Syrian civil war (38 Viewers)

[Fred]

Dysfunctional society you mean. Also, if you know you can be fvcked because of social media postings how about not using social media then?

If he didn't use social media then there would have been another outlet, it doesn't make much of a difference. I still don't see how that picture makes him a part of Al Nusra front.

Yes, we also have dysfunctional societies in most of the Arab world that help create the dysfunctional political systems unfortunately.

 

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[Ocelot]

I still don't think that proves anything. You guys live in cozy, democratic countries where you never have to worry about having the wrong opinion. Where he used to be, you have the wrong opinion and you could get beheaded for it(ISIS), or tortured and jailed in an unknown place for the rest of your life(Assad). I personally know several people who had Geddaffi images in their FB back in the start of the revolution, even when I knew for a fact that they weren't really his supporters, but at the