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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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Just out of curiosity why are you torn between Mandzukic and Morata?
Because I absolutely love the heading ability of Mandzukic. The guy is incredibly dangerous in the box. Plus we have a new LB that can deliver the goods plus Cuadrado & Dybala? pffffft

But Morata is that magical striker I love to watch too. :sad:
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Because I absolutely love the heading ability of Mandzukic. The guy is incredibly dangerous in the box. Plus we have a new LB that can deliver the goods plus Cuadrado & Dybala? pffffft

But Morata is that magical striker I love to watch too. :sad:
I dont want to say it, but if morata isnt our starting cf this year, i could see him leaving
 
Jul 1, 2010
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:tup:

I was thinking the same thing. Khedira/Asamoah for Sturaro even would be great, that way we have some leadership & experience with Marchisio in there. Pogba losses his head sometimes. Man that is one notoriously tricky attack to try and defend against.

My dream 11 if no one else arrives this mercato is this:

Buffon
Licht-Bonucci-Chiellini-Sandro
Asamoah-Marchisio-Pogba
Dybala-Morata*-Cuadrado​

*To be honest, I'm really torn between (the legs) who I want to start between Morata & Mandzukic.
Kwadwo has been out for so long that I even forgot about him. Yes, Sturaro, Asamoah or Khedira there. Asamoah was a beast box-to-box at Udinese, I hope he can find some kind of consistency in that position this year.
 
Jul 1, 2010
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All these futile attempts on 4-3-3

While we all know its 3-5-2 with cuadrado and sandro if we dont get an AM :)
Until Cuadrado gets raped defensively as we switch to a 4-3-3.

You know that he was poor as a wingback for Fiorentina? He was a beast in a 4-3-3 or as a SS. He's a winger, not a wingback.

Dybala can play in a free role on the left while Cuadrado plays on the right.
 
Jul 20, 2012
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Until Cuadrado gets $#@!d defensively as we switch to a 4-3-3.

You know that he was poor as a wingback for Fiorentina? He was a beast in a 4-3-3 or as a SS. He's a winger, not a wingback.

Dybala can play in a free role on the left while Cuadrado plays on the right.
He will continuously insist. I feel like he hasn't seen him play

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Until Cuadrado gets $#@!d defensively as we switch to a 4-3-3.

You know that he was poor as a wingback for Fiorentina? He was a beast in a 4-3-3 or as a SS. He's a winger, not a wingback.

Dybala can play in a free role on the left while Cuadrado plays on the right.
He will continuously insist. I feel like he hasn't seen him play
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Do you know what a free role is?

Seriously Zach you sound like a broken record with your 3-5-2.
:agree:

4-3-3 with Cuadrado-Morata/Mandzukic-Dybala would be beastly. Dybala would have freedom to drift in and out of the centre. We have the fullbacks to cover. It also gives Coman the chance to be first off the bench as a sub on the wing and get significant playing time in a formation that would actually work for him to be an impact sub for us. Morata could also provide coverage on the wing when needed.

If we play 3-5-2 all year, I'm going to cry. Disgusting.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Do you know what a free role is?

Seriously Zach you sound like a broken record with your 3-5-2.
I'm not categorically against 4-3-3. But what a surprising amount of peasant and posters do, is using it as a pathetic excuse to field more fancy.
Last two seasons, everyone was trying to push tevez as a winger. He doesnt have the skillset for it, it would remove his huge goaltreath, OR, he would clog the center, wich you cant have happening in a 4-3-3.
Now its Dybala, and its the same story again. Dybala is danger if he's looking for spaces between defenders and lines, and makes actions there. Pushing him down the wing, would negate that. You cant play Dybala, as a winger. He doesnt have, the characteristics.

Cuadrado works very good in a 4-3-3. But we dont have an opposing winger. And we would bench Dybala and Morata or mandzukic. Coman could play opposing winger, but is far inferior to Dybala at this point.

Imagine we'd have Draxler. THAT would be interesting. We could play 4312 and bench Cuadrado. We could play 433 and bench Dybala. We could play some type of 4231/4411 with Pogba pushing up and dybala playing slightly deeper, so we only bench 1 of morata and mandzukic. That could work, if Draxler tracks back.


So lets see for a second. last season, we had the gaping hole called Pirlo. yet we managed to get around that. This season that hole got plumbed cause we put Marchisio in it. When everyone is fit, we'd have a mid 3 of Marchisio, Pogba and Khedira or Asamoah. Extremely solid. MUCH more solid then playing gaping hole called pirlo.

So what if we play Cuadrado as a right wing back. Are you seriously going to claim that gaping hole called pirlo, was a lesser defensive liability then Cuadrado could be ?


Arent you one of those thats like "fullbacks and wingbacks is least important position". Aka a gap in the center is much worse then some kind of gap down the side ?


What we would do, is play 3-5-2, and have the most right central midfielder help Cuadrado. Last season when Licht was struggeling, Vidal was doing a whole lot of that, while also covering the gap called pirlo.

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:agree:

4-3-3 with Cuadrado-Morata/Mandzukic-Dybala would be beastly. Dybala would have freedom to drift in and out of the centre. We have the fullbacks to cover. It also gives Coman the chance to be first off the bench as a sub on the wing and get significant playing time in a formation that would actually work for him to be an impact sub for us. Morata could also provide coverage on the wing when needed.

If we play 3-5-2 all year, I'm going to cry. Disgusting.
Yeah, basically that is one winger doing his thing, and the other clogging the center, or going to the side where he isnt effective :tup:


No, if that works, Conte would have done it with Tevez, and Allegri would have done it with Tevez. It doesnt work, so we dont do that crap.
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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So if we disagree with you we are peasants.

How convenient.
No. Its the same each season. People come with ridiculous idea's to push a 4-3-3 agenda. At least this year it involves ONE actual winger. Usually its 3 central forwards, that should suddenly play like wingers.
This shit always ends the same. Either your central forward gets pushed wide and becomes alot less effective, or they naturally draw to the center, and clogg it for themselves and midfield runners.


If we would have gotten Draxler instead of Dybala, i wouldnt mind the "cuadrado-moradzukic-draxler" frontline. Cause that actually would work excellent.
 

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