Teun Koopmeiners - AM C/M C - Atalanta (29 Viewers)

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Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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yes I know. But he is frozen out of the squad. Why does it matter….. they have no Koop as it is
Well, Koop is playing hardball and Atalanta is rightly so not giving in (which would also set a precedent) without a replacement. It wouldn't be smart not to wait for it since we're hopelessly waiting for Koop anyway. Our offer ain't going anywhere.
 

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Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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I don’t get it. He is our number 1 target. He wants out of the squad…not called up for supercup, they insisted on 60m, we offer 59m……why is this not already done?!?!

For the the love of God
Atalanta have such a leverage that can play hard ball to bend Juve on the table. They don't lose their key players until their request meet. completely different management compared to Juve.
 
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Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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I don’t get it. He is our number 1 target. He wants out of the squad…not called up for supercup, they insisted on 60m, we offer 59m……why is this not already done?!?!

For the the love of God
Atalanta see us as their CL spot rivals. Kinda like a scenario where Tottenham sell their best player to Union.

If this was multiple league winning JJ, it would've been a different story but this is a bruised, battered, crippled version of JJ that is still in a rebuilding phase and will likely be competing for top 4 as a primary objective this season. So not really surprised Atalanta are playing hardball and hoping some abroad team comes in for him.
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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Yeah who are you gonna sign at this point of the transfer window?

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I am no fan of 'toli but these posts are boring af.

The bots have infiltrated Tuz.
Samardzic, Akliouche, or other players which the scout have the list based on player strength Motta and Giuntoli needs.

Yes, Koop is productive player but for €60m player CM, risk is very big. Motta and Giuntoli are definitely know what the team need for their system but i see us still lacking for CM that good in final third. Have a good control of the ball, compose, creative and have eye for the goal or assists like Barella, Odegaard, F. Ruiz or a box to box like Valverde

If we compare it with Inter as benchmark because they won the league last season. We can compare Douglas Luiz will play in Calhanoglu role. Kephren Thuram as DM, but we dont have player like Barella

Based on a year stats Koop is not that exceptional in terms of attacking metric, he is more standout in defensive metric which we alresdy covered by Thuram

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Compare with Fabian Ruiz who excel in 2/3 third of the table :
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Or Barella
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Both of Ruiz and Barella is inferior in defensive aspect but superior in attacking part (passing, ball carries, chances creation, shooting chance).
In friendly our problem is scoring goals, that's why we should look for CM with more attacking prowess we need. You can also check other player mentioned above like Valverde. That's why i dont oppose signing Koop but paid extra huge sum for him seems a risk which could be not answer our needs
 
Jul 13, 2010
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Samardzic, Akliouche, or other players which the scout have the list based on player strength Motta and Giuntoli needs.

Yes, Koop is productive player but for €60m player CM, risk is very big. Motta and Giuntoli are definitely know what the team need for their system but i see us still lacking for CM that good in final third. Have a good control of the ball, compose, creative and have eye for the goal or assists like Barella, Odegaard, F. Ruiz or a box to box like Valverde

If we compare it with Inter as benchmark because they won the league last season. We can compare Douglas Luiz will play in Calhanoglu role. Kephren Thuram as DM, but we dont have player like Barella

Based on a year stats Koop is not that exceptional in terms of attacking metric, he is more standout in defensive metric which we alresdy covered by Thuram

Screenshot_20240817_004203~2.jpg


Compare with Fabian Ruiz who excel in 2/3 third of the table :
Screenshot_20240817_004309~2.jpg

Screenshot_20240817_004309~2.jpg
Screenshot_20240817_004309~2.jpg


Or Barella
Screenshot_20240817_004641~2.jpg


Both of Ruiz and Barella is inferior in defensive aspect but superior in attacking part (passing, ball carries, chances creation, shooting chance).
In friendly our problem is scoring goals, that's why we should look for CM with more attacking prowess we need. You can also check other player mentioned above like Valverde. That's why i dont oppose signing Koop but paid extra huge sum for him seems a risk which could be not answer our needs
Can't see screenshots, too small
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
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you guys got it all wrong.

reason transfer is not happening is because atalanta isn't desperate to sell. they are well managed club that they dont' need to plusvalenza players so they can sign 4th goalies and expiring contract defenders.

their worse case scenario is koop stays for another year. no big deal to them they get to keep a good player.
 

cimenk

Senior Member
Jul 23, 2008
3,128
Yeah who are you gonna sign at this point of the transfer window?

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I am no fan of 'toli but these posts are boring af.

The bots have infiltrated Tuz.
Samardzic, Akliouche, or other players which the scout have the list based on player strength Motta and Giuntoli needs.

Yes, Koop is productive player but for €60m player CM, risk is very big. Motta and Giuntoli are definitely know what the team need for their system but i see us still lacking for CM that good in final third. Have a good control of the ball, compose, creative and have eye for the goal or assists like Barella, Odegaard, F. Ruiz or a box to box like Valverde

If we compare it with Inter as benchmark because they won the league last season. We can compare Douglas Luiz will play in Calhanoglu role. Kephren Thuram as DM, but we dont have player like Barella

Based on a year stats Koop is not that exceptional in terms of attacking metric, he is more standout in defensive metric which we already covered by Thuram or what Locatelli expected to do

Screenshot_20240817_004203~2.jpg


Compare with Fabian Ruiz who excel in 2/3 third of the table :
Screenshot_20240817_004309~2.jpg

or Barella
Screenshot_20240817_004641~2.jpg


Both of Ruiz and Barella is inferior in defensive aspect but superior in attacking part (passing, ball carries, chances creation, shooting chance).
In friendly our problem is scoring goals, that's why we should look for CM with more attacking prowess we need. With winning a league aspirations, we expect more teams will do more defending against us and we need more CM who excel in attacking attributes

You can also check other player mentioned above like Valverde. That's why i dont oppose signing Koop but paid extra huge sum for him seems a risk which could be not answer our needs
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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yes I know. But he is frozen out of the squad. Why does it matter….. they have no Koop as it is

It matters because its 2 weeks left of transfer window and they want an AM of their choice to replace him before selling. What if they sell Koop and then Celtic says they wanna keep Oreilly. Then they screwed if that's only AM they want.


If they keep Koop until they get him then in case they can't get a replacement of their choice they can force Koop to stay even if he is frozen himself out. Because there's no urgency to sell him, he has contract til 2028.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
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I really hope we manage to get him, it'll put us in an awkward situation if we leave mercato without reaching the deal for whatever reason.
 
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