Tactics and Formations (49 Viewers)

pitbull

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I'm sure Kean and Pjaca will be gone before the window closes, so without them our first team:

gk: woj, perin, pinsoglio
d: bonucci, benatia, barzagli, rugani, chiellini, de sciglio, sandro, cancelo, (spinazzola)
m: can, pjanič, matuidi, khedira, marchisio, sturaro, bentancur
a: dybala, mario, ronaldo, costa, berna, cuads

this is still too heavy, without spinazzola we have 24 guys, so one CM should be going away, hopefully it's Sturaro. given how no one else is seriously rumored to move apart from homegrown Marchisio, I think it's also safe to assume that no new signings will be made
 

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s4tch

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best starting lineup, before we get to know how cr7 gels with the rest of the squad?

my guess is that allegri will be reluctant to bench mandzukic, and he also cannot bench dybala, costa and cr7, so i'd put my money on a 4-2-3-1 with pjanic as a rock solid starter, and allegri rotating can, khedira and matuidi. then we'll start to have some injuries, a dip in form, so we might change formation as early as end of august.

:allegri:
 
Cronios

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The 4 man defense is out of the question, as our wingbacks lack defensive skills, so does our new captain (Bonucci)
Chiellini would be the single defender who can defend in that defense, not even RM doesn't play so offensive
 
Monty

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s4tch said:
best starting lineup, before we get to know how cr7 gels with the rest of the squad?

my guess is that allegri will be reluctant to bench mandzukic, and he also cannot bench dybala, costa and cr7, so i'd put my money on a 4-2-3-1 with pjanic as a rock solid starter, and allegri rotating can, khedira and matuidi. then we'll start to have some injuries, a dip in form, so we might change formation as early as end of august.

:allegri:
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Naa I think Allegri is going to stick to the 433/442, even when he didnt have the personnel he still stuck to this formation in pre-season

Mandu and Matuidi are just back from the holidays

The other WC players have only been training for a week

I reckon fitness and march sharpness will dictate the first few lineups
 
edgardavids2608

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I think this lineup will be what we use

------------------------Ronaldo--------------------Costa--
--------------Dybala--------------------------------

----------Matuidi----------------------Can----------

------------------------Pjanic-------------------------
Sandro---------------------------------------------Cancelo
----------------Chiellini---------Bon/Ben-----------------


This gives us tactical flexibility. We can do a number of things. We can move Costa and dybala positions to create more width on either side.
Also if we need a creative player more centrally we can play similar to France and mave Matuidi occupy more of the left while either Ronaldo or Dybala drop in to recieve the ball negating our lack of an offensive CM. We can take turns pushing Sandro and Cancelo high and they can both be covered. Plus with Costa on the right we can drop into a 4-4-2 defensive shape that Max likes.
 
MrMonkey

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edgardavids2608 said:
I think this lineup will be what we use

------------------------Ronaldo--------------------Costa--
--------------Dybala--------------------------------

----------Matuidi----------------------Can----------

------------------------Pjanic-------------------------
Sandro---------------------------------------------Cancelo
----------------Chiellini---------Bon/Ben-----------------
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Like these 11 to be 1st team for now. Maybe I over emphasize offense, but would like if possible Berna or Cuads being able to handle a MF spot at times instead of Can and Matuidi. And who knows if Bentancur ends ups playing better than Can? If all goes well, really see no reason Khedira would be needed unless injuries arise.
 
vodka

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MrMonkey said:
Like these 11 to be 1st team for now. Maybe I over emphasize offense, but would like if possible Berna or Cuads being able to handle a MF spot at times instead of Can and Matuidi. And who knows if Bentancur ends ups playing better than Can? If all goes well, really see no reason Khedira would be needed unless injuries arise.
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but to release khedira so we could force wingers to play out of position and gamble on them doing better there? Does not sound like a great plan, rather extremely inefficient.
 
Catenaccio

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I would not in the least be surprised if we run with a 352 this year given we have 5 central defenders and 4 players who would make decent wing backs:

-----------------------------Szczesny--------------------------

-----------------Benatia----Bonucci----Chiellini--------------

Cancelo/Cuad----Can----Pjanic----Matuidi----Sandro/Costa

-------------Dybala/Mandzukic-----Ronaldo------------------

With this squad you could almost play any formation though.

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Juvellino

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442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Berna-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-DC
Dybala-Ronaldo

433
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo-DC

442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
DC-Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo

343
Szczesny/Perin
Rugani-Bonucci-Chiellini
Cancelo-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-AS
Dybala-Ronaldo-DC

442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Cuadrados-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-DC
Dybala-Ronaldo
 
dolph

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Juvellino said:
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Berna-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-Douglas Costa
Dybala-Ronaldo

Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo-Douglas Costa

Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Douglas Costa-Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo

Szczesny/Perin
Rugani-Bonucci-Chiellini
Cancelo-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-Alex Sandro
Dybala-Ronaldo-Douglas Costa
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They all look great to be honest, however I doubt that Allegri will play a back four with two fullbacks who are better in offense. Afterall Allegri likes to play with one attacking fullback and one defensive. Great to have a lot of alternatives for a coach like Allegri, who likes to switch between formations.

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Juvellino said:
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Berna-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-Douglas Costa
Dybala-Ronaldo

Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo-Douglas Costa

Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Alex Sandro
Douglas Costa-Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo

Szczesny/Perin
Rugani-Bonucci-Chiellini
Cancelo-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-Alex Sandro
Dybala-Ronaldo-Douglas Costa
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They all look great to be honest, however I doubt that Allegri will play a back four with two fullbacks who are better in offense. Afterall Allegri likes to play with one attacking fullback and one defensive. Great to have a lot of alternatives for a coach like Allegri, who likes to switch between formations.
 
Juvellino

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dolph said:
They all look great to be honest, however I doubt that Allegri will play a back four with two fullbacks who are better in offense. Afterall Allegri likes to play with one attacking fullback and one defensive. Great to have a lot of alternatives for a coach like Allegri, who likes to switch between formations.
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You might be right but Allegri would pair Dani Alves with Alex Sandro so I guess we will see. I can't wait to see how the squad looks.
 
Monty

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Juvellino said:
442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Berna-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-DC
Dybala-Ronaldo

433
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo-DC

442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
DC-Can-Pjanic-Matuidi
Dybala-Ronaldo

343
Szczesny/Perin
Rugani-Bonucci-Chiellini
Cancelo-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-AS
Dybala-Ronaldo-DC

442
Szczesny/Perin
Cancelo-Bonucci-Chiellini-AS
Cuadrados-Pjanic-Can/Matuidi-DC
Dybala-Ronaldo
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you're still missing Khedira
 
MikeM

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Cerval said:
Yes, with a front four of Costa, Dybala, Ronaldo and Bernardeschi
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Looks like Cuadrado can cover RB this year and MDS can cover LB. No choice really, I don't see 4 fullbacks in the team.

I wonder if Max has evil thoughts to play Cuadrado as the RB starter and Cancelo as a LM/RM backup at the beginning of the season.
 
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