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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Yeah I remember that but, I remember there being more to that. I don't have the exact quote but, he said I would stay with Juve all the way to Serie C but, he can't risk his career since he only has a couple of good years left and he doesn't know when Juve will be out of Serie B.
His comment means jack squat then.
 
Sep 26, 2007
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He loved us so much that after a full two years (oh my God that's forever) he walked out on us...





And don't let your Azzurri bias rule you.
He loved us because of what we gave him after his stint at Inter. I will not believe he "lied" to us. He had to do what he had to do for his career. He was what 32 then. He was not young and I respect what he did.

I love Canna and if I am having Azzurri bias so be it.
 

Bjerknes

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He loved us because of what we gave him after his stint at Inter. I will not believe he "lied" to us. He had to do what he had to do for his career. He was what 32 then. He was not young and I respect what he did.

I love Canna and if I am having Azzurri bias so be it.
It would make more sense if he was a young Cannavaro to leave, not someone who was on his last legs of his career.
 
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It would make more sense if he was a young Cannavaro to leave, not someone who was on his last legs of his career.
Young Canna would make sense for him to stay because he still had the time left in his career to play in top leagues but, at the height of his career he is supposed to spend his last two or three years for all he knows playing up to Serie A? That wouldn't make sense. Is he supposed to finish his career in Serie B? I don't think so. He didn't know we would only be relegated to Serie B because I think if he had known it might have been different.
 

Bjerknes

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Young Canna would make sense for him to stay because he still had the time left in his career to play in top leagues but, at the height of his career he is supposed to spend his last two or three years for all he knows playing up to Serie A? That wouldn't make sense. Is he supposed to finish his career in Serie B? I don't think so. He didn't know we would only be relegated to Serie B because I think if he had known it might have been different.
So why didn't Del Piero, Nedved, Camoranesi, Trezeguet, Buffon, etc leave then? How about Zanetti, among others? These players decided to stay on despite the relegation and despite there only being a few good remaining years in their careers.

I'm sorry, but with those players deciding to stay on, forming perhaps the best squad ever in Serie B, Cannavaro has no excuse in my opinion.
 
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So why didn't Del Piero, Nedved, Camoranesi, Trezeguet, Buffon, etc leave then? How about Zanetti, among others? These players decided to stay on despite the relegation and despite there only being a few good remaining years in their careers.

I'm sorry, but with those players deciding to stay on, forming perhaps the best squad ever in Serie B, Cannavaro has no excuse in my opinion.
For the most part, most of them didn't mind risking their careers . Del Piero was not in his prime and well he can't leave Juve. Buffon has another good couple of years on his career so he can't really be considered considering he is a goalie and goalies have longer careers.

On top of all that, Juve couldn't keep all their players they had to sell some to make money from all the money they were to lose from being relegated. So some of the greats had to leave.

This is a hopeless argument because I will never change my mind about Canna I'll be standing by him until the end.
 

chester

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May 20, 2006
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So why didn't Del Piero, Nedved, Camoranesi, Trezeguet, Buffon, etc leave then? How about Zanetti, among others? These players decided to stay on despite the relegation and despite there only being a few good remaining years in their careers.

I'm sorry, but with those players deciding to stay on, forming perhaps the best squad ever in Serie B, Cannavaro has no excuse in my opinion.
Gigi, Dp and Neddie yes, i agree with you, ntohing but respect for them.
With regard to Trez and Camo, if given the chance, they might have just left, if we accepted the offers for them but we didn't.
Zanetti was a new signing so he knew he wouldn't be sold.

With regard to Canna, I tend to agree with donna, he doesn't have much years left and then getting the option to play for a team like Real is to tempting to refuse at his age.
 

Bjerknes

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If he wanted to leave... fine. Just don't come out and state that you're going to be with us through thick and thin, pledging your alligence. That's what you call lying.
 

chester

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May 20, 2006
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True, but there is a difference between what the player said and what has appeared in the press.
During that periode, so much appeared in the press, no one can tell what were real interviews and what weren't, it was easy for newspapers to make up stories about us and our players.
 

