The Financial Situation (20 Viewers)

Nov 25, 2005
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Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

Juve: 71%

Atletico: 70%

Roma: 64%

PSG: 61%

Barca: 59%

Liverpool: 58%

Arsenal: 57%

Inter: 56%

Chelsea: 54%

Dortmund: 54%

Man Utd: 53%

Man City: 52%

Bayern: 48%

Real Madrid 48%

Spurs 39%
Plus, NONE of these clubs has as many dead-weight, rarely used, or side-lined players as Juve. We are literally burning money.
This could all end in a disaster. That being said, I completely trust our management to figure this out.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

Juve: 71%

Atletico: 70%

Roma: 64%

PSG: 61%

Barca: 59%

Liverpool: 58%

Arsenal: 57%

Inter: 56%

Chelsea: 54%

Dortmund: 54%

Man Utd: 53%

Man City: 52%

Bayern: 48%

Real Madrid 48%

Spurs 39%
some say it's sustainable below 60%. we're definitely on the edge when it comes to wages.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Plus, NONE of these clubs has as many dead-weight or side-lined players as Juve. We are literally burning money.
This could all end in a disaster. That being said, I completely trust our management to figure this out.
The biggest issue is our turnover hopefully with new sponsorship deals and the new tax law this percentage will decrease
 

Karim30

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
765
Ronaldo raised our sponsorship deals with Adidas and Jeep and increased our commercial revenue and brand value and a lot of this will translate into a higher turnover.
If we also exceed last year’s results in the champions league it will help a lot as they raised the prize money.
Moreover, by getting rid of the salaries of Khedira, Pjaca, Perin and Can (without losing any value on the pitch) in addition to Mandzukic and maybe Matuidi if we can secure a better B2B player in the summer, and, finally, by saving a lot on the salaries of Danilo, Demiral, MDL, Rabiot and Ramsey starting this month thanks to the new tax law, this percentage will fall considerably.
 
Apr 19, 2007
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We are going for rapid growth right now. We invested a lot in Ronaldo as a marketing/player package. When he goes away in a few years the percentage will go down. I think all the numbers are off right now because we decided to make a push to the next level.

The flip side to this is not try to punch above our weight which financially is 10th in the world. No one wants us a slow growth track. We have built a strong base. Improved our stadium and financial status over the last 10 years. No we have made the next step in buying players to bring in commercial revenue as well.

While it could backfire. I dont see that happening because we have one big chunk that will leave in 2-3 years and after that we will see where we stand financially and on the field. Hopefully we have the resources built up before then both in revenue and players to cope.Also wages being high doesnt take into count the transfer fees. PSG are invested almost 300 mil in two players plus salaries that are through the roof.

Lets enjoy the ride and hope we are going according to plan and not burning from the inside out.
 

duranfj

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Jul 30, 2015
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Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

Juve: 71%

Atletico: 70%

Roma: 64%

PSG: 61%

Barca: 59%

Liverpool: 58%

Arsenal: 57%

Inter: 56%

Chelsea: 54%

Dortmund: 54%

Man Utd: 53%

Man City: 52%

Bayern: 48%

Real Madrid 48%

Spurs 39%
Maybe italcalcio can give us a better picture cuz player cost is wages plus depreciation and we have a lot of freebies and that's not the case for the rest of the top teams bar BM
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Without the salaries of the unwanted players we couldn't sell, that 70% probably comes down to that acceptable 60% ratio.

That's been addressed by not buying anyone else in summer (we about broke even in terms of buys and sells), giving Mandzukic the treatment, and selling Spina might have had something to do with it.

So, financially we're fine when it comes to Paratici's budget (player salaries+transfer fees). It just meant we couldn't buy a midfielder and currently still don't have one who's WC.
 

s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/02/56/20/15/2562015_DOWNLOAD.pdf

the only mention of this 70% is at the end of art 62, on page 43:

In addition, the UEFA Club Financial Control Body reserves the right to ask the licensee to prepare and submit the break-even information for the reporting period T and additional information at any time, in particular if the annual financial statements reflect that:
a) employee benefits expenses exceed 70% of total revenue; or
b) net debt exceeds 100% of total revenue.
no mention of a potential sanction. uefa might ask for the break-even information at any time regardless of the wage bill, so clubs should be ready to submit that information regardless. it looks like an administration issue, not a financial one. correct me if i'm wrong @italiacalcio10
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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Wages to turnover of top 15 highest club revenues:

Juve: 71%

Atletico: 70%

Roma: 64%

PSG: 61%

Barca: 59%

Liverpool: 58%

Arsenal: 57%

Inter: 56%

Chelsea: 54%

Dortmund: 54%

Man Utd: 53%

Man City: 52%

Bayern: 48%

Real Madrid 48%

Spurs 39%
This is one of the reason we cant sign Eriksen
Offload Khedira, Exchange Can with Paredes first definitely will help and lower the books
 

Karim30

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
765
The ffp calculations are different to the turnover approach that Deloitte adopt without taking into account transfers’ revenue ..According to the ffp calculations we are fine and in all cases we are not under any threats to get sanctions
 
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