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Major terrorist threats have a distributed command and control built into their DNA through the use of semi-autonomous cells, etc. For those reasons, I don't think Osama is as relevant to ending any sort of war on terror as some might make it out to be.
There's enough opium fields in Arghanistan to fund a lot more terrorist activity than the Bin Laden family bank could. And from what I can tell of these organizations, there isn't a sort of alignment with a single, recognized leader. e.g., taking out Arafat doesn't necessarily disband the PLO (let alone Hamas, who doesn't really respect him anyway).
There's enough opium fields in Arghanistan to fund a lot more terrorist activity than the Bin Laden family bank could. And from what I can tell of these organizations, there isn't a sort of alignment with a single, recognized leader. e.g., taking out Arafat doesn't necessarily disband the PLO (let alone Hamas, who doesn't really respect him anyway).
I tend to agree when you say that its illogical to think that Kerry cant prevent an attack sooner than later. He has one thing Bush doesnt: the gift of hindsight. Kerry can improve the state of things because one must realise that the power of the US presidency should be complemented by intelligence, not aggression.
Besides, Osama has beaten Bush all ends up, and i feel this new tape (where he runs down Bush) has been released in perfect timing, so as to unite people to vote for Bush, rather than against him because thats exactly what Osama wants. He knows the way Bush has worked in the past, and he knows how predictable Bush will continue to be. As far as national security goes, Osama knows the US army is spreading itself thin in lands abroad thanks to Bush, which leaves them vulnerable at home, and thats all he needs for a second, probably more fierceful attack than 9/11.
Besides, Osama has beaten Bush all ends up, and i feel this new tape (where he runs down Bush) has been released in perfect timing, so as to unite people to vote for Bush, rather than against him because thats exactly what Osama wants. He knows the way Bush has worked in the past, and he knows how predictable Bush will continue to be. As far as national security goes, Osama knows the US army is spreading itself thin in lands abroad thanks to Bush, which leaves them vulnerable at home, and thats all he needs for a second, probably more fierceful attack than 9/11.
Why did the DC Snipers take out 13 people two years ago? Any reasons Graham? To kill people. I don't know what Bin Laden is really thinking, but one of his objectives is to kill people, and the other one is to free the muslim world of U.S. Occupation. But considering he supposedly "hated" Saddam, I don't think he would really give a rat's ass about Iraq. And if he did, he is just causing more trouble for the country and making the U.S. troops stay longer and longer. Reason why? Because he wants to kill Americans. I don't understand how you can't see this. It's as clear as day. More trouble he causes in the Middle East, the better chance he has to kill American troops. This task is now easier because they are already in the hell hole they call the middle east, and Osama can send his pathetic, worthless, henchman out in cars instead of planes. I sense this sort of sympathy towards his causes now, and its making me sick.
Andy nobody sympathises with Osama. If anything, the entire world sympathised with America this whole time, until Bush took steps, only he can account for, and in the process managed to turn world favour away from the US. For that alone, i think Osama Bin Laden is a genius, whose proven over and over hes got the measure of George W. Bush.
America is wrong for what it did in Iraq. I dont want to get in to the intricacies of the gulf war, but the way Bush has retaliated since 9\11, is only making things easier for Osama to accomplish his motives, whatever they may be.
America is wrong for what it did in Iraq. I dont want to get in to the intricacies of the gulf war, but the way Bush has retaliated since 9\11, is only making things easier for Osama to accomplish his motives, whatever they may be.
You can't use the DC killer to describe BL. Totally irrelavent.
Andy, the sooner you and millions of others understand his logic and twisted way to acheive his goals, the better we'll be fighting him. I'll say this one more time. BL wants to "liberate" the Muslim world from US occupation and his means for doing so is by causing unrest to our national security just as he thinks that we caused unrest to the Muslim world's security. His means for destablizing our security is by attacking the united states. He attacked the Twin towers because they were the heart of the US.
Andy, have you even read/heard his latest tape? He says all of this...
Do you want me to start quoting him?!
Yes. He gives a rats ass about the Iraqi people... he said so himself in his tape. I doubt it's the first time he said it either. (Note to people who always asume the worst in us members: BL cares for Iraqi women and children, yes. We care for Iraqi women and childredn, yes. Does this mean we are the same? NO)
Does he want the US out of Iraq. Most likely, yes.
If he was helping the Iraqi resistance and if he was associated with Abu Musab Al-Zargawi, then I'd say that they'd rather countinue with the current war situation in Iraq then to let a US-appointed government take hold of the country. He hate the monarchies and givernments in most Arab countries.
Andy, again, we need to understand him better to fight him. Please, don't confuse our posts as sympathy when we're just making you more familiar with his mentality.
Andy, the sooner you and millions of others understand his logic and twisted way to acheive his goals, the better we'll be fighting him. I'll say this one more time. BL wants to "liberate" the Muslim world from US occupation and his means for doing so is by causing unrest to our national security just as he thinks that we caused unrest to the Muslim world's security. His means for destablizing our security is by attacking the united states. He attacked the Twin towers because they were the heart of the US.
Andy, have you even read/heard his latest tape? He says all of this...
Do you want me to start quoting him?!
Yes. He gives a rats ass about the Iraqi people... he said so himself in his tape. I doubt it's the first time he said it either. (Note to people who always asume the worst in us members: BL cares for Iraqi women and children, yes. We care for Iraqi women and childredn, yes. Does this mean we are the same? NO)
Does he want the US out of Iraq. Most likely, yes.
If he was helping the Iraqi resistance and if he was associated with Abu Musab Al-Zargawi, then I'd say that they'd rather countinue with the current war situation in Iraq then to let a US-appointed government take hold of the country. He hate the monarchies and givernments in most Arab countries.
Andy, again, we need to understand him better to fight him. Please, don't confuse our posts as sympathy when we're just making you more familiar with his mentality.
In leiu of that, let's send him a handful of Chuck E. Cheese game tokens and a few 2-for-1 pizza coupons and call it even.
As much as I disagree with what the U.S. is doing in Iraq right now, Osama is one to talk. Far from helping the people he claims to represent and wants to save, his actions are only serving to add to their insult and injury.
As much as I disagree with what the U.S. is doing in Iraq right now, Osama is one to talk. Far from helping the people he claims to represent and wants to save, his actions are only serving to add to their insult and injury.
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Why did he mention Sweden!! Now Bush will attack us to prove a point, but first he will say that we got weapons of massdestruction and that göran persson is an evil dictator
Why did he mention Sweden!! Now Bush will attack us to prove a point, but first he will say that we got weapons of massdestruction and that göran persson is an evil dictator
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