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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
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Eventhough from goal.com, i believe this is a true quote:

"Olic to Juventus? That's not true. I think there has been a small misunderstanding maybe through the German newspaper Kicker," Stipic (Olic's agent) told Goal.com.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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A young goalie for the future

Juventus have signed Sampdoria's youth squad goalkeeper Vincenzo Fiorillo (18). The promising keeper will end the present season at Sampdoria, than move to Juventus in the summer. But, he will immediately be loaned by Juventus to a Serie B club in order to get more experience in the 2009-2010 season. Fiorillo would later return to Juventus for the 2010-2011 season.

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=28355
This is NOT rumour but official? if so, as one who seen him, AMAZING news :delpiero: :spliff:
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Fucking policies should be banned.
What do you want? He is 18, frigging 18, its like 12 years old for goalies ;) And he has frigging Buffon ahead of him now if he would come, warming the bench wouldnt do him any good right now. Let makes something clear, this kid is a GREAT talent, anyone who has seen theeuro U-19 can attest to that. We allways complain of not signing top talents when they are young, well, this one is Italy's finest regarding goalies, and its not just hype like the likes of Curci etc have had (they all had the rep of italian greats backing then initially, but all clearly seen to be decent/mediocre early on, this one is the opposite).

He is a quality talent. So there is NO downside to this, would you have prefered to wait til he hits it big several years from now and fight to buy him for big buck with the other top teams?

Not to compare him to Gigi, but wouldnt you have liked to have signed Gigi when he was 17-18 from Parma instead of pay record amount of dough later on?


P.S Not to speak too soon ofcourse, is this even official?
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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couldn't of had guidance under any better set of gks buffon,maninnger and chimi

shot stopping, reflexes and peno saving :)

possibly worlds first super duper gk
each of them have bad sides of their games too, like buffon saves 1 penalty of 10, manninger is weak in air and chimenti is just pure disaster. :p better dont try to combine these characteristics ;)
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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What do you want? He is 18, frigging 18, its like 12 years old for goalies ;) And he has frigging Buffon ahead of him now if he would come, warming the bench wouldnt do him any good right now. Let makes something clear, this kid is a GREAT talent, anyone who has seen theeuro U-19 can attest to that. We allways complain of not signing top talents when they are young, well, this one is Italy's finest regarding goalies, and its not just hype like the likes of Curci etc have had (they all had the rep of italian greats backing then initially, but all clearly seen to be decent/mediocre early on, this one is the opposite).

He is a quality talent. So there is NO downside to this, would you have prefered to wait til he hits it big several years from now and fight to buy him for big buck with the other top teams?

Not to compare him to Gigi, but wouldnt you have liked to have signed Gigi when he was 17-18 from Parma instead of pay record amount of dough later on?


P.S Not to speak too soon ofcourse, is this even official?
I'm not going to explain my stance on loans once again in much detail. In my view, all loans and co-ownerships should be banned outright because they're simply footballing terrorism against the smaller clubs whose player is stripped away from them and then sent off to another club. I don't care if the kids will get more playing during their loan... they can receive playing time at the club they're originally at most of the time.

This is no different than kidnapping, passing the kid around to various pirates, then expecting him back in better shape once you need him.

I don't mind it as much when it a 'keeper.

They need the experience of playing every week and it is harder for them to get a chance in the first team.
Even the Serie B club he's whored to may not play him at this age.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Keepers need that experience from smaller teams as a keeper needs to learn to make consistently good decisions. As where a youth player like gio/marchisio makes a mistake on the pitch its much less likely to result in a goal as they have 9 other field players and a goalie to cover for them. If a young keeper that lacks experience for decision making purposes could likely turn into a goal and a lost game. Although I agree with andy on not loaning field players out I think that young keepers need to be loaned out and thru experience better themselves in decision making and overall attributes. I am excited about this purchase, I feel more comfortated that in 4 years when buffon is on his way down this kid will be on the way up to step in and take over...that's if he developes properly:)
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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How does the loaning system help smaller clubs? Their players are stripped from them at an early age, bought up by bigger clubs and immediately shipped to another side. If the same club receives another talent for a year, what incentive do they have to nourish the player's long term development instead of maximizing their current potential? None. It's not like they should build team chemistry around that player only to lose him after the season is over. The reason why smaller clubs do take loans is to immediately provide them with another weapon, but it doesn't really help them that much.

It's a stupid system but the fans of the big clubs adore it because they're not being hurt by the system.
 
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