The...I want this player to Juve thread (37 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Considering how Camo injury prone is,Iaquinta is the one who should get chance to play and change formation maybe but not to let Nocerino play there.It`s our coach big mistake.

And if everybody think we don`t need another striker why does everyone want Huntelaar here btw?

 

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[Daddi]

Palladino is better at RM than Nocerino. It's sad that Ranieri rather play a useless Nocerino instead of Pallagol. He would rather play out of position than not at all. I have a feeling we will screw up all our talents, bigtime. De Ceglie, Marchisio, Giovinco, Palladino, Criscito.. getting screwed by our club atm. We shoult have them as backup for next season or let them go.

 

[Cuti]

Next year we have Lanzafame coming back on loan from Bari, plus there will be others, no need to spend money on a striker

 

[Dostoevsky]

Palladino is better at RM than Nocerino. It's sad that Ranieri rather play a useless Nocerino instead of Pallagol. He would rather play out of position than not at all. I have a feeling we will screw up all our talents, bigtime. De Ceglie, Marchisio, Giovinco, Palladino, Criscito.. getting screwed by our club atm. We shoult have them as backup for next season or let them go.

Criscito should get some weight and go to the guy and then learn to play.

Gio should get his chance to play instead of Nedved sometimes if he doesn`t retire this summer.

De Ceglie should be rotate with someone that we buy...let`s say Dossena

Palladino must prove himself first.This year he was really bad.Ranieri`s fault.

Marchisio?Oh I think we can already consider him as ruined here.We have Sissoko,Nocerino,Tiago and Zanetti and we want to buy some of Lampard.Diego,van der Vaart or Hleb.Even if we sell Tiago I think Marchisio will not get his chance sadly.

Sissoko is great and he should be starter but this season our best middle is Zanetti I guess but he`ll probably be on bench considering that we want many players at that position.

 

[Omair]

Marchisio?Oh I think we can already consider him as ruined here.We have Sissoko,Nocerino,Tiago and Zanetti and we want to buy some of Lampard.Diego,van der Vaart or Hleb.Even if we sell Tiago I think Marchisio will not get his chance sadly.

S.

i will have to agree .. sadly

 

[Mark]

Rumor of the day:

Alberto Aquilani to Juve.

Not all Roma players hate Juventus as much as Lazio.Totti's probably the only one who's gone on record and said that the only two teams he'll never play for are Lazio and Juventus.

Aquilani's purchase would be fantastic.I dont believe that us being Juventus,and Aquilani being a Roma player would be a hurdle in a potential transfer.We've done business in the fast with them..we got Emerson,and we've always been heavily linked with some of their former or current players like Mancini,Chivu and Cassano.Hell we were even linked to De Rossi in the past,though the rumours werent all that active back then.

The rumours concerning Aquilani's move to Juventus arent that strong either,but its not impossible provided that we are ready to offer a substantial sum(which Aquilani would be worth btw).Plus Aquilani comes across as someone extremley level headed,unlike De Rossi or Totti,so i doubt if his Roma ego would be too big to consider a move to Juventus.

This is one thing that you have to admire in Roma though..the manner in which their youth products develop..Totti,De Ross,Aquilani..It would certainly be a very fulfilling feeling being an integral part of a team with someone that you've trained with since your very first days at a club.

very strong, like the Milito deal. :burke: Well, it was true but Barca f*cked us. Can Inter do the same with Aquilani? maybe

Let's go for Balotelli.

anyway, Aquilani's thread will have more pages than a Cassano to Juve thread. :rulz:

 

[Dostoevsky]

They won`t sell Balotelli.It`s just media BS probably.

 

[Omair]

very strong, like the Milito deal. :burke: Well, it was true but Barca f*cked us. Can Inter do the same with Aquilani? maybe

Let's go for Balotelli.

anyway, Aquilani's thread will have more pages than a Cassano to Juve thread. :rulz:

well well well .. our informer is very confident here .. that means that we can all

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dance the juve dance

 

[lil zlatan]

I want Alessandro Rosina and Ivan Obolo.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

They won`t sell Balotelli.It`s just media BS probably.

they should.

isn't he italian?

 

[Alen]

Palladino must prove himself first.This year he was really bad.Ranieri`s fault.

But you forget that if Ranieri didn't play Palla as a winger, he wouldn't have played him at all.
With Trez scoring a lot, with Del Piero living his second youth and with Iaquinta playing some top footy, Palladino would have spent the entire season on the bench because we really don't need a 4th striker when the other 3 are doing a great job.
This way at least he's getting some playing time.
Plus, he's been a disaster in those 2 or 3 matches where he played as a striker.

So, what's better : not playing at all or playing out of your original position and getting a spot in the National team ?
Actually, Palladino should even be thankfull to Ranieri because if it was any other coach he wouldn't have played at all.

 

[Sadomin]

I want Alessandro Rosina and Ivan Obolo.

Very funny.

 

[RAMI-N]

they should.

isn't he italian?

I want VDV...Giovinco can play in Diego's position...we just need Ranieri to be less stubborn with his ugly 4-4-2

 

[Dostoevsky]

they should.

isn't he italian?

