well i see your point hambon but how did you manage to leave out gentile?most ironic name in football ever. there uis a lack of hardmen defenders mainly due to the way the game has changed now,i used to love seeing a well executed slide tackle,coming in from behind and taking the ball(and the man)when it was performed right it was a work of art. nowadays defenders cant go to ground with out somecrazy assed,power hungry,fame seeking refferee(who has never played the game)whipping out a red card for "dangerous play"
the day they outlawed the sliding tackle from behind they ruined the livelyhood of the "hard but fair" defender,more the shame for the game