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Between Mahamadou Diarra and Real Madrid, a story ended: the player has not a good relationship with the manager Schuster, that during last time use him few times and bad, come time in the right side of field. At this point the farewell at the end of season seems unavoidable: according to Diario Sport, the midfielder former of Lyon will find home in Italy.

Non only Inter are interested on him: his agent Frederic Guerra would be in contact even with Braida (Milan), who has tracked him before his trasfer in Spain and Secco (Juventus).

Last bit ^^ (Dosen't bold for me :confused:)
2 Mali destroyers would be crazy though :p
 

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Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Random name of the day, sign Arshavin before Wenger does and turns him into a gem like Hleb.
Great player, isn't he ?
I've always liked him. One girl from Russia once told me that Zenith are paying him so much money that he's not even thinking of switching clubs. The wages he's getting there are as big as some of the best players in Europe are getting.

P.S: I've seen him lots of time, mostly for Russia, and i find him way too similar to Giovinco.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Hleb was a gem before he came to Wenger.
I know, I know. I mean he is acknowledged as a gem by the broad masses just for seeing him when he came to Arsenal.


I kept telling people Elano is a quality player, said Hleb is a wizard, but alot of people had not watched them before coming to EPL, and they all were acting like they were shit before coming to EPL. I hate that (people will act the same fucking way when they see Arshavin move to a top team, or Daniel Carvalho, even if its understandable not seeing them whent they in ruskie league).


Hleb didnt cost little, but he got little attention from the top football echelons (Rosicky who is good but not that great got way more hype), but Wenger saw him for the wizard he is and snapped him up.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Great player, isn't he ?
I've always liked him. One girl from Russia once told me that Zenith are paying him so much money that he's not even thinking of switching clubs. The wages he's getting there are as big as some of the best players in Europe are getting.

P.S: I've seen him lots of time, mostly for Russia, and i find him way too similar to Giovinco.
Exactly, seen a documentary on russian football, their biggiest talents for a solid decade hasnt been going anywhere because after america, Russia has half the billionnaires in the world, and they all own clubs and shit. They keep their football isolated from the world, and their players stay put all career long except few cases (France football grew when their stars went overseas and developed more with competition, Russian football has been in stagnated position for isolating itself totally). Huge money generated there.

Did you know for example, Ivanovic who went to Chelsea, he was ruski league for a couple of years, he was signed as an unknown serb talent, but he still earned 4m a year? (you dont want to know what the more established players cost in salary) Thats sick, they can throw around alot to keep decent players. 4m, thats more then or as much as all our stars except Buffon who earns 5m.

I saw him for the first time against Brazil some years ago, Quite nifty wizard. And indeed him and Giovinco are extremely similar in style and size. I know its highly unlikely we will sign him, but I would love it still. Arshavin can be a backup forward if one doesnt want him outcompeting Giovinco in midfield.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I believe the official numbers in Russian football are a little exaggerated. There is a lot of money laundering by these billionaires going on with the football sponsorhips, but it's still a fact that the players there are getting unbelievable sums.
When you're Russian, when you're getting so much money, when you're adored by the people on the streets and when you can still live and work in your own country there is absolutely no reason to leave the country. That's why they're staying in Russia.
Usually only the foreigners who want fame decide to leave the Russian league, even if they get less money in western Europe than what they're getting in Russia.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Staying home for it being home, and having all the money you need (southamericans would stay at home if they were that rich) is all understandable (mostly the latter, we dont like to think that, but the hugely deciding factor for player is money, if they got it, they dont care much else).

But there is such a thing as professional ambition. The best top football has never been played un Russia or anywhere close to it (from the 90s til only ast couple or more years, Russian football had been quite bad or average, but they have started to invest alot in it now), so that should be a huge incentive for the russian players to try overseas. To go where the action is, compete with the worlds finest.

But in a way, even if some would like to, Russia is almost a country cut out from the rest of the world, quite isolationists, its not an easy stop to go out for the adventure that is the rest of the world (for example NHL, it was impossible to imagine at first, but when the diaspora started to the NHL, it never stopped, they are basically the brazilians of hockey).

Not to mention regardless of how good their football can be, in comparison to the top, their are somewhat minor pond. Why would the players be so eager to leave some where they are the big fish, and go overseas to be a small fish in a bigger pond? Like Kerzakhov, russian star, 3-4th choice striker in Sevilla (who isnt that big of a team to begin with). It can be quite daunting and doesnt have that much incentive when the stakes are higher.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Btw, Even if I hadnt seen him much, even if it has been enough to notice what a wizard he is, I must admit my first and only thought about the russians investing in Juve was"I hope Arshavin is one of their pow wow peace offerings".

Unlike if it would be yanks (disney was rumoured to buy us a while ago?), they wouldnt have any interesting players to sweeten the relationship.
 

Elvin

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Nov 25, 2005
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Great player, isn't he ?
I've always liked him. One girl from Russia once told me that Zenith are paying him so much money that he's not even thinking of switching clubs. The wages he's getting there are as big as some of the best players in Europe are getting.

P.S: I've seen him lots of time, mostly for Russia, and i find him way too similar to Giovinco.
I was just gonna say that. Spot on.
 

Max

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Jul 15, 2003
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Juventus Needs: One consistently good central defender, two consistently good fullbacks (De Ceglie works for one), one creative midfielder, one winger (Giovinco can play there for now).

Juventus Gets: Amauri...WILD! Uh oh. Get used to losing to the elderly time and time again.
 

da_ledgeaun

The Juve Freak
Jun 2, 2007
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Juventus Needs: One consistently good central defender, two consistently good fullbacks (De Ceglie works for one), one creative midfielder, one winger (Giovinco can play there for now).
I agree with those,the purchase of one consistently good cb (zapata/carvalho/lugano)is very important,two consistently good fb would really be needed,(behrami/pasqual/de ceglie/vargas)come to mind,one creative midfielder(i would love diego,but vdv/modric would be fine..now wingers i would say we'll need 2,one for the first team on the left n one for camo's backup(i would love maxi,and 1 young prospect other than giovinco who wont mind the bench..)+marchisio and criscito..and then i think we're set,if amauri is to come too then i wont mind either..
 

Paolo Rossi

World Champion
Jul 8, 2007
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I am so sick of Molinaro. He can run and all when pushing forward, but he sux in defence. I think Grosso would be a perfect replacement, not only cause he is good, but he is also Italian. His age is a problem, but De Ceglie should be ready in 2 years. At right back I'm happy with Zebina or Grygera. Up front Amauri seems to be ours already...I think he should be more than enough. I don't mind our midfield especially if Marchisio comesback. The only other spot I would like covered is the CB position. Zapata or Barzagli would be perfect. Santacroce tho would be my dream. Maybe Zalayeta and some cash would be enough to bring him over.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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molinaro is shit! he is always out of position. when in his position he doesnt do anything either, this then causes chiellini to push over to save his ass which then creates a hole this hole is where most teams score against us.
 
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