The Formula 1 thread - Season 2005 (3 Viewers)

[Zlatan]

Well, in Montoya's and Fisi's case I think it's more than just bad luck. I mean, in his 4 years in F1 this is the 3rd tthis exact thing has happened to Juan Pablo, and that's just off the top of my head. Verstappen ran into him once, Moneiro and now Pizzonia, and he did the same to Schumacher in Monte Carlo last year. I think it's more than just a coincidence that this keeps happening to him, he must be doing something wrong.

 

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[baggio]

Not if you cant point it out.

 

[Zlatan]

He seems to be too aggresive when lapping drivers. For example, he made a misstake in the Moneiro incident, he cut in front of him at the braking point, Moneiro lost all his downforce on the front and there was no way he could have stopped in time.

 

[baggio]

That could happen to anyone Z. Its a rare scenario and Id attribute it to bad luck more than anything.

 

[Zlatan]

Well, it could happen to anyone but it keeps happening too him. It never happened to Kimi. Thats one of the reasons I dont rate Montoya in the same league as Kimi or Michael (not that Kimi is in Michael's league yet), he's simply too unreliable, too many misstakes.

 

[baggio]

Are you trying to say that Kimi doesnt make any mistakes? Because then I see no reason why he isnt in Michael's league yet? They all have their gray areas, and this incident in particular though is not one that you see happening every race, less than a handful of occasions as far as im concerned.

 

[Zlatan]

Kimi makes misstakes too, as does everyone, but no he is not in Michael's league. I mean, how can a guy thats just started winning regularly immidiately be in the legue of a guy who has 7 world titles and 80+ wins?


And yes, it doesnt happen to Juan every race, but it doesnt happen ever to most of the other drivers.

 

[baggio]

:LOL: That actually makes JPM, one in a million then.

 

[Zlatan]

And thats not a good thing.

 

[Desmond]

I don't think you could fault Montoya for his aggressive streak.It's always been in him, and it's also because of it that he's one of the most entertaining drivers out there.

It's not so much that me makes the mistakes himself but IMo his driving style makes other drivers more prone to makin mistakes around him.Montoya's aggression isn't measured like Schumi's but neither is it outright reckless, he isn't a polished driver like Raikkonen but the talent is up there.

 

[Juve_The_Best]

Alonso won the Pole at brasil GP,, Kimi qualified 5th after a breaking mistake on the first corner.

Montoya 2nd ,, fisichella 3rd so he will be a sandwich between The 2 Renault drivers.

i think Alonso will win the title today.

 

[Desmond]

I'm counting on Montoyastrong to get the lead out of the first corner because he starts better compared to Alonso, Kimi'd have to fight back while he keeps the Spaniard at bay.

 

[JCK]

Fernando Alonso came up third in the Brazilian GP to beat the record of youngest F1 driver champion set by Emerson Fittipaldi and to be the first Spaniard to win the title. Good job Fernando, congratulations.

The constructor's title is still wide open but I expect to see McLaren able to clinch it as their current form looks better than the Renault.

 

[baggio]

I think JPM could finish second. Whats the points difference between him and Raikonnen?

 

[Tom]

at least 30 IIRC. He can't be caught. The best JPM can do now is get clear of Schumacher, they are tied 3rd atm.

 

[baggio]

Not much to choose between him and Raikonnen then, two seasons running now. (Last year he was eliminated at Indie, until then he and Raikonnen were pretty tight.)

 

[Tom]

Alonso takes the final win in Shanghai to ensure the renault double is complete.

DRIVERS
Alonso 133
Raikonnen 112
Schumacher 62
Montoya 60
Fisichella 58

CONSTRUCTORS
Renault 191
Mclaren-Mercedes 182
Ferrari 100

No F1 for 6 months :frown: