True but just by the way Tevez and Llorente play Conte is obviously asking of them to do so much build up play, you dont get to see them express their own style
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Dunno.
Depends on what system Juve are going to play and whether they are keeping Pirlo.
If you keep the system and keep Pirlo, you can continue as things are and just tinker.
If you ditch Pirlo and change system, you probably need to sell a big player in order to be able to commit to the change of system fully.
Depends on what system Juve are going to play and whether they are keeping Pirlo.
If you keep the system and keep Pirlo, you can continue as things are and just tinker.
If you ditch Pirlo and change system, you probably need to sell a big player in order to be able to commit to the change of system fully.
Realistically if we wanted to stick to the 3-5-2 and implement it in Europe with an actual hope of success then we would have to make big changes.
First of all, Licht is a fantastic RB and Asamoah looks to be a dynamic, energetic CM. But NEITHER of these two players have the offensive qualities neccesary to play LWB and RWB in Europe. People will argue 'But they're defensively solid' blah blah blah etc etc.
Well we've all seen infront of our own eyes how much that's benefited us in the CL
Besides, it doesn't matter how 'defensively great' they are. Because when we need a goal and our wing backs press high up the pitch, we eventually get countered and I don't care how good you are at making a challenge, it's going to be quite difficult dispossessing the player who's 40 yards infront of you. It makes no difference basically.
So, two new attacking wing-backs. Who also put in a decent shift. Cuadrado and Criscito perhaps
Second of all, we can stick to having a Regista although i'm not a fan of this because replacing Pirlo would be like selling Vidal and hoping to find an equal replacement for him. There are none, so no matter what if we stick to a Regista we'll eventually take a dive in quality.
The better option would be to buy an attacking midfielder. That way we can still have a real creative force in the team without trying to replace the irreplacable. Makes sense to me. Of course the formation would resemble more of a 3-4-1-2 but that's minor details really
Last of all, we really do need a goal scoring machine if we're serious about mounting a challenge in Europe. Llorente or Tevez (Probably Llorente) would have to take a seat. I'm more than ok with that. Tevez might not be a real threat in Europe but he will cover a lot of ground and help take pressure off of whoever he was partnered with.
So basically, if we want to stick to 3-5-2 and improve significantly it won't be any cheaper (One could argue it would be even more expensive) than changing our system. Or... we buy another few depth players and repeat this season over & over again.
First of all, Licht is a fantastic RB and Asamoah looks to be a dynamic, energetic CM. But NEITHER of these two players have the offensive qualities neccesary to play LWB and RWB in Europe. People will argue 'But they're defensively solid' blah blah blah etc etc.
Well we've all seen infront of our own eyes how much that's benefited us in the CL
Besides, it doesn't matter how 'defensively great' they are. Because when we need a goal and our wing backs press high up the pitch, we eventually get countered and I don't care how good you are at making a challenge, it's going to be quite difficult dispossessing the player who's 40 yards infront of you. It makes no difference basically.
So, two new attacking wing-backs. Who also put in a decent shift. Cuadrado and Criscito perhaps
Second of all, we can stick to having a Regista although i'm not a fan of this because replacing Pirlo would be like selling Vidal and hoping to find an equal replacement for him. There are none, so no matter what if we stick to a Regista we'll eventually take a dive in quality.
The better option would be to buy an attacking midfielder. That way we can still have a real creative force in the team without trying to replace the irreplacable. Makes sense to me. Of course the formation would resemble more of a 3-4-1-2 but that's minor details really
Last of all, we really do need a goal scoring machine if we're serious about mounting a challenge in Europe. Llorente or Tevez (Probably Llorente) would have to take a seat. I'm more than ok with that. Tevez might not be a real threat in Europe but he will cover a lot of ground and help take pressure off of whoever he was partnered with.
So basically, if we want to stick to 3-5-2 and improve significantly it won't be any cheaper (One could argue it would be even more expensive) than changing our system. Or... we buy another few depth players and repeat this season over & over again.
About this:
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and this is why im so worried about our early crash in the CL. We simply have no money for this needed changes.
Some interesting stuff in this looking at it from a Juve perspective:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/18/question-holding-midfielders-changing-role
The stuff about central midfielders returning to being more rounded players (rather than just destroyers or just ball players) would point to Juve being well placed, with Vidal and Pogba, to leap on the 4-2-3-1 bandwagon with the current trend.
Then there is also the observation at the end (which I believe has been brought up here before) of there not being much difference, particularly when in possession, between teams having a defensive midfielder who drops between the two central defenders, and what Juve have, with Bonucci as a permanent fixture between the other defenders.
Of course, just because there is a trend doesn't mean that one ought to try and play the same way as everyone else.
From what I've seen of Man City, who are mentioned a lot in the article, playing Toure and Fernandinho as two fairly energetic central midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 (4-4-2) the game is left so insanely open and there is such a lack of control that you would be running huge risks to play like that every week.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/18/question-holding-midfielders-changing-role
The stuff about central midfielders returning to being more rounded players (rather than just destroyers or just ball players) would point to Juve being well placed, with Vidal and Pogba, to leap on the 4-2-3-1 bandwagon with the current trend.
Then there is also the observation at the end (which I believe has been brought up here before) of there not being much difference, particularly when in possession, between teams having a defensive midfielder who drops between the two central defenders, and what Juve have, with Bonucci as a permanent fixture between the other defenders.
Of course, just because there is a trend doesn't mean that one ought to try and play the same way as everyone else.
From what I've seen of Man City, who are mentioned a lot in the article, playing Toure and Fernandinho as two fairly energetic central midfielders in a 4-2-3-1 (4-4-2) the game is left so insanely open and there is such a lack of control that you would be running huge risks to play like that every week.