Tactics and Formations (19 Viewers)

Adrian

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Jan 31, 2003
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Kulu is best used in the final third...we unfortunately can't fit dybala morata ronaldo and kulu in the starting line up..unless we are playing absolute filth with no organisational abilities then we need to sacrifice one. We need a solid 3 in the midfield...just dont know who those 3 are right now.

IF all players are fit and in form.

Woj
Cuads MDL Demiral Sandro
Bentancur Arthur Rabiot
Dybala Morata Ronaldo

Dybala to drift in behind and/or interchange with morata.
 

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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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Kulu is best used in the final third...we unfortunately can't fit dybala morata ronaldo and kulu in the starting line up..unless we are playing absolute filth with no organisational abilities then we need to sacrifice one. We need a solid 3 in the midfield...just dont know who those 3 are right now.

IF all players are fit and in form.

Woj
Cuads MDL Demiral Sandro
Bentancur Arthur Rabiot
Dybala Morata Ronaldo

Dybala to drift in behind and/or interchange with morata.
Where is mister bonbon?
Pirlo "Bonbon is our captain and we have great faith in him" aka "Unless he caries his foot on his back, he is going to start."

Szeckny and Buffon (good)
Chiello (emergency backup)
Frabotta (emergency backup)
Demiral (good cb)
De ligt(good cb)
Bonbon(emergency backup at most)
Danilo (poor Rb, mediocre to bad CB)
Cuads(mediocre Rb, decent winger)
Sandro (has started to look past it, just a decent LB)
Benta(bench option, this was his time to shine, he failed miserably), at most
Arthur (has potential to be a good player)
Rabiot (on and off, would probably shine in a good midfield)
Ramsey(on and off player same as rabiot)
Mckennie (has potential, could become a good midfielder)
Bernardeschi (shit)
Kulu( has potential, but has stagnated for too much rotation)
Chiesa (doesn't merit his price tag, potential to be a good winger, never wc)
Portanova(serie b or c level)
Dybala (lack of motivation)
Morata and Ronaldo (good)

So we need a good Rb, a good LB, 2 good midfielders and a Good coach(who could probably elevate the play of some of our players.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
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Juve from Jan 2021

IN: Depay 5m. Reynold (loan to cagliari), Rovella (loan back to Genoa),
OUT: Bernardeschi, Khedira

Sczcesny
Buffon
Cuadrado Deligt Bonucci Sandro
Danilo Demiral Chiellini Fabrotta
Kulusevski Mckennie Arthur Depay
Chiesa Bentancur Rabiot Ramsey
Morata Ronaldo
Dybala/Depay​
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
61,276
Also tactically I would keep it as a 352, no shift in defensive transitions to a 442. Keep it simpler and more compact. Sucks for Chiesa to have to track back more in that scenario, but maybe a more orthodox system can help.
I put him on the side of Mckennie so Mckennie can support him, Kulu as a 10 but really he could be a third Cm as well.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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4-3-3 put Ronaldo in the centre. Concede 0 goals.

What I would give to be free of the 2 striker formation.

Danilo - De Ligt - Chiellini - Alex Sandro
Arthur
Cuadrado - Kulusevski - McKennie - Chiesa
Ronaldo​
 

JuveE46

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Dec 6, 2015
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Whatever the formations are, I don't think the players know exactly what Pirlo asks. And deep down they realize Pirlo doesn't know much about tactics anyway.
what I never understood for example is 352 to 442 transition BS...Max came in kept things how conte had for a while and transitioned slowly..Pirlo from the start with zero prep time for the season + with more matches in less time tries to do too much, won't work anywhere, not at this level. Need to go back to basics closed that defence up play counter got THE players for it..Whatever it is he will figure it out he def has the brain.
 

Salvo

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Dec 17, 2007
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what I never understood for example is 352 to 442 transition BS...Max came in kept things how conte had for a while and transitioned slowly..Pirlo from the start with zero prep time for the season + with more matches in less time tries to do too much, won't work anywhere, not at this level. Need to go back to basics closed that defence up play counter got THE players for it..Whatever it is he will figure it out he def has the brain.
3 5 2 transition to a 4 4 2 is quite simple really

Our biggest issue is the 2 man midfield not working currently
 

cimenk

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Jul 23, 2008
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Don’t know if this has been posted elsewhere already but it makes for interesting viewing, especially in terms of the stats.

Do we line up in 4-2-3-1? or 4-4-2 ?

I surprised with the statistic result of XG and Def Action metrics.

If Pirlo's would learn from Pep and Flick, it would be a great idea. Pep's change this season is refreshing.
He played with 4-3-3 but with some different function for his players. Pep also line up as 3-2-3-2 in Attacking Phase and as 4-3-3 in defensive phase

4-3-3
Ederson
Walker/Cancelo - Dias - Stones - Cancelo/Zinchenko
B. Silva/KDB - Rodri - Gundogan
Mahrez - Jesus - Sterling/Foden
In Attacking Phase it would be like this
Ederson
Walker/Zinchenko - Dias - Stones
Cancelo/Zinchenko - Rodri
B. Silva /KDB - Gundogan - Sterling
Mahrez-Jesus​

Walker will be as 3rd CB, but Zinchenko/Cancelo move as DM in attacking phase rather than overlap as fullback. But they will overload on the wing with either Silva and Mahrez on the right or Foden/KDB and Sterling on the left. Jesus/Foden and Gundogan will attack the center and this is the reason Gundogan scored quite much.

I think we have some players to play this tactics :
Tek
Danilo - De Ligt - Chiellini/Bon - Sandro
Cuadrado - Rabiot/Bentancur/Arthur - McKennie/Ramsey
Ronaldo - Morata - Chiesa​

In attacking phase will be :
Tek
De Ligt - Bon - Sandro
Danilo - Rabiot/Bentancur
Cuadrado - McKennie - Chiesa
Ronaldo - Morata​
 
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JCK

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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    Galactico Donnarumma
    Galctico Danilo Galactico Boncuci Galactico De Ligt
    Galactico Cuadrado Galactico Bentancur Galactico Rabiot Galactico McKennie Galactico Chiesa
    Galactico Ronaldo Galactico Icardi

    Coach Pirlo​

    This team is destined for a trebble
     

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