HelterSkelter

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Apr 15, 2005
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Trezeguet and Camoranesi wanted to leave too,but they were kept at Juventus against their wishes initially.Had the board forced Cannavaro to stay,would he be a hero like Trezeguet and Camo too?I think it comes down to who the board wanted to keep and who they could afford to sell.If peopel call Cannavaro a traitor,which i dont agree with,then maybe Trezeguet and Camoranesi should be called traitors too because they wanted to leave too.The fact that they werent sold was down to the board's decision to not accept any offers for them,not the initial prefernce of Trezeguet and Camoranesi themselves.

Personally,I wouldnt have called Trezeguet and Camoraensi traitors had they left,but there's a thin line seperating their situation and Cannavaro's situation.The board could have not accepted offers for him exctly the same way it chose to do in Trezeguet and Camoranesi's case,but it didnt do so.
 

chester

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May 20, 2006
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Trezeguet and Camoranesi wanted to leave too,but they were kept at Juventus against their wishes initially.Had the board forced Cannavaro to stay,would he be a hero like Trezeguet and Camo too?I think it comes down to who the board wanted to keep and who they could afford to sell.If peopel call Cannavaro a traitor,which i dont agree with,then maybe Trezeguet and Camoranesi should be called traitors too because they wanted to leave too.The fact that they werent sold was down to the board's decision to not accept any offers for them,not the initial prefernce of Trezeguet and Camoranesi themselves.

Personally,I wouldnt have called Trezeguet and Camoraensi traitors had they left,but there's a thin line seperating their situation and Cannavaro situation.The board could have not accepted offers for him exctly the same way it chose to do in Trezeguet and Camoranesi's case,but it didnt do so.
:agree:
Couldn't have said it better.
 

Jim_Boi

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Oct 7, 2007
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If Trezeguet and Camoranesi had really wanted to leave the club they would have forced their way out. Just like Ibrahimovic did, nowadays a contracts mean nothing. Trezeguet and Camoranesi could have easily forced a move but they didn't and i give them a lot of credit for sticking with Juve until the end. About Cannavaro we all know that he wants to win the Champions League and that is the main factor why he moved to Real Madrid, to win it. I like Cannavaro and consider him one of the best defenders and I don't know whether or not Cannavaro did say that he would stay with Juve even if they were demoted, but IF he did then i would call him a liar.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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I would take Zambrotta back in a heart beat. I don't hold a grudge against him for leaving. He was in the prime of his career, and he had to do what he had to do. He felt betrayed by his club for what happened, so how can you blame him? It was a hard time for all Juve fans seeing your favorite players leaving and seeing your team going to Serie B. I'm sure it was just as hard to leave a team you loved for 7 years so bring on the Zambrotta please. Now he just needs to want to come to us.
He felt betrayed? Did Juve fans betray him? Did Juve players betray him? The answer is No... If he thinks anyone betrayed him then thats no one but the board.. [thats INCASE they're involved]

Why Del Piero didn't felt betrayed, why Gigi didn't? Nedved, Trezeguet, Mauro...? we're talking about world champions here who didn't feel betrayed.

I have nothing with the likes of Emerson, Vieira, Zlatan, they can soap it for all I care...They mean nothing to me as Juventino but normal players who come and go.

But the likes of Zambrotta was brought into lights thanks to Juventus.... after all these years he couldn't handle 1 year in Serie B? Thats not a reason to state that you're betrayed and leave the team that turned you into world class player and one of the best. FFS, he was even wearing the Captain armband when Del Piero was out.
 

Azzurri7

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Oh and about Cannavaro, he can soap it aswell and remain in Spain. I have nothing against him. But I'm not into players who do insult their fans.

So Cannavaro and Zambrotta, both of them can stay out of Turin. Or else Cobolli should be shot.
 
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