The Doped Lady (2 Viewers)

[isha00]

THE SENTENCE:

I'd say it went well.

Giraudo is innocent and Agricola was condamned to 1 year and 10 months.
This means that juve is innocent on the doping front!

some links

http://www.ansa.it/main/notizie/fdg/200411261350176345/200411261350176345.html

http://www.tgcom.it/sport/articoli/articolo231296.shtml

 

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[flieeeekke]

so agricola is going to jail or what?

 

[isha00]

well, the sentence says so. But juve's lawyers are going to appeal, and I'm almost sure he will be declared innocent.

 

[erado]

damn.. I cant read italian.... so thats Juventus is innocent and Agricola sent to prison???

 

[isha00]

juve couldn't be declared guilty, beacuse the trial was not about the team, but only on Giraudo and Agricola.

The accuse had asked 3 years and 2 months for Agricola and 2 years and 1 month for Giraudo.

Considering the fact that the judge was casalbore (guareiniello's buddy :groan, I'd say that it went well. I think the appeal will do us complete justice . We'll "only" have to wait some years

 

[erado]

thanks for the info...

Hopefully Agricola will be given complete justice...

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by erado ] ++
thanks for the info...

Hopefully Agricola will be given complete justice...

which, in all honesty, shouldnt be less than lets say, 3 years

 

[isha00]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++


which, in all honesty, shouldnt be less than lets say, 3 years

Without proofs it should be, let's say, about.. 0 days
You can't put a man in prison for 22 months without being sure he broke the law


The sentence says that Agricola doped the players (funny, with CONI saying the opposite and without players found positive).

Like Anna Chiusano said today: "Rigore è quando arbitro fischia. Reato e' quando legge prevede''. (someone could please translate it in a good English?)

 

[zemanlandia.com]

is the first time in italy that a doctor in soccer is punished for doping...

the first team is the juventus...

i hope there will be a clear justice...

 

[isha00]

++ [ originally posted by zemanlandia.com ] ++


i hope there will be a clear justice...

I hope too! With a clear justice we would be talking about agricola and giraudo both assolved But we will, don't worry

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by isha00 ] ++



Without proofs it should be, let's say, about.. 0 days
You can't put a man in prison for 22 months without being sure he broke the law


The sentence says that Agricola doped the players (funny, with CONI saying the opposite and without players found positive).

Like Anna Chiusano said today: "Rigore è quando arbitro fischia. Reato e' quando legge prevede''. (someone could please translate it in a good English?)

ok, and dont really hows it like in there, nor do i really care :dontcare:

but libero said before (not sure if in this thread or not) that in italy its illegal to give healthy players certain performance enhancing drungs (some put this in good english too)

 

[flieeeekke]

++ [ originally posted by Kaiser Franco ] ++
Yes Pado, but times have changed. These new drugs are simply impossible to detect in urine samples, so the only way to determine their use (not their presence) is by studying their effects on the blood, such as an abnormal variation of hematocrit value. And Juventus' medical staff has collected data on blood values from those years, which does show surprising increases in the hematocrit values of some players. In '96, Del Piero, Deschamps and Di Livio's values rapidly raised from 42,3, 43,2 and and 43,4 to 48,4, 51,9 and 51,2 respectively (a > 50 hematocrit value in cycling is considered as life-threatening and earns you immediate suspension). The only substance known to have such a drastic effect on hematocrit values is EPO. Incidentally, those same players have been absorbing high quantities of iron in that period as well, which notoriously reduces the side effects of EPO.

Note that according to the Italian anti-doping legislation, not only is taking illegal substances such as EPO a crime, but so is taking legal medications while you are perfectly fit. When a player passes a urine test at the end of a game, he must list all the legal products he has taken in the past week to the authorities. Based on these declarations, the prosecution has determined the use of psychotropic drugs, anti-depressors, miocardiotopics (not sure about the English name) etc. at Juventus. Agricola has justified this through the heavy playing schedule (3 games in a week) which made some players tired and thus called for medical assistance. But the problem is that these meds have been given to players (Ferrara and Ravanelli) at a time when they were often benched, hence not under enough physical strain to justify their use. So in that respect, the prosecution claims that these legal substances were taken to enhance the players' performances.

here it is.

 

[The Arif]

Giraudo cleared
Friday 26 November, 2004

Juve’s Managing Director, Antonio Giraudo, has been cleared of all charges concerning the alleged doping scandal surrounding Juventus.

This was the verdict given today by Judge Giuseppe Casalbore after four hours of deliberation.

Doctor Agricola, meanwhile, received a one year and ten month sentence in prison as well as a €2000 fine.

The prosecution were asking for three years and one month for Agricola and two years and one month for Giraudo.



