The...I want this player to Juve thread (24 Viewers)

[Mike-e-y]

Than go watch Barcelona. Juventus is not going to change because you want them to. I beleive in our way. You want our way to be your way. Sorry, I wont support that.

WHAT??? stop telling people to watch other clubs you idiot. you mentioned how 4-3-3 isnt a success and mark, #10 and myself have proved you wrong, he isnt saying that barca are the best team in the world and that he loves them he is just proving you wrong, yet again you cant accept this

 

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[#10]

I thought in the game Vs. Barca, Robinho really showed a lot of defensive skill. It was just one game, but I must assume he would be able to continue that at our club. Ribery is one of our best options right now.

Robinho is far too slight for such a role imho. Plus he has been a SS his entire carer, drifting out to wide forward was natural, but tracking back to defend will take a lo away from his attacking prowess.

 

[tonykart]

Tony , JuveAdam has a very good arguement. YOU should accept it.

He mentioned about 10 years of football history. Until he finds more, the point is moot. Regardless, what people don't understand is that Juventus will not change their tactics and SHOULDN't chage their tactic because the stupid fans think so. Juventus' role in football history is much greater than just hopping on the bandwagon. Besides, I would like to check out the National opinion, because I know what all my Italian family members think. Like it or not, that IS what counts most.

 

[tonykart]

Robinho is far too slight for such a role imho. Plus he has been a SS his entire carer, drifting out to wide forward was natural, but tracking back to defend will take a lo away from his attacking prowess.

True. We need to look at more options at the SM role though. Ribery may not choose Juventus.

 

[Mike-e-y]

He mentioned about 10 years of football history. Until he finds more, the point is moot. Regardless, what people don't understand is that Juventus will not change their tactics and SHOULDN't chage their tactic because the stupid fans think so. Juventus' role in football history is much greater than just hopping on the bandwagon. Besides, I would like to check out the National opinion, because I know what all my Italian family members think. Like it or not, that IS what counts most.

if every human being though like you and your family we would still be living in caves

 

[tonykart]

if every human being though like you and your family we would still be living in caves

Good one.

 

[tonykart]

Besides, what if Camoranesi leaves. Then we need a ton of help on the flanks and we will be in serious trouble.

 

[Mike-e-y]

Good one.

well its true, if bill gates thought "the computer industry is like this has always been like this and shouldnt change" you wouldnt be here communicating with us today, which on second thought would not be a bad result

 

[tonykart]

well its true, if bill gates thought "the computer industry is like this has always been like this and shouldnt change you wouldnt be here communicating with us today, which on second thought would not be a bad result

That is a terrible example. Stop trying to think you are progressive by desiring an attacking juventus. Attacking play isn't a NEW idea. It is a different one, preferred by many. Ok Mike "DA DON". Home slice.

 

[#10]

Juve have changed their system in the past many a time. The core fact is hard work and organisation not 433, 442, 451 whatever.

We won the Cl using 433, we dominated with zidane in a 4312,recently we have done well with 442

All systems have worked. What we have to ensure is that we can defend, with good defenders, work hard and provide an organise team. From there we must be able to attack. The formation is irrelevant, as long as we have a compotant back 4 and a holding midfielder.

 

[Marc]

Than go watch Barcelona. Juventus is not going to change because you want them to. I beleive in our way. You want our way to be your way. Sorry, I wont support that.

Jesus fucking Christ, I used it as a comparison in defense of their offensive tactics which YOU said it doesn´t work. How does it not work then if they won more titles than us ? WTF are you talking about ? I choosed Juve for my club years ago and I choosed to defend them and love them in any situation and I will always do so. I don´t know what is your problem though. I don´t care if our playing style changes or not, I´m not supporting them because I´m crazy about sexy football, it´s about the club. You, on the other side are so biased that you probably wouldn´t support Juventus anymore if we had 11 foreigners in the squad. And what influence do you have on our style? What, because you love it, you think it won´t change ? Who are you to predict the future ? Get a life.

 

[Lion]

Besides, what if Camoranesi leaves. Then we need a ton of help on the flanks and we will be in serious trouble.

We have Brazzo and Marchionni

 

[Mike-e-y]

That is a terrible example. Stop trying to think you are progressive by desiring an attacking juventus. Attacking play isn't a NEW idea. It is a different one, preferred by many. Ok Mike "DA DON". Home slice.

tony your a fool, and because you refuse to change your opinion you will always be a fool. in football there is no such thing as a new idea, if we keep playing with the "same" system and always play with this "same" system teams will work us out and play to our weknesses as is happening with arsenal, they have always played flair football, but because of their lack of change they are now suffering for it because teams hustle them.

whether you want to believe it or not juventus have also changed their system over the years with lippi playing different to crap and dd playing differently to both of them. What a few people here are saying is next season is time for a change because our system and players will no longer fit that method of playing as a result of players we will more than likely purchase.

I'm glad you show me some respect

 

[tonykart]

Juve have changed their system in the past many a time. The core fact is hard work and organisation not 433, 442, 451 whatever.

We won the Cl using 433, we dominated with zidane in a 4312,recently we have done well with 442

All systems have worked. What we have to ensure is that we can defend, with good defenders, work hard and provide an organise team. From there we must be able to attack. The formation is irrelevant, as long as we have a compotant back 4 and a holding midfielder.

I would agree with most of that. I wouldn't mind the 4312 but we have no Zidane. Juve is unsexy, defense first, build it up from the back. No matter how bad people want it to change it WONT. nor should it. Get over yourselves. Accept the Juve way.

 

[tonykart]

We have Brazzo and Marchionni

eh... im not so confident.

 

[tonykart]

So lets be smart an think in the NOW. DD plays 4-4-1-1. We have some holes. Who do we want to fill them. Not change them.

 

[Mike-e-y]

Accept the Juve way.

there is no such thing!!!!!!!!!! we play how the coaches want to play not as a result of what we have played in the past!!!!!

 

[#10]

I would agree with most of that. I wouldn't mind the 4312 but we have no Zidane. Juve is unsexy, defense first, build it up from the back. No matter how bad people want it to change it WONT. nor should it. Get over yourselves. Accept the Juve way.

Tony i hope end bit wasnt aimed at me, as i have tried to be accepting and thought we were finally making progress.

No we have no Zidane, as we discussed earlier there arent many playmakers abouts.

Imho the future is the total midfielder who can attack and defend, Like Gerrard, Lampard and Sneijder (pushing the boat there.)

We havent in the las few years built it from the back, we merely smashed the ball up the pitch hoping trez/zlat could do something with it, that ISNT juve.

 

[Lion]

I would agree with most of that. I wouldn't mind the 4312 but we have no Zidane. Juve is unsexy, defense first, build it up from the back. No matter how bad people want it to change it WONT. nor should it. Get over yourselves. Accept the Juve way.

Ideas, Ideologies, tactics, systems, values change over time. that is a fact of life.

A total football Juve is not out of the question. and it can work. That is proven as well.

eh... im not so confident.

Brazzo is just as good if not better than Camo

 

[#10]

Defensively id agree regarding brazzo and Camo.