more than a marchionni for this team. Schweini is the type of player that steps up for challenge and increasing that level of expectation with the change in environment could provide that challenge. And consistency is the hardest thing to gain especially for his type of player.

Its a risk, but if we can get him on the cheap or even free than i don't understand how you wouldn't go for him. You've seen first hand what can he do, now that illogical.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Please delete the above post. Fucking insult to our club to even imply we should stoop to that barrel scraping tactic of a small team :p
but just imagine - molinaro takes 70 meter throw from our side, trez or amauri gets a slight touch on it and we score. we could use long ball tactic even in throw-ins :weee:
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
16,706
For the summer:

Buy/recall:
Alonso 20m
Schweinsteiger
Criscito
Top quality fullback 10m?
Manninger (permanent) 3m
Nedved (retired?)

35m

Sell:
Zanetti (fine player, but injury prone - time to cash in) 6m

Marchionni (okay squad player, but same as Zanetti) 4m
Zebina (same as above) 4m
Andrade (if we haven't released him already)
Ekdal (loan)

14m

Buffon
New/Grygera
Legrottaglie
Chiellini
New/Molinaro
Camoranesi
Xabi Alonso
Sissoko
Giovinco
Del Piero
Amauri

Manninger
Brazzo
Mellberg
Criscito
De Ceglie
Schweinsteiger
Tiago
Poulsen
Marchisio
Trezeguet
Iaquinta

Something like this would be pretty decent.
:shocked::shocked:

He is injury prone, but he's still our best central midfielder.
 

v1rtu4l

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Mar 4, 2008
6,349
Exactly, its evident in podolski more though.

Well i guess i didn't deliver my point very well. Vlatko said it better. My point is about a change in environment that would incite a change in mentality. Its not only about discipline, its also about decision making and having certain expectations from the player. The biggest problem in Bayern is complacency even the great Hitzfeld himself had problems with that last season.
to many "could" and "would"s in here for my taste, but everyone may have his own opinion.




You are saying that he wouldn't be more than a marchionni for this team. Schweini is the type of player that steps up for challenge and increasing that level of expectation with the change in environment could provide that challenge. And consistency is the hardest thing to gain especially for his type of player.
it's just like with Ballack when he played for Bayern .... when Bayern played bad, he did play bad. There was no occasion, where he even tried to change the direction of fate and fight ... don't get me wrong. Ballack is good, when everything around him is good, but he was never the leader he ought to be.
With Schweinsteiger it's similar, but with the exception that he often doesn't do much, even when the others around him (like ribeiry) play good.


Its a risk, but if we can get him on the cheap or even free than i don't understand how you wouldn't go for him. You've seen first hand what can he do, now that illogical.
read a few posts further up ... i wrote "for free it would be ok" ;)

on one hand i think he would not be satisfied being substitute to camo and probably moan in the media about it (which could generate problems under the players) on the other side i think right now our players are so united, that they would rather stand to ranieri and not to a new player that moans ... but you never know.
 

Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
7,327
:shocked::shocked:

He is injury prone, but he's still our best central midfielder.
Sure, so was Zidane.

This was on the condition that we acquire Xabi Alonso and keep both Tiago and Poulsen. This would make Zanetti somewhat redundant, and with his injury record and age he felt like the most expendable one.
 
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