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[isha00]

++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++


ok, and dont really hows it like in there, nor do i really care :dontcare:

but libero said before (not sure if in this thread or not) that in italy its illegal to give healthy players certain performance enhancing drungs (some put this in good english too)

I'm not sure of what the law says now, but at the time considered ('93-'98) there wasn't even a law on doping. A law that doesn't exists can't be broken. There was only a list of medicines and drugs considered illegal. If the players at the time took something they didn't need, but wasn't on the list, they did notthing wrong (well, on the legal point of view). That's why CONI (Italian National Olympic Commitee) assolved the team, Agricola and Giraudo.

http://www.settoretecnico.figc.it/antidoping.asp

 

[isha00]

When CONI assolved Agricola&co., it said that not only there was no doping case, but also that there had been no abuse of medicines. This means that EVERYTHING that happened at juve at the time is considered perfectly legal by the italian sportive justice.

http://www.sportpro.it/editoriali/editorialeOLD.htm#ASSOLVE

 

[xziz]

from: http://www.juventus.com/uk/news/detail.aspx?lml_language_id=0&trs_id=1370000&ID=3429

Comments on the verdict

The press conference was held at Juventus’ headquarters, in the very hall of the trophies that represent over one-hundred years of history, tradition, values such as fair play, the same that can be found in the first words spoken by Antonio Giraudo after being acquitted of all charges: “The verdict given today absolves not only me but the very Juventus. No one in the Club has ever failed fair play, not even doctor Agricola to whom we are very close and who’s been and will be in the future the Juventus club doctor. I’m sure that the appeal will sort this situation out and that we’ll soon be talking about a mere faux pas.”

After the managing director, the word goes to the Juventus club doctor, whose trial procedure is not over yet but who will still face the appeal with serenity “as I’m innocent and the whole Club, the management, the staff and the players, are on my side. Don’t forget that all these trophies have been won by them players!”

The first demonstrations of affection by the supporters were nice. “I was approached by many- tells Giraudo – on the way back from the Court-house to the headquarters. They complimented me but compliments were for Juventus because, along with me, the whole Juventus was absolved and supporters have understood that”

 

[xziz]

from sportitalia.com = Eurosport Italy
http://www.sportitalia.com/home/pages/spi/v4/l4/s22/sport_lng4_spo22_sto661312_sitspi.shtml

Il dopo-sentenza

[26/11/04] - Le dichiarazioni dei protagonisti del processo Juve dopo la sentenza di condanna per Agricola e di assoluzione per Giraudo.


Il valzer delle dichiarazioni post-sentenza comincia con il procuratore aggiunto Raffaele Guariniello, che si è detto "soddisfatto della sentenza, è quello che mi aspettavo". Guariniello ha quindi incassato anche gli apprezzamenti del suo superiore Marcello Maddalena, procuratore capo, che ha affermato di essere d'accordo con lui.

Mentre Giraudo e Agricola hanno abbandonato in fretta i dintorni del Palazzo di Giustizia, l'avvocato Luigi Chiappero, uno dei legali della difesa bianconera, ha rilasciato le dichiarazioni alla stampa: "Sono soddisfatto a metà; sull'imputazione del medico dobbiamo aspettare la partita di ritorno, sono convinto dei nostri argomenti e continueremo a lottare. Mi aspettavo che il giudice ci desse ragione sulla perizia di D'Onofrio." Circa il ricorso in appello ha quindi aggiunto: "Continueremo a combattere per Agricola, convinti della bontà delle nostre motivazioni. Adesso aspettiamo le motivazioni del giudice, che è un magistrato bravissimo. Ma speravo di averlo convinto sull'Epo: avevamo argomentazioni monumentali. In ogni caso questa era la partita di andata, e il campo non ci era favorevole. Era come se fossimo in trasferta, anche se l'arbitro è stato corretto. Adesso ricorreremo in appello. Ci saranno tre giudici, e speriamo che sei occhi vedano meglio di due".

Dopo il difensore di Agricola, ecco il commento del legale di Giraudo, Paolo Trofino: "Siamo soddisfatti, questa sentenza arriva dopo 6 anni di gogna mediatica, era importante dimostrare l'innocenza di un uomo come Giraudo. Siamo veramente soddisfatti, ma una punta di amarezza rimane per il dottor Agricola, anche se questa sentenza difficilmente reggerà in appello. Cominceremo a lavorare già da domani per dimostrare che anche Agricola non ha commesso nessun reato riguardo alla somministrazione dei farmaci. Comunque siamo convinti che difficilmente questa sentenza reggerà in appello: Agricola è stato condannato per l'Epo e sulla prova più fragile di tutta".

Trofino riferisce quindi la reazione del suo assistito: "L'ho visto leggermente emozionato, lui è un uomo freddo, abituato a prendere decisioni importanti, ma dopo questi sei anni, dopo l'assoluzione ho visto nei suoi occhi la mia stessa emozione, ero convinto della sua innocenza". Poi l'avvocato Anna Chiusano dedica l'assoluzione al padre scomparso, "colui che per tanti anni fu presidente della Juventus" e all'attuale presidente "l'avvocato Franzo Grande Stevens, che rappresenta tutti i tifosi di tale gruppo societario". Un ultimo pensiero quindi per Agricola: "Ci dispiace perché a nostro avviso il reato di frode sportiva non era applicabile. Speriamo in appello di correggere questa impostazione".

