The Financial Situation (40 Viewers)

[Nomuken]

200 m debt and conte wants super transfers

He's asking for the impossible for all the easier it is for him to leave. What a Shitty move and excuse.

 

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[Zacheryah]

Osman is by far the dirtiest scumbag of this forum. That's why it's funny you called him clean. The only thing that's clean about him is his conscience because he's a psychopath.

Oh, i derived form that reaction that he had a relatively naive look at the world. Then again, i dont know him. Surprises me tbh

 

[X Æ A-12]

Osman is by far the dirtiest scumbag of this forum. That's why it's funny you called him clean. The only thing that's clean about him is his conscience because he's a psychopath.

Why he's so good at Mafia. He's just straight cold and ruthless.

 

[Hust]

I could pick up the irony in this thread from a mile away.

It's thick and heavy and it smells like a weight room.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The irony

 

[Hust]

The irony.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The Iron E

 

[Hust]

STREET

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

hotlink protection activated...

 

[ZoSo]

I wish I had Zach's offending skills. I like how he can knock it out of the ballpark outta nowhere. That takes skill.

 

[Zacheryah]

Lets stop this meaningless offtopic

We recorded profit after the 3rd quarter in amount of 2.9m. It's decrease of 70% compared to the same time last year, when we recorded 11m. Overall debt increased to 198m, last year it was 160m...


Revenues 229.2 m
Operating costs 171.6m
Amortization 43.7 m
Operating income 13.9 m
Net income 2.9m

http://www.juventus.com/wps/wcm/con...&CACHEID=d59011cf-5bb2-446e-ba2e-298845bee866


http://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pian...ugno-perdite-superiori-ai-16-mln-con-r-189460

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How much did the CL exit eventually cost us?

25m euros, in the words of Marotta himself.

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I don't understand how our debt increased last year... but one thing is for sure... our debt is increasing less and less...

Also: Our Equity increased this year aswell... so the debt/equity ratio is still the same.. a business shouldn't be financed with only debt.. but it also shouldn't be financed with only equity

You need to look at the end of each year, as that chart shows quarters as well.

As for the equity we'll record loss at the end of FY, significant probably, and it will decrease.

Having equity on a healthy levels is one of the requirements of being able to meet due obligations. If you're solely dependent on debt and most importantly if you rely on short term loans, you're risking a situation to become insolvent. This model in unsustainable in the long run as banks might threaten to convert part of the debt into equity, practically becoming owners of the legal entity. Fiat among many others had that particular issue at the beginning of the millennium, but they avoided it by forming an alliance with Crysler. Roma few years ago, before the American investors took over, had the difficulties to pay salaries to their personnel and you could have read that players like Emerson complained for not having received salaries for more than 6 months. For this reason I believe Exxor might very soon increase our capital reserves.

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@Zacheryah

I said what my expectations are before, but I might have been little too optimistic and following our general trend, but we'll see. As for our funds, it seems to me that 15-20m is what we can afford and without another loan, that would increase our debt further, we won't spend much. This basically depends on the board and decision they make. I can only guess which action they will decide to take.

To summarize it I hope that we take 30-40m loan and use 15-20 of our funds. That would allow us to have great mercato, but also expose us to more risk, which will be reduced next summer when the new sponsors kick in. Can't be more precise on that.

Our situation in a few good posts

 

[NinjaPoggy]

why so mad zach? your diseased redhead gave you another infection she borrowed from a immigrant?

now that should have been klin's response, since we are doing eye for an eye

 

[Cronios]

200 m debt and conte wants super transfers

Where did he said that?
And we can sign superstars if we dont waste away 15-20mil for every Osvaldo, Ogbonna and Isla out there...

 

[JuveJay]

Sure we can, if you want to sign one every three years.

 

[petersmit]

Where did he said that?
And we can sign superstars if we dont waste away 15-20mil for every Osvaldo, Ogbonna and Isla out there...

Exactly! This is why i hope we sign Sanchez, because he as proven to be a valuable asset in the serie A, primera division and the champions league.. Plus he is still young..

(potential) WC player for 25-30M>>> 2 squad players for 10-15M each IMO...

 

[Cronios]

Exactly! This is why i hope we sign Sanchez, because he as proven to be a valuable asset in the serie A, primera division and the champions league.. Plus he is still young..

(potential) WC player for 25-30M>>> 2 squad players for 10-15M each IMO...

He is good but instead of replacing/upgrading our best options, like Tevez, we would rather upgrade our weakest links first, as this is the optimal way to make the difference felt in a more decisive manner!

 

[petersmit]

And our weakest link is that we can't play any different formation than 3-5-2... we only tried it once, with a CM as RW and a CM/LM as LB...
Imagine us playing with players in their correct position, and being capable of switching to different formations with 1 or 2 substitutions

 

[Cronios]

Indeed and the reason for that is that we dont have the players for the 4-3-3
and thats not because we lack SSs
a Tevez-Llorente-Vucinic/Giovinco forward line wouldnt be that hard.
The reason we dont use a four back line is because we dont have an LB.
Conte was forced to play with three CBs, because we were conciding way too easily.
Ever since Marotta has been failing to get a dedicated quality LB, for 6 consecutive transfer windows, Asamoah, is a quick fix and as a midfielder can be fielded in that spot in a 3-5-2, but he is not LB.
The best Marotta could was serie B Peluso, but he is not starter material and Conte could not base the team upon him.

So before we upgrade from Tevez to Sanchez, we should rather upgrade from Peluso to Evra first...

The leap of quality among Evra and Peluso is far greater than the one among Tevez and Sanchez, so the overall upgrade of quality will be noticed considerably more!

 

[Zacheryah]

Exactly! This is why i hope we sign Sanchez, because he as proven to be a valuable asset in the serie A, primera division and the champions league.. Plus he is still young..

(potential) WC player for 25-30M>>> 2 squad players for 10-15M each IMO...

Did you even bother reading the quoted posts that make it quite clear why that is impossible ?

 

[Cronios]

Did you even bother reading the quoted posts that make it quite clear why that is impossible ?

You claim its impossible to buy one 25-30mil player instead of two 20mil ones?
Cause thats what you have been saying since last year...