The...I want this player to Juve thread (68 Viewers)
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By the way i've just read that roma signed udinese's motta on loan 
I agree with you that from now on we need only quality. I think that this year is our best chance in the next 3 years to win something big (and even this year our chances are slim). The players of greatest quality in our team are getting old and i can't see them performing better than they are now. They're already in decline and it will be much worse in the following years.
The only way to make it less painful is by getting quality in the starting XI.
We have the depth, now we need quality to replace the weak links.
But this is known to everyone and it's much easier to say than to do it. Paying 25-30m for someone who'll earn 4m net eur per year to replace someone who earns 1m net per year (and on top of it, to get two such players) requires a lot of money. I never saw our financial books but as it seems, we don't really have so much money, and that's why we try to compensate that with youth players who may but they also may not become great players one day.
It sucks, i know.
yep, the list is the same. 
no Iago, Immobile and Ekdal in the B list and Zanetti is on the list. WOW!!!
no Iago, Immobile and Ekdal in the B list and Zanetti is on the list. WOW!!!
But Immobile's absence is shocking, basically most dangerous weapon the primavera has. But I guess our well stacked attack makes them exclude him, but still, dont see the sense with 2 goalkeepers, and so many midfielders. 1 ST could do.
Not that it matters, non of those players except Ariuado will be used.
Grygera-Melberg-Legro-Molinaro is a proper defense? 
Man U-- Evans, O'Shea, Neville
Liverpool--Arbeloa, Aurelio
Chelsea--Bosingwa
All these teams have some not so "world-class" names but they certainly have world-class defences. What is more important is organisation and discipline. I will put the recent losses down to poor concentration(Buffon effect?). How about Ariaudo? Ferguson put his faith on Evans and he has played well so far.
Then look at Arsenal and Real Madrid, the teams that have some of the best players on paper, especially Arsenal with 2 of the best full-backs in the world and in Gallas, an excellent CB. They conceded so many soft goals.
Besides, transfers are expensive and must be planned carefully. We certainly do not want a repeat of Quaresma. Many of you are also asking for quality but clearly, there is none for sale which is why we are linked with nobody.
how ABOUT arbeloa? i fail to understand how that relates to our defense as pool is pretty stacked in quality and numbers in the back. lets not even bother comparing man u Defense to ours. Its one thing to recognize we re lacking adn another to demande for the impossible, most of us recognize the impasse we are in which is all due to a pretty poor mercato in that dept.
oh BTW bosingwa is a hell of a player
oh BTW bosingwa is a hell of a player
Yes, Bosingwa and to a certain degree Arbeloa are better than Grygera, but look at this: Bosingwa came from Porto, Arbeloa from Deportivo. We can't afford to buy players like these from their clubs, so we should scout and get players when they're playing in smaller clubs, so then after they can grow at Juve. For example: Rafinha.
Man U-- they have VIDIC and Ferdinand.... Vidic has been a hero (world's best cb) this year as Ferdinand and evra are usually injured or suspended. Man U got their 12th consecutive clean sheet this week.
How? because they have class. Gary Neville is a living Legend and a great leader at the back.. O shea is a good sub and is still on a higher level than our players. EVans turned out to be good. However the key to Man UTD is their genius coach Sir Alex Ferguson.
Liverpool-- Their defense is based on carragher.. the rest are usually switched around. They are average players but Rafa manages to put a great team with Average players and thats why i wish we get him next year.
Chelsea-- Bosingwa was the best fullback in the EPL's first half.. he is a relatively new face but one of the best 3 ... i think Maicon, alves and him are the best 3 i the world...
The chelsea defense is full of superstars and their subs are good
Ok here's the deal,according to Tuttosport we might get one of these defenders:Canini(Cagliari),Stovini(Catania) or Bellusci(Ascoli).We'll most probably end up with no one.
I'm all for Canini or Bellusci.Young,Italian,fairly good potential.Stovini would be another Mellberg,experienced and pretty solid.
Edit:Add to them Cribari(Lazio) and Esposito(Lecce).
I'm all for Canini or Bellusci.Young,Italian,fairly good potential.Stovini would be another Mellberg,experienced and pretty solid.
Edit:Add to them Cribari(Lazio) and Esposito(Lecce).
What the hell are you talking about man?
You've listed 2 players in o'shea and evans who arent even in the first team and wrongly listen neville as crap, neville is a really good consistqant player. Man U's Defence is individually world class: Vidic: WC, Ferdinand: WC, Neville: WC, Evra: WC. They also have really good depth in o'shea, evans and brown, all of whom i would happily have in our squad.
Liverpool have world class defenders, Carragher is a beast, as are skrtel and agger, Hypia is solid but their fullbacks are pretty average.
Chelsea have even more WC defenders, Bosingwa is WC, Terry: WC, Carvalho: WC, Cole: WC, alex is good, ivanovic is very good.
You clearly have no idea what your tallking about saying these teams dont have WC individuals
You've listed 2 players in o'shea and evans who arent even in the first team and wrongly listen neville as crap, neville is a really good consistqant player. Man U's Defence is individually world class: Vidic: WC, Ferdinand: WC, Neville: WC, Evra: WC. They also have really good depth in o'shea, evans and brown, all of whom i would happily have in our squad.
Liverpool have world class defenders, Carragher is a beast, as are skrtel and agger, Hypia is solid but their fullbacks are pretty average.
Chelsea have even more WC defenders, Bosingwa is WC, Terry: WC, Carvalho: WC, Cole: WC, alex is good, ivanovic is very good.
You clearly have no idea what your tallking about saying these teams dont have WC individuals
Don`t care about individuals or not individuals
I want to see a defence that concede less and most improtant I want them to look less vulnerable
Chiellini is great Mellberg is medicore at best Grygera is better when attacking then defending (and he is a defender not a midfielder or a striker...) Zebina is ok but always injured this year Molinaro- if you want to say he suck then go ahead as he does average at best when defending but he actually puts some movement when we attack. Legro- is good but slow and still a bit vulnerable IMO
so....
Chiellini- Great
Mellberg- not good enough
Legro- not good enough altough he does not suck
Molinaro- as a defender not good enough
Grygera- not good enough
Chiellini is our only reliable defender and guess what he is injured!
our midfield is not good enough too altough its not as bad as our defence but that`s another story
I want to see a defence that concede less and most improtant I want them to look less vulnerable
Chiellini is great Mellberg is medicore at best Grygera is better when attacking then defending (and he is a defender not a midfielder or a striker...) Zebina is ok but always injured this year Molinaro- if you want to say he suck then go ahead as he does average at best when defending but he actually puts some movement when we attack. Legro- is good but slow and still a bit vulnerable IMO
so....
Chiellini- Great
Mellberg- not good enough
Legro- not good enough altough he does not suck
Molinaro- as a defender not good enough
Grygera- not good enough
Chiellini is our only reliable defender and guess what he is injured!
our midfield is not good enough too altough its not as bad as our defence but that`s another story
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