Tactics and Formations (21 Viewers)

[Adrian]

Buffon
Howedes Rugani Chiellini Sandro
Matuidi Marchisio Pjanic
Bernardeschi Higuain Dybala

Defense is very much a no brainer. With Sandro being offensive allowing Dybala to cut in and cause havoc we will need solidarity at right back and Howedes fits that role. Also helps the central duo and takes some pressure off.

Midfield is a good mix...technically balanced with a grinta type, technical type in marchisio and pjanic passing the ball and doing what he does best.

Bernadeschi offers the width but is capable of cutting in and creating and linking well with dybala. Again dybala is allowed to cut in and run a muck as ADP used to from that side. Sandro is a key for us and will continously offer width in the attack and cross well.

Higuain for me needs more service. Dybala being closer to him and the goal is a must. Bernardeschi will offer more service and of course pjanic having marchisio and matuidi in midfield will allow him to be more adventurous from midfield.

We have good cover on bench as well. MDS can cover both FB roles. Plenty of CB cover. Midfield options with khedira and bentancur offer plenty of options. Costa mandzukic pjaca offer plenty of options as well in that final third also.

Makes sense to me anyway.

 

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[Monty]

I know
Since the only consensus on Tuz is that all our defenders suck, how about we get rid of the defense
We can then also play lots of midfielders so we dont get overrun in midfield again, and we can play lots of attackers as every one wants attacking football

4-4-2

Buffon
Bentancur Marchisio Pjanic Matuidi
Cuadrado Dybala Berna Costa
Higuain Mandzukic

subs - khedira, pjaca, sturaro

Hoo-ha

 

[Valerio.]

I know
Since the only consensus on Tuz is that all our defenders suck, how about we get rid of the defense
We can then also play lots of midfielders so we dont get overrun in midfield again, and we can play lots of attackers as every one wants attacking football

4-4-2

Buffon
Bentancur Marchisio Pjanic Matuidi
Cuadrado Dybala Berna Costa
Higuain Mandzukic

subs - khedira, pjaca, sturaro

Hoo-ha

Buffon
Cuadrado-Marchisio-Matuidi-Costa
Dybala-Pjanic-Bernardeschi
Pjaca-Mandzukic-Pjaca

 

[Lapa]

Buffon
Howedes Rugani Chiellini Sandro
Matuidi Marchisio Pjanic
Bernardeschi Higuain Dybala

Defense is very much a no brainer. With Sandro being offensive allowing Dybala to cut in and cause havoc we will need solidarity at right back and Howedes fits that role. Also helps the central duo and takes some pressure off.

Midfield is a good mix...technically balanced with a grinta type, technical type in marchisio and pjanic passing the ball and doing what he does best.

Bernadeschi offers the width but is capable of cutting in and creating and linking well with dybala. Again dybala is allowed to cut in and run a muck as ADP used to from that side. Sandro is a key for us and will continously offer width in the attack and cross well.

Higuain for me needs more service. Dybala being closer to him and the goal is a must. Bernardeschi will offer more service and of course pjanic having marchisio and matuidi in midfield will allow him to be more adventurous from midfield.

We have good cover on bench as well. MDS can cover both FB roles. Plenty of CB cover. Midfield options with khedira and bentancur offer plenty of options. Costa mandzukic pjaca offer plenty of options as well in that final third also.

Makes sense to me anyway.

This please!

 

[Bianconero81]

3-4-1-2: Buffon in goal. Rugani Chiellini Barzagli in a back 3. Cuadrado on the right and Sandro on the left of a 4 man midfield, with Marchisio and Matuidi patrolling the center. Pjanic as an AM behind Dybala and Higuain/Mandzukic.

 

[The Quazis]

Buffon
Howedes Rugani Chiellini Sandro
Matuidi Marchisio Pjanic
Bernardeschi Higuain Dybala

Defense is very much a no brainer. With Sandro being offensive allowing Dybala to cut in and cause havoc we will need solidarity at right back and Howedes fits that role. Also helps the central duo and takes some pressure off.

Midfield is a good mix...technically balanced with a grinta type, technical type in marchisio and pjanic passing the ball and doing what he does best.

Bernadeschi offers the width but is capable of cutting in and creating and linking well with dybala. Again dybala is allowed to cut in and run a muck as ADP used to from that side. Sandro is a key for us and will continously offer width in the attack and cross well.

Higuain for me needs more service. Dybala being closer to him and the goal is a must. Bernardeschi will offer more service and of course pjanic having marchisio and matuidi in midfield will allow him to be more adventurous from midfield.

We have good cover on bench as well. MDS can cover both FB roles. Plenty of CB cover. Midfield options with khedira and bentancur offer plenty of options. Costa mandzukic pjaca offer plenty of options as well in that final third also.

Makes sense to me anyway.

Dybala won't cut it DP style because he doesn't have right leg.

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[Adrian]

Dybala won't cut it DP style because he doesn't have right leg.

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka

Disagree...may not be right footed but the notion is he can link with Sandro out wide, drift centrally and link up with up with the likes of pjanic and costa or bernardeschi. It offers him a role closer to goal where he is more dangerous. He wont have to drift deep in midfield to get the ball. He will have more freedom and space to find the ball and run at defenders instead of being deep, getting the ball and constantly having his back towards goal.

 

[Tak!]

