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I tell you why english player are overrated and are expensive. Because there is a very little about of english talent. THEY HAVE NO TALENTED PLAYERS, look at their goalie he makes mistake after mistakes and he is still in goal.
I agree with u that Mourinho has the leadership that Juve need. But like I said I would feel sorry for him that is all.
Well Im a Juve fan & I'd love Mourinho here. He's a winner, with more than one playing style. If he can lead Porto to the CL, we'd all love some of that! Our history proves that lo scudetto will always find its way onto the bianconero shirt. Winning the CL is our holy grail, no doubt, & anyone who gives us a better chance of glory there is welcome. I dont see that in Ranieri, but Jose has exactly the proven European record of success we crave. See the picture in my avatar?
Its too damn long ago!
Its too damn long ago!
What proven record in CL?
He won once, wich was a great achievement, but was never able to repeat that performance with one of the best teams in the world.If you want a coach who has proven himself in CL, root for Ancelotti. Also Rijkaard will be leaving Barca the end of the year. Lippi wants to get back to work. Those are coaches who have won with a top side, which is way different then coaching a somewhat smaller team with little expectations.
Mourinho is an arrogant asshole, a sore loser who tends to blaim everyone but himself and he thinks he is more important than anyone, including the team he coaches.
He won once, wich was a great achievement, but was never able to repeat that performance with one of the best teams in the world.If you want a coach who has proven himself in CL, root for Ancelotti. Also Rijkaard will be leaving Barca the end of the year. Lippi wants to get back to work. Those are coaches who have won with a top side, which is way different then coaching a somewhat smaller team with little expectations.
Mourinho is an arrogant asshole, a sore loser who tends to blaim everyone but himself and he thinks he is more important than anyone, including the team he coaches.
Ancellotti proven in CL? A win on away goals in San Siro v Inter before pens v us, then blowing a 3-0 HT lead? Not to mention being perennial 2nd place in the league. Oh yeah, he won CL last year, after totally sacrificing Serie position & resting players ahead of knock out games. His players won it last year as revenge for 2005. I can see Jose isn't to your taste, fair enough, but if you cant see the arrogance & self-promotion is done to protect his team, building a seige mentality, much the same as Alex Ferguson has done over 20 years at Manchester, or Brian Clough at Nottingham, or Lippi in last years WC, or Capello at Madrid. Riijkaards asst (Ten Cate) was far more influential, see the struggles since he left? The best winners are sore losers, because they hate losing, in most sports, where there is heavy competition, the biggest winners will always be the worst losers. Schumacher, Senna, Alonso, McEnroe, Connors, Becker, Effenburg, Maradona, Cantona, the list is endless. You see arrogant asshole, I see hallmark of greatness.
Ancelotti won it twice in the last 5 years, so yeah he's proven. And the fact that he sacrificed serie a to win the cl must suit you, considering the fact that that's your holy grail.
There is a difference in being a sore loser and being a sore loser while not taking any blaim. I hate losing too but i'm able to see why I've lost, Mourinho isn't.
And you can't compare Mourinho with the likes of Lippi when it comes to arrogance, Mourinho is in a league of is own. Does Lippi calls himself the special one??? I'm from Amsterdam, a city which is is famous for it's arrogance, but i've never heard anyone calling himself the special one.
And if Jose can't win it with Chelsea, what makes you believe he can with Juve?
There is a difference in being a sore loser and being a sore loser while not taking any blaim. I hate losing too but i'm able to see why I've lost, Mourinho isn't.
And you can't compare Mourinho with the likes of Lippi when it comes to arrogance, Mourinho is in a league of is own. Does Lippi calls himself the special one??? I'm from Amsterdam, a city which is is famous for it's arrogance, but i've never heard anyone calling himself the special one.
And if Jose can't win it with Chelsea, what makes you believe he can with Juve?
What success? He never even got in the final of the CL with chelski! And that's what you're aiming at, and that's what he was aiming at. He won the premier league, with a team put together with a shitload of cash. I know that's not a guarantee for success, but it sure is a big head start.
A club should get a coach who fits in the atmosphere of the club, and Mourinho simply doesn't. You know that too. You are just blinded by the fact he won the CL once, with Porto. But everytime he got kicked out of the same competition, it was becouse of the ref, or the fact he only had 10 men on the pitch, or some other shit excuse.
And he does believe he is the special one, he fucking breathes out arrogance everytime you see him, even when he's not aware he's on camera. You can't play a role 24 hours a day.
A club should get a coach who fits in the atmosphere of the club, and Mourinho simply doesn't. You know that too. You are just blinded by the fact he won the CL once, with Porto. But everytime he got kicked out of the same competition, it was becouse of the ref, or the fact he only had 10 men on the pitch, or some other shit excuse.
And he does believe he is the special one, he fucking breathes out arrogance everytime you see him, even when he's not aware he's on camera. You can't play a role 24 hours a day.