Eurosport - Alessandro Acton

 

[xziz]

from: http://www.eurosport.co.uk/home/pages/v4/l2/s22/e6873/sport_lng2_spo22_evt6873_sto661247.shtml

Juventus doctor jailed in doping case

Juventus doctor Riccardo Agricola was found guilty of sporting fraud and given a 22-month prison sentence on Friday after a doping trial of Italy's most successful soccer club. Club chief executive Antonio Giraudo was found not guilty. Agricola was also ordered to pay a 2,000 euro fine.

Defence lawyer Paolo Trofino told reporters the judge had found Agricola guilty of administering the banned blood-booster EPO.

"He was condemned for what was the weak point of the prosecution's charges, the administration of EPO," said Trofino.

"It is a sentence that will be difficult to get through appeal," he said, confirming the defence intended to appeal. The trial looked at Juve's medical practices between 1994 and 1998, a period when they won three Italian titles and also the 1996 European Cup.

It is unlikely that Agricola will have to serve time in prison because, in Italy, first offences are often suspended. "We are very satisfied about Giraudo but there is a little bitterness for Agricola," Trofino said.

Turin public prosecutor Raffaele Guariniello began investigating allegations against 27-times Italian champions Juventus in 1998.

"This is what I expected," Guariniello said after the verdict. "It is only the first step."

EPO is a synthetic hormone that stimulates the body's production of red blood cells, increasing oxygen transport and endurance. It has been widely used in cycling.

France's Zinedine Zidane, three times World Player of the Year, former Chelsea manager Gianluca Vialli, now a television presenter, and former European Footballer of the Year Roberto Baggio were among those who appeared during the Turin trial which began in September 2002.

The investigation was prompted by comments made in a 1998 magazine interview by current Lecce coach Zdenek Zeman that Italian football needed to "get out of the pharmacy". In the interview Zeman pointed the finger at Juventus.

 

[xziz]

from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4045525.stm


Juve doctor guilty in drugs case
Riccardo Agricola

Prosecutors wanted Agricola to be given a longer sentence
A Juventus doctor has been convicted of administering banned substances to the club's players during the 1990s.

Riccardo Agricola was given a 22-month suspended prison sentence by a judge in Turin, six years after allegations were made by former Roma coach Zdenek Zeman.

Club chairman Antonio Giraudo, who along with Agricola had denied the charges, was acquitted.

Prosecutors had alleged that Juventus players were regularly supplied with drugs, including EPO, from 1994-98.

Zinedine Zidane, Roberto Baggio and Alessandro Del Piero are among the current and former Juve players who gave evidence at the trial.

Prosecutors had requested prison terms of three years and two months for Agricola and two years and one month for Giraudo.

Defence lawyers argued that there was no evidence players were given banned substances.

 

[xziz]

from: http://edition.cnn.com/2004/SPORT/football/11/26/italy.trial/index.html

Football
Juve doctor guilty in doping trial

Friday, November 26, 2004 Posted: 1420 GMT (2220 HKT)

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Former Juventus star Roberto Baggio was among a number of high profile players to take the stand in the trial.

TURIN, Italy -- Juventus doctor Riccardo Agricola was found guilty of sporting fraud and given a 22-month prison sentence on Friday after a trial investigating systematic doping at Italy's most successful football club.

Club chief executive Antonio Giraudo was found not guilty. Agricola was also ordered to pay a 2,000 euro ($2,600) fine.

Defence lawyer Paolo Trofino told reporters the judge had found Agricola guilty of administering the banned blood-booster EPO.

"He was condemned for what was the weak point of the prosecution's charges, the administration of EPO," said Trofino.

"It is a sentence that will be difficult to get through appeal," he said, confirming the defence intended to appeal.

The trial looked at Juve's medical practices between 1994 and 1998, a period when they won three Italian titles and also the 1996 European Cup.

It is unlikely that Agricola will have to serve time in prison because, in Italy, first offences are often suspended.

"We are very satisfied about Giraudo but there is a little bitterness for Agricola," Trofino said.

Turin public prosecutor Raffaele Guariniello began investigating allegations against 27-times Italian champions Juventus in 1998.

"This is what I expected," Guariniello said after the verdict. "It is only the first step."

EPO is a synthetic hormone that stimulates the body's production of red blood cells, increasing oxygen transport and endurance. It has been widely used in cycling.

France's Zinedine Zidane, three times World Player of the Year, former Chelsea manager Gianluca Vialli, now a television presenter, and former European Footballer of the Year Roberto Baggio were among those who appeared during the Turin trial which began in September 2002.

The investigation was prompted by comments made in a 1998 magazine interview by current Lecce coach Zdenek Zeman that Italian football needed to "get out of the pharmacy." In the interview Zeman pointed the finger at Juventus.