The...I want this player to Juve thread (45 Viewers)
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Cannavaro was world class even at Parma, that was obvious to the whole world. But like I said Parma were at the time a promising club so he sticked with them for longer than he should have, when he went to Inter he flopped because it was obviously the wrong enviroment for him, at Juve he simply rediscovered his form.
Barzagli lost the label of a promising defender a number of years ago, now he's an average defender which people hope to be the new Canna or Nesta because Italy haven't got much other choices. That hope is futile because obviously he hasn't got it in him. I'm glad you recognised he isn't a leader and can't organize the defense which is exactly why Canna/Nesta were so damn good, that's probably one of the most important parts of being a world class center back.
Anyway I think you and pretty much all Italy supporters aren't objective when it comes to this guy, for reasons I already pointed out, so I'll leave this where it is. Time will tell I guess.
Barzagli lost the label of a promising defender a number of years ago, now he's an average defender which people hope to be the new Canna or Nesta because Italy haven't got much other choices. That hope is futile because obviously he hasn't got it in him. I'm glad you recognised he isn't a leader and can't organize the defense which is exactly why Canna/Nesta were so damn good, that's probably one of the most important parts of being a world class center back.
Anyway I think you and pretty much all Italy supporters aren't objective when it comes to this guy, for reasons I already pointed out, so I'll leave this where it is. Time will tell I guess.
Cannavaro is the best at anticipating. He's such a beast in anticipating passes. In Madrid this isn't as effective, because defences in La Liga frankly do not work as well as units, compared to Serie A defences. So no cover and no teamwork, if he intercepts a pass, he leaves space open. You can't play two anticipating cb's next to eachother, you need someone to cover the gaps.
Just look at this. amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwr...eb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6163&page=48
This only works though, when you have a cb covering, more of a say 'standing' cb. At juve, Cannavaro had Thuram and Kovac and for Italy, he had Nesta. Nesta takes the lead of the defensive line, guide his teammates, has dialogues with the goalkeeper (to find the most appropriate adjustements of the "axis") and cover those defenders who try to push foward. What makes Nesta greater than other, is he how he pushes the defensive line forward and keeps the gaps so close.
Both Cannavaro and Nesta are great, but different.
I think what makes Chiellini and Legro work so well, is that they too are different and complement each other well. Chiellini also pushes more forward and anticipates, while Legro covers from the back. Andrade and Criscito did not complement eachother well.
Sorry for taking this a bit far
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Just look at this. amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMwr...eb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6163&page=48
This only works though, when you have a cb covering, more of a say 'standing' cb. At juve, Cannavaro had Thuram and Kovac and for Italy, he had Nesta. Nesta takes the lead of the defensive line, guide his teammates, has dialogues with the goalkeeper (to find the most appropriate adjustements of the "axis") and cover those defenders who try to push foward. What makes Nesta greater than other, is he how he pushes the defensive line forward and keeps the gaps so close.
Both Cannavaro and Nesta are great, but different.
I think what makes Chiellini and Legro work so well, is that they too are different and complement each other well. Chiellini also pushes more forward and anticipates, while Legro covers from the back. Andrade and Criscito did not complement eachother well.
Sorry for taking this a bit far
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I hope he can still become that player, & at Juve, working with Ciro is the best place to make that possible. I still think we should try, because if he can he would make us so much better. If Andrade gets fit & Legro continues his good form, those 3 plus Chiellini, Criscito & Grygera gives us excellant options. If it didn't work, so be it.
(edit: God theres a lot of "ifs" in there, maybe someone else would be a better signing after all? )
(edit: God theres a lot of "ifs" in there, maybe someone else would be a better signing after all?
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