I forgot about that.

But you forget that if Ranieri didn't play Palla as a winger, he wouldn't have played him at all.
With Trez scoring a lot, with Del Piero living his second youth and with Iaquinta playing some top footy, Palladino would have spent the entire season on the bench because we really don't need a 4th striker when the other 3 are doing a great job.
This way at least he's getting some playing time.
Plus, he's been a disaster in those 2 or 3 matches where he played as a striker.

So, what's better : not playing at all or playing out of your original position and getting a spot in the National team ?
Actually, Palladino should even be thankfull to Ranieri because if it was any other coach he wouldn't have played at all.

It`s fine to play him sometimes but sometimes it`s better to keep him on the bench rather then letting him play and ruin everything out there for what?To get NT call up?

 

[Alen]

It`s fine to play him sometimes but sometimes it`s better to keep him on the bench rather then letting him play and ruin everything out there for what?To get NT call up?

Yeah, that's ok, but you said it's Ranieri's fault that Palladino is playing bad while i only mentioned the fact that Palladino wouldn't have played at all if he didn't play as a winger.

I'm really surprised how this forum treats Ranieri. There were episodes where he made big mistakes. The last one was against Napoli where he started with a very stupid 3-4-1-2.
I was shocked to see that instead of criticizing him, guys here actually praised him for using an attacking formation
And on the other hand, he's constantly being attacked and insulted for some things that aren't his fault at all.
Your remark about Palladino is a perfect example :

1. Palladino plays as a winger and we get : Ranieri is ruining him because he's playing him out of position.
Here, as i mentioned, you forgot to say that if he won't play as a winger he won't get any chances to play at all.

But if :
2. Palladino doesn't play as a winger and plays as a striker we'll get : Ranieri is ruining our team and he lets Palla play instead of Del Piero/Trezeguet

Or if :
3. Palladino won't play at all because he's inferior to our other attackers and he's not a good winger, we'll get: Ranieri is ruining Palladino because he's not playing him at all. Ranieri and our board are liars because they said they'll give chances to our youngsters and they aren't giving them.

It's a lose/lose situation for Ranieri and i wonder what's Your solution guys? What would you do with Palladino if you were in Ranieri's place ?

Critics and credits where it's due. That's all i'd like to see here. Is it so hard ?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yeah, that's ok, but you said it's Ranieri's fault that Palladino is playing bad while i only mentioned the fact that Palladino wouldn't have played at all if he didn't play as a winger.

I'm really surprised how this forum treats Ranieri. There were episodes where he made big mistakes. The last one was against Napoli where he started with a very stupid 3-4-1-2.
I was shocked to see that instead of criticizing him, guys here actually praised him for using an attacking formation
And on the other hand, he's constantly being attacked and insulted for some things that aren't his fault at all.
Your remark about Palladino is a perfect example :

1. Palladino plays as a winger and we get : Ranieri is ruining him because he's playing him out of position.
Here, as i mentioned, you forgot to say that if he won't play as a winger he won't get any chances to play at all.

But if :
2. Palladino doesn't play as a winger and plays as a striker we'll get : Ranieri is ruining our team and he lets Palla play instead of Del Piero/Trezeguet

Or if :
3. Palladino won't play at all because he's inferior to our other attackers and he's not a good winger, we'll get: Ranieri is ruining Palladino because he's not playing him at all. Ranieri and our board are liars because they said they'll give chances to our youngsters and they aren't giving them.

It's a lose/lose situation for Ranieri and i wonder what's Your solution guys? What would you do with Palladino if you were in Ranieri's place ?

Critics and credits where it's due. That's all i'd like to see here. Is it so hard ?

Alen,many times you defended Ranieri so it`s maybe pointless to argue with you on this on since you`ll probably defend him no matter what happens.

Palla can play as in 4-3-3 sometimes,yes.Few times he did play solid there.I`d play him there I guess...sometimes.

Yes,I am saying that he`s ruining him by the fact that he let him play sometimes even if there`s no need by benching wrong player of course and also keeps playing him as AML where he can`t do anything.He can`t do anything 1 on 1 since his dribblings are pointless in most of the cases.

You think he is winger and it`s fine to play him there and it`s not Ranieri`s fault for his awful matches?Almiron is MC also but I can just blame Ranieri for his bad matches.He was one of the best players in Serie A last year.

It`s not everything in position...Ranieri doesn`t know how to use him.Palladino have potential to be great but if this continues he`ll choke.

 

[Franky4Fingers]

Yeah, that's ok, but you said it's Ranieri's fault that Palladino is playing bad while i only mentioned the fact that Palladino wouldn't have played at all if he didn't play as a winger.

I'm really surprised how this forum treats Ranieri. There were episodes where he made big mistakes. The last one was against Napoli where he started with a very stupid 3-4-1-2.
I was shocked to see that instead of criticizing him, guys here actually praised him for using an attacking formation
And on the other hand, he's constantly being attacked and insulted for some things that aren't his fault at all.
Your remark about Palladino is a perfect example :

1. Palladino plays as a winger and we get : Ranieri is ruining him because he's playing him out of position.
Here, as i mentioned, you forgot to say that if he won't play as a winger he won't get any chances to play at all.