Not a big fan of 3/5 defenders. Used to not care, and I still do not care as long as it brings us trophies. But I am growing more uncomfortable with seeing three defenders trying to be creative with each passing game. I am not talking about Juve specifically, this goes for all teams.

In theory, I think 3-4-3, 3-5-2 or whatever, works well. You get the width, you get a lot of players in the central parts of the pitch, and you get a more solid base against counter-attacks.

In practice, you still get the width, but you also get all players on the pitch centrally (including opponents). It's just swamped. Nevertheless, I still believe the biggest problem, as I said above, is the issue with having three CDs trying to find open slots and run down the middle. Like Italy vs Sweden when Chiellini became "the main threat" for running with the ball forward and trying to do something creative or cross the ball. Of course, nothing ever came of it. Yesterday watching Benatia dribble, Barzagli making runs into the box as well as Höwedes. It was just... appalling. Of course in that particular game it was countless of other issues that caused these events to happen. However, we still see that happen in all teams playing with 3 CD. Those that actually get a "creative" CB that actually can link defense with midfield or attackers (players such as Bonucci and Luiz) still get brain farting CDs that are somewhat good passers but poor defenders. You just outnumber possible attackers in a counter-attack instead of being left 2vs2/2vs1/2vs3 in a four-back backline.

Therefore, despite our defenders, I would prefer us playing with a backline of four but ask our right back to "keep a low profile" and only venture forward when the risk is low and mainly to stretch the opponents defense. I vote for Chiellini and Rugani as our main CDs, let Rugani grow. Barzagli is past it and Benatia is just... well I am not so fond of him.

 

[Nedved96]

Total football

 

[Cerval]

Football genius. ^

 

[X Æ A-12]

Dybala as a CM

 

[Nedved96]

A more serious line-up

I genuinely think that we have one of the deepest squads in Europe. Apart from Real and maybe Bayern, I don't think any other team has as much depth as we do.

 

[Bianconero81]

Dybala is not a fucking winger ffs! He has to play close to goal.

 

[Tak!]

I believe Dybala as a winger, a la Messi, makes sense. As an AMC he isn't exactly close to the goal anyway and always need to track back/go deep to receive the ball. So far he hasn't exactly excelled when receiving the ball in the middle final third. Usually steps into a wall immediately and gets easily disposed of the ball. From a winger position he will still roam freely but is not as easy to mark and keep track of. Yes, as an AMC he has been roaming all over the pitch as well, but I would prefer him to start of as a winger and have us play with a three-man-midfield to better shield or defense. Against smaller teams we could easily put on Berna as a "CM" and let him move more freely and focus on attacking (hence he'd kind of be an AMC). If we moved to this formation we could finally let Mandzukic be a backup to Pipita, as a LW this year it just hasn't worked out. I think the competitors have also learned how to play against our current formation.

If Marchisio can't play, let Pjanic take that role and move Bentancur into Pjanic's slot. But let form assess if one of them perhaps should be out and replaced by e.g. Khedira. If that'd be the case let Pjanic/Bentancur play deep and Khedira take the more offensive position because that is where his qualities are and not in defense.

 

[Monty]

I believe Dybala as a winger, a la Messi, makes sense. As an AMC he isn't exactly close to the goal anyway and always need to track back/go deep to receive the ball. So far he hasn't exactly excelled when receiving the ball in the middle final third. Usually steps into a wall immediately and gets easily disposed of the ball. From a winger position he will still roam freely but is not as easy to mark and keep track of. Yes, as an AMC he has been roaming all over the pitch as well, but I would prefer him to start of as a winger and have us play with a three-man-midfield to better shield or defense. Against smaller teams we could easily put on Berna as a "CM" and let him move more freely and focus on attacking (hence he'd kind of be an AMC). If we moved to this formation we could finally let Mandzukic be a backup to Pipita, as a LW this year it just hasn't worked out. I think the competitors have also learned how to play against our current formation.

If Marchisio can't play, let Pjanic take that role and move Bentancur into Pjanic's slot. But let form assess if one of them perhaps should be out and replaced by e.g. Khedira. If that'd be the case let Pjanic/Bentancur play deep and Khedira take the more offensive position because that is where his qualities are and not in defense.

Dybala causing all sorts of tactical headaches.

Sell.

 

[Nedved96]

Dybala is not a $#@!ing winger ffs! He has to play close to goal.

In that formation Dybala is not a winger, he’s an inside right forward. Messi plays the same position. Costa is the traditional winger.

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Dybala causing all sorts of tactical headaches.

Sell.

:facepalm2:

Yeah, let’s sell our best and most influential player because we can’t fit him in a rigid formation like football manager.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Dybala causing all sorts of tactical headaches.

Sell.

^ The first dumbass already took that post seriously

 

[zizinho]

In that formation Dybala is not a winger, he’s an inside right forward. Messi plays the same position. Costa is the traditional winger.

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:facepalm2:

Yeah, let’s sell our best and most influential player because we can’t fit him in a rigid formation like football manager.

Spoiler

DYBALA

Spoiler

IS

Spoiler

NOT

Spoiler

MESSI

 

[Monty]

^ The first dumbass already took that post seriously

 

[Hydde]

Play him as an inside forward disguised as a winger and give him freedom to roam when he thinks is needed. Thats it.

No more amc anymore. He doesnt cut it.