I think we would be better off without Fiat, as they are not intrested in investing in the club. For instance, we could have signed Alonso for 16million, we offered 14million, we could'nt sign him as Elkann did not want to put in money, therefore we had to settle for the cheaper & lesser option in Poulsen. The IFIL do not even invest in our club, As soon as Gianni & Umberto agnelli died, the shareholders withdraw thier financial support, even Moggi stated this when he was general manager. Where was Elkann during the outbreak of "Farsopoli"? As long as Fiat own Juve, the likes of Secco will remain at the club, and will continue to waste the clubs money.