The Doped Lady (2 Viewers)
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Besides DRUG USE not being tested on the criminal law "beyond a reasonable doubt" rule (which is not even 100% or whatever he is trying to say) its a "balance of probabilities". Regardless in this case scientific evidence (blood tests, fluid levels, etc) is enough.
Another thing: whats with this the OTHER TEAMS..OTHER TEAMS and OTHER TEAMS whining.
Because the OTHER team is guilty of something that has nothing to do with the other does not make THIS team's situation less grave. Whats with this school ground reasoning?
So if I killed someone I shouldn't be found guilty UNTIL the OTHER guy who beat someone into a coma should ALSO be found guilty?
Yeah.....what a logic.
Another thing: whats with this the OTHER TEAMS..OTHER TEAMS and OTHER TEAMS whining.
Because the OTHER team is guilty of something that has nothing to do with the other does not make THIS team's situation less grave. Whats with this school ground reasoning?
So if I killed someone I shouldn't be found guilty UNTIL the OTHER guy who beat someone into a coma should ALSO be found guilty?
Yeah.....what a logic.
If it is proven that you killed someone you have to be found guilty. But it has to be proven. What about the rowdy? Shouldn't he called to account? The rowdy shouldn't be exempt form punishment.
"One hundred football players use forbidden medicines, said the judge Guariniello on 7/15 1999. now we are waiting for the list of names"
that sentence can be read www.zeman.org. now my question: Let us assume that Conte and Tacchinardi were doped. What about the other 98 rowdies? What about justisness? even if all juve players in that period were doped (which isn't true of course) there must be at least 20 players of other clubs. or did Guariniello talk already fantastic ideas five years ago?
chance for all pettifoggers to use their beautiful minds ...
"One hundred football players use forbidden medicines, said the judge Guariniello on 7/15 1999. now we are waiting for the list of names"
that sentence can be read www.zeman.org. now my question: Let us assume that Conte and Tacchinardi were doped. What about the other 98 rowdies? What about justisness? even if all juve players in that period were doped (which isn't true of course) there must be at least 20 players of other clubs. or did Guariniello talk already fantastic ideas five years ago?
chance for all pettifoggers to use their beautiful minds ...
But has it been proved beyond all reasonable doubt 8 years later that these things really happened?
As to the allegations of nose diving careers...
I don't think so.
Ravanelli and Vialli were at their peaks in the mid 90s.
Del Piero has never been the strongest physically,
Tacchinardi has never been the best defensive midfielder or he'd have comandeered the Azzurri number 4 jersey,
Zidane's career definitely blossomed .
Deschamps was nearing retirement when he left Juve....
there's more....
want to know more?
As to the allegations of nose diving careers...
I don't think so.
Ravanelli and Vialli were at their peaks in the mid 90s.
Del Piero has never been the strongest physically,
Tacchinardi has never been the best defensive midfielder or he'd have comandeered the Azzurri number 4 jersey,
Zidane's career definitely blossomed .
Deschamps was nearing retirement when he left Juve....
there's more....
want to know more?
Once again I see that Logic at play. HOW DOES THIS COME INTO PLAY? HOW DOES THIS FACTOR CHANGE/ALTER/MODIFY OR CORRECT the situation regarding Juve's doping trial??
Whether Berlusconi is CORRUPT/A DICTATOR/GAY/STRAIGHT/A CROSS-DRESSER OR A UFO...HOW DOES THIS FACT COME INTO DISCUSSION HERE?
The fact that one's PRESIDENT decided to go into politics and do what he did does not TOUCH the team's performance or lack of it.
BUT REGARDLESS, how does BERLUCONI have to do with Juve's doping trial?
LEARN TO REASON...LEARN TO DEBATE AND LEARN TO THINK
and more importantly seeing how you talk (if you want to call it talk) to some people...learn some respect and show some class.
Whether Berlusconi is CORRUPT/A DICTATOR/GAY/STRAIGHT/A CROSS-DRESSER OR A UFO...HOW DOES THIS FACT COME INTO DISCUSSION HERE?
The fact that one's PRESIDENT decided to go into politics and do what he did does not TOUCH the team's performance or lack of it.
BUT REGARDLESS, how does BERLUCONI have to do with Juve's doping trial?
LEARN TO REASON...LEARN TO DEBATE AND LEARN TO THINK
and more importantly seeing how you talk (if you want to call it talk) to some people...learn some respect and show some class.
Since you seem to know so much about Berlusconi I'm really curious to hear your theory on how television stations and publishing companies qualifies as MAFIA MONEY. Since these make up Berlusconi's largest assets and money makers I want to hear HOW you labelled these industries MAFIA MONEY.
Please explain to ALL OF US XZIZ how Berlusconi's TELEVISION STATIONS AND PUBLISHING COMPANIES are MAFIA MONEY. If you can please explain how MAFIA MONEY COMES INTO PLAY when revenue comes from advertising, syndication and overseas syndication. I'm really curious to see how the MAFIA fits into these industries...
Please explain to ALL OF US XZIZ how Berlusconi's TELEVISION STATIONS AND PUBLISHING COMPANIES are MAFIA MONEY. If you can please explain how MAFIA MONEY COMES INTO PLAY when revenue comes from advertising, syndication and overseas syndication. I'm really curious to see how the MAFIA fits into these industries...
Hi, this is an interesting discussion, I`m Juventus fan since 2003 when the team beat Barca and Real Madrid at CL, I was really impressed by this squad and its players, (Nedved, Davids, DP, etc..).
The point is that I don`t know about Juve problems with doping until know. I really love Juve but if Juve´s players used EPO, I think Juve must be punished.
But lets be realistic, Italy is a corrupt country and Juventus is a powerful team, if the members of the club are found guilty the club only will pay a big amount of money and that´s all.
Lets supose Juve is guilty, then another italian clubs must be investigated, I mean players are human beings and maybe the clubs are harming them with drugs. As many of you mention maybe that is the reason for DP´s injuries.
The point is that I don`t know about Juve problems with doping until know. I really love Juve but if Juve´s players used EPO, I think Juve must be punished.
But lets be realistic, Italy is a corrupt country and Juventus is a powerful team, if the members of the club are found guilty the club only will pay a big amount of money and that´s all.
Lets supose Juve is guilty, then another italian clubs must be investigated, I mean players are human beings and maybe the clubs are harming them with drugs. As many of you mention maybe that is the reason for DP´s injuries.
Ohh yeah and if Juve gives back its trophies, the club that will receive them (I suppose that will be the 2nd place on the table position of that year) has to be investigated in order to get the throphies.
Hey, could you tell me which is the correct way to transform a thin guy into a strong football player?. Because some years ago (4 or 5) when Brasil comes here (Mexico) to play the COPA CONFEDERACIONES (or something like that) he was really thin, then when I see him at BarÇa he looks stronger. I really hope that this doping case ends, and that the true comes out.
Hey, could you tell me which is the correct way to transform a thin guy into a strong football player?. Because some years ago (4 or 5) when Brasil comes here (Mexico) to play the COPA CONFEDERACIONES (or something like that) he was really thin, then when I see him at BarÇa he looks stronger. I really hope that this doping case ends, and that the true comes out.
No actually Italy HAS and continues to have democratic elections and has been part of the G8 (form. known as G7) since the beginning. There has NEVER been accusations of VOTER fraud or strong arm tactics. There is an independant court system and political body.
I suggest next time you throw accusations out of your ass you know what your talking about. Otherwise stop generalizing before you decide to post garbage.
I suggest next time you throw accusations out of your ass you know what your talking about. Otherwise stop generalizing before you decide to post garbage.