But if :
2. Palladino doesn't play as a winger and plays as a striker we'll get : Ranieri is ruining our team and he lets Palla play instead of Del Piero/Trezeguet

Or if :
3. Palladino won't play at all because he's inferior to our other attackers and he's not a good winger, we'll get: Ranieri is ruining Palladino because he's not playing him at all. Ranieri and our board are liars because they said they'll give chances to our youngsters and they aren't giving them.

It's a lose/lose situation for Ranieri and i wonder what's Your solution guys? What would you do with Palladino if you were in Ranieri's place ?

Critics and credits where it's due. That's all i'd like to see here. Is it so hard ?

I totally agree with you here!

 

[Alen]

Alen,many times you defended Ranieri so it`s maybe pointless to argue with you on this on since you`ll probably defend him no matter what happens.

Like i said previously :

Critics and credits where it's due.

I've defended him ONLY when i've seen that people attack him just for the sake of it, while in reality he did well.
I've attacked him just as many times. Twice i even lost my mind and i even insulted him.

So the only pointless thing was done by me, and that is my attempt to try to discuss Ranieri with you.
Because, Dule, you're the one between the two of us who is biased in this discussion about Ranieri. You attack him no matter what, while i defend him and attack him, depending on his performances as a coach.

Palla can play as in 4-3-3 sometimes,yes.Few times he did play solid there.I`d play him there I guess...sometimes.

Yes,I am saying that he`s ruining him by the fact that he let him play sometimes even if there`s no need by benching wrong player of course and also keeps playing him as AML where he can`t do anything.He can`t do anything 1 on 1 since his dribblings are pointless in most of the cases.

You think he is winger and it`s fine to play him there and it`s not Ranieri`s fault for his awful matches?Almiron is MC also but I can just blame Ranieri for his bad matches.He was one of the best players in Serie A last year.

It`s not everything in position...Ranieri doesn`t know how to use him.Palladino have potential to be great but if this continues he`ll choke.

I didn't quite get the point here. Actually, i think you didn't get my point so i'll just drop it for now.

I only want to ask why when certain players aren't performing it's Ranieri's fault but when certain players play the best football of their lives, it's not Ranieri who deserves the credit ?
The way Chiellini was transformed from a LB to one of the best central defenders in Italy, Iaquinta's (or as our great scouts here called him, Faquinta) form and coaches decission to put him in just so Iaquinta will decide the match, Sissoko (or Shitsoko, as the same scouts called him) making an immediate impact..... why isn't Ranieri getting the credit for these 3 but he's being attacked all the time for Tiago and Almiron ?

 

[Dostoevsky]

You attack him no matter what, while i defend him and attack him, depending on his performances as a coach.

I only want to ask why when certain players aren't performing it's Ranieri's fault but when certain players play the best football of their lives, it's not Ranieri who deserves the credit ?
The way Chiellini was transformed from a LB to one of the best central defenders in Italy, Iaquinta's (or as our great scouts here called him, Faquinta) form and coaches decission to put him in just so Iaquinta will decide the match, Sissoko (or Shitsoko, as the same scouts called him) making an immediate impact..... why isn't Ranieri getting the credit for these 3 but he's being attacked all the time for Tiago and Almiron ?

That`s not true.I was one of the few Ranieri haters should I say who defended few times Ranieri also when he deserved it.

Few times I gave him high rating after some match and said he has done a good job.I did say that I`m grateful to him for discovering Chiellini`s new position.I also say Sissoko was a good buy.

 

[juve-a'frik]

Nice one bringing up this issue.
To your first comment:
We know DP and T-rez are playing well this season and also Iaquinta, but the fact still remains that if our team were more balanced [I wonder why this is so hard if it wasnt for Ranieri's bad substitute and the boards awful signings] we could afford to use a guy like Palla that many consider as one of the emerging talents in Italian football. We see this case everytime when Barca play Bojan in big matches-in his true position, hell he has even started some matches. So Ranieri's ruining him.

To your second comment:
I think most of the people on this forum are nearly level headed [every now and then our emotions take the better of us], so I think they'll understand that the young chap has just gotta play.

To you third comment:
How do you define inferior, this guy's younger than the rest of our strikers, he hasn't achieved as much as they have, my God this dude's a budding star, you couldnt pile all that Pato pressure on his young shoulders, we're not that desperate [yet]. Hes not that bad a winger, he's miles better than Nocerino.

Ranieri played 3-4-2-1? doesnt he know he doesnt have the qualities to execute that kind of formation?

Conclusion:
Ranieri ruins him because the old moose doesn't know when, how or who to change anytime he wants to, and hes esposing the boy to alot of criticsms playing him out of position that people start to even doubt his abilities as a striker, and he's not inferior to our other srikers, hes learning, and we should encourage him more by giving him playing time in his natural position. I hope we never have to rely on other clubs everytime we need players, we should start learning to trust and use our own reservoirs.
Palladino would be a great striker if we invested more in him, he has shown he has the qualities, what more do you, Ruinieri, and the board want...give us back our young players, they're our future.