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The Tacchinardi situation is still a bit blurry. Who knows if he will be here next year. If so, we will have Zanetti, Tacchinardi, and Paro. Good, not great, but I think one stout player would serve us well here. I am a big Donadel fan, but I haven't heard anything about his availability.
As far as Nedved's backup is concerned. Ribery would be my first choice. Then maybe Robinho, Esposito, or Quaresma. Although the player I would love to see here would be D'Agostino. But, Udinese would not let him go cheaply if at all.
As far as Nedved's backup is concerned. Ribery would be my first choice. Then maybe Robinho, Esposito, or Quaresma. Although the player I would love to see here would be D'Agostino. But, Udinese would not let him go cheaply if at all.
D'agostino was/is Roma scum isnt he?
Esposito would only be an option in my eyes is he was on the cheap.
Robinho would be magical, but he would be Dp's heir not a winger.
Tachi imho could still serve as a back up for us, Paro and Zannetti can hold the one DMF spot, as imho playing two defensive dmf's hinder out attacking play.
Donadel is the italian Pedretti.
Esposito would only be an option in my eyes is he was on the cheap.
Robinho would be magical, but he would be Dp's heir not a winger.
Tachi imho could still serve as a back up for us, Paro and Zannetti can hold the one DMF spot, as imho playing two defensive dmf's hinder out attacking play.
Donadel is the italian Pedretti.
Imho the serie a sides have plenty of Dmf's, in the past we have had too many, suffering from a lack of creativity, especially for such a big side.
If we had a CMF would posed an attacking threat along side a full time DMF, that would be much more beneficial. But as we operate two dmfs, not even a regista, imho out attacking play is limited.
Diarra and Gilberto are great options, but why look to invest soo much there when we have paro and marchiso along with tachi, zanetti and Gianichedda there who can all do the destroyer job.
What we lack imho is an AMF/Cmf general to dictate and create from the middle of the park.
If we had a CMF would posed an attacking threat along side a full time DMF, that would be much more beneficial. But as we operate two dmfs, not even a regista, imho out attacking play is limited.
Diarra and Gilberto are great options, but why look to invest soo much there when we have paro and marchiso along with tachi, zanetti and Gianichedda there who can all do the destroyer job.
What we lack imho is an AMF/Cmf general to dictate and create from the middle of the park.
imo DMF is not the problem here.Getting a decent CMF next to him is the problem.But there are some good ones out there.The key is to invest in that position, someone that could hold the midfield day in and day out.
Next to him we have options like zanetti,gianni,tacchi, and even the much hated blasi.But most of the creative burden would on the the player next to those ones.
Next to him we have options like zanetti,gianni,tacchi, and even the much hated blasi.But most of the creative burden would on the the player next to those ones.
Just because he is from Roma, I wouldn't let that cloud my perception of reality. he is a very clever footballer. We could use him.
Cagliari is at the bottom of the table and I just threw his name out there, because he may leave at cost if Cagliari fall. Also, he has been injured for a long time and could be sold for cheap on that accout. Merely speculation... no more.
Robinho to me plays best on the wing. His defensive skills are a bit underated as is his long range passing. I personally don't think he has the right mentality to play as a trequarista. I would rather see a Cassano style player there. To me Cassano is the man to share time with DP.
Two DMF's to me is a good combination for our style of play. Paro is a creative player with the ball at his feet, but needs to toughen up to play in the next level. He isn't ready to play in a position that fits him well. In my opinion he had the chance this year to really claim a position on his own. He is too immature at this point. Good backup though. Zanetti and Tacchinardi are both sound players. I think this is a decent midfield combination, but of course adding a player like Gilberto would give us a nice element. Defensive midfielder who can support the attack. Something Paro should do. Zanetti can do that, but is better in a defensive role. Tacchinardi is a pure DMF in my opinion. I like him, but he will be 32 next year and replaceable.
Cagliari is at the bottom of the table and I just threw his name out there, because he may leave at cost if Cagliari fall. Also, he has been injured for a long time and could be sold for cheap on that accout. Merely speculation... no more.
Robinho to me plays best on the wing. His defensive skills are a bit underated as is his long range passing. I personally don't think he has the right mentality to play as a trequarista. I would rather see a Cassano style player there. To me Cassano is the man to share time with DP.
Two DMF's to me is a good combination for our style of play. Paro is a creative player with the ball at his feet, but needs to toughen up to play in the next level. He isn't ready to play in a position that fits him well. In my opinion he had the chance this year to really claim a position on his own. He is too immature at this point. Good backup though. Zanetti and Tacchinardi are both sound players. I think this is a decent midfield combination, but of course adding a player like Gilberto would give us a nice element. Defensive midfielder who can support the attack. Something Paro should do. Zanetti can do that, but is better in a defensive role. Tacchinardi is a pure DMF in my opinion. I like him, but he will be 32 next year and replaceable.
mate dont say that in here or ppl will try and shoot you in the head.
Anyway he did play some good games this season and was fairly good on most games i watched for the viola.
for creativity, i will consider Paro in that department but he will not have a full time job. Another player that i would i want to see in the team is Nocerino from Piacenza.
Then our starting player would be along the lines of mybe mavuba/montolivo and gerrard would be a dream.
Anyway he did play some good games this season and was fairly good on most games i watched for the viola.
for creativity, i will consider Paro in that department but he will not have a full time job. Another player that i would i want to see in the team is Nocerino from Piacenza.
Then our starting player would be along the lines of mybe mavuba/montolivo and gerrard would be a dream.
1) Everyone has their dislikes Tony...im sure have your reasons also.
2) Esposito is an option, no question about it.
3) Robinho is a dream, i would play wherever as long as we get the bst out of him. For me a wing forward supporting a bing man like Trez/Toni/Klose etc, would allow him to create for others.
4) Cassano can go to hell, i have argued many a time over Cassano and i havent changed my mind...not worth the effort
5) Two dmfs harks back to the old Crapello days, rigid and stale imho. If Paro was to act as a cmf, he maybe more affective. We need that extra dimension imho. Two dmf's would work if we play a full time fantasista.
2) Esposito is an option, no question about it.
3) Robinho is a dream, i would play wherever as long as we get the bst out of him. For me a wing forward supporting a bing man like Trez/Toni/Klose etc, would allow him to create for others.
4) Cassano can go to hell, i have argued many a time over Cassano and i havent changed my mind...not worth the effort
5) Two dmfs harks back to the old Crapello days, rigid and stale imho. If Paro was to act as a cmf, he maybe more affective. We need that extra dimension imho. Two dmf's would work if we play a full time fantasista.
Yeah, but if we move Nedved to the centre of midfield or place Ribery in the first 11 and give him freedom to create, we will benefit in attacking display. As a destroyer I would rotate Zanetti and for example, Gilberto. I don´t think Paro, Tacchinardi or Marchisio have enough quality to operate in the first team next season.
I agree to an extent. I think that we need a defensive midfielder who can support the attack with excellent passing and vision skills. Unfortunately, Paro has this potential, but is yet to truly excel. At the same time, this is only if Tacchinardi is staying. Most people feel he is leaving along with Giannichedda. I am counting on Zanetti and Paro to be here next year and that is it. If we hold onto Gianni or Tachi, then a more "balanced" CM would be a good choice.
As far as increasing our attack. I would advise to first make sure we are locking down our opponents. I beleive in the Lippi system. We should be able to win every game 1-0. We will guaranteed get at least 3 scoring chances a game no matter what. Good players like Nedved, Camoranesi, Del Piero and Trezeguet can make a few more chances on top of that. Regardless, we should never allow a goal. That needs to be the mentality. That is what it takes to win the scudetto.
Attacking will come naturally; formations and substitutions can be made to adjust tactics as well. But, first and foremost we most protect our net. Keep clean sheets. Shut down the opponent. And capitalize on their mistakes. That is the Lippi way. That is the Juventus way.
As far as increasing our attack. I would advise to first make sure we are locking down our opponents. I beleive in the Lippi system. We should be able to win every game 1-0. We will guaranteed get at least 3 scoring chances a game no matter what. Good players like Nedved, Camoranesi, Del Piero and Trezeguet can make a few more chances on top of that. Regardless, we should never allow a goal. That needs to be the mentality. That is what it takes to win the scudetto.
Attacking will come naturally; formations and substitutions can be made to adjust tactics as well. But, first and foremost we most protect our net. Keep clean sheets. Shut down the opponent. And capitalize on their mistakes. That is the Lippi way. That is the Juventus way.
That isnt the juventus way, that is the lippi way. In fact to be more accurate that is the crappello way. Which imho is out of date.
Defensively we need to be strong, in fact its core.
But operating one full time dmf is enough, witht the cmf helping out also, along with the wide men tracking the full backs.
However just hoping to convert 1 of three chances is narrow minded imho.
Modern teams do not need two full time DMFs, a holding midfielder combinded with a hardowrking cmf will do the job.
Defending is a team job, thus two men shouldnt be responsible for defending of the defence.
Imho attacking doesnt come naturally, it takes skill and guile to create goals, and in europe we have lacked that recently.
From what i have read you are a fan of the Cappello system, which is respectable, but im not a subscriber to that ethos. A more fluid 433 would be ideal, but that would neve happen.
P.S imho in a 433 you COULD operate the twin DMF system.
4-3-3.
I won't even comment on that.
I am a fan of the Lippi system. Capello uses a very similar system, but lacks the ability to make the right decision at the right time.
3 chances is something every team will automatically get every game. The four players I mentioned above will add a few more to that. If teams don't convert on their opportunities, they are doomed for failure either way.
I know the Juve way isn't exciting, but that isn't the point of football in the first place. If you want to be entertained and watch teams slap the ball around the pitch, perhaps you should follow another squad.
As for players to fit into our system. I like some of the options we discussed. But, one option I will never discuss is to change the way we play. It is a major reason I love Juve.
I won't even comment on that.
I am a fan of the Lippi system. Capello uses a very similar system, but lacks the ability to make the right decision at the right time.
3 chances is something every team will automatically get every game. The four players I mentioned above will add a few more to that. If teams don't convert on their opportunities, they are doomed for failure either way.
I know the Juve way isn't exciting, but that isn't the point of football in the first place. If you want to be entertained and watch teams slap the ball around the pitch, perhaps you should follow another squad.
As for players to fit into our system. I like some of the options we discussed. But, one option I will never discuss is to change the way we play. It is a major reason I love Juve.
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