Love to know how many times you've met Jose off camera? He was on tv what, 3 hrs a day tops? De Niro would love to know you cant act for that long Im sure. If you think arrogance doesnt suit our club then you cant have followed us long, yes we've had true gents like Agnelli, Scirea, Charles, Baggio, Del Piero. We've also had arrogance aplenty from Moggi, Bettega, Platini, Zlatan, Zidane, Davids, Vialli & so on. It works both ways.
Mourinho's main task at Chelsea, I believe was to win EPL, they hadn't won it for 50-odd years, so only last season did he fail his task in Europe after they changed priorities. He needed the amount of cash as they had such a poor team when he went there. Ranieri had the same oppourtunity & blew it, big time
Mourinho's main task at Chelsea, I believe was to win EPL, they hadn't won it for 50-odd years, so only last season did he fail his task in Europe after they changed priorities. He needed the amount of cash as they had such a poor team when he went there. Ranieri had the same oppourtunity & blew it, big time
You think Zlatan was a big success at Juve? He is despised nowadays! Davids isn't arrogant, he is the opposite, he works his ass of in favour of others so they can shine.
Ofcourse you'll always have a factor of arrogance in a club, but the coach/manager is the face of the club. And he can't be the face of Juve.
De Niro is an actor for profession, and yes I am aware of his method acting, but I've never seen Mourinho in hollywood. Strange comparison.
When mourinho is on cam during a match or whatever, his arrogance is just pooring out of him.
Look, I'm the first to say I personally just don't like Mourinho, but he isn't a Juve kind a guy. Is he really your fist choice when it comes to a new manager? He is hardly a guarantee for success in the CL, the tournament you want Juve to excel. Put some faith in Ranieri, he is exceeding all our expectations for now.
Ofcourse you'll always have a factor of arrogance in a club, but the coach/manager is the face of the club. And he can't be the face of Juve.
De Niro is an actor for profession, and yes I am aware of his method acting, but I've never seen Mourinho in hollywood. Strange comparison.
When mourinho is on cam during a match or whatever, his arrogance is just pooring out of him.
Look, I'm the first to say I personally just don't like Mourinho, but he isn't a Juve kind a guy. Is he really your fist choice when it comes to a new manager? He is hardly a guarantee for success in the CL, the tournament you want Juve to excel. Put some faith in Ranieri, he is exceeding all our expectations for now.
Who said success, I said arrogant, but now you mention it we won 2 scudetti with him. Davids not arrogant? Ask Lippi & the triade about that "pay me same as Del Piero & Zidane or Im off", or maybe Hiddink at Euro 96 "Hiddink must take his head out of players' asses, so he can see better", not arrogant at all our Edgar
Why?
Thats my point - on camera
Not a Juve kinda guy? Just dont get that. Is he my 1st choice? Oh hell yes, & hardly think Im alone somehow
Why?
Thats my point - on camera
Not a Juve kinda guy? Just dont get that. Is he my 1st choice? Oh hell yes, & hardly think Im alone somehow
The question was, does arrogance and Juve go well together. I think not.
Ow, and yoú are telling me he knows excactly when he gets aired when he is on the bench? Think not. There is a camera on you the entire game, that's some acting!
The coach, the face of a club, should represent what the club stands for. That's the reason he doesn't fit in at Juve. Mourinho is only able to represent himself.
Davids was the engine of the Juve midfield back in the day. In my opinion he was entitled to a good salary. In that case Del P is arrogant too, he refused to earn less even though he couldn't bring the same as some years ago.
By the way, Davids was young back then. Everybody makes mistakes when he's young. And he apologised to Hiddink for what he did at that championship.
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion, so are you and so am I. I just hope your wish never happens. And for now I'd like to see what Ranieri can bring us. Let's start wishing for a new manager the moment we need to.
I really like a good arguing from time to time, but i'm gonna eat now and drink after. Let's meet and argue another day alright?
Ow, and yoú are telling me he knows excactly when he gets aired when he is on the bench? Think not. There is a camera on you the entire game, that's some acting!
The coach, the face of a club, should represent what the club stands for. That's the reason he doesn't fit in at Juve. Mourinho is only able to represent himself.
Davids was the engine of the Juve midfield back in the day. In my opinion he was entitled to a good salary. In that case Del P is arrogant too, he refused to earn less even though he couldn't bring the same as some years ago.
By the way, Davids was young back then. Everybody makes mistakes when he's young. And he apologised to Hiddink for what he did at that championship.
Everybody's entitled to their own opinion, so are you and so am I. I just hope your wish never happens. And for now I'd like to see what Ranieri can bring us. Let's start wishing for a new manager the moment we need to.
I really like a good arguing from time to time, but i'm gonna eat now and drink after. Let's meet and argue another day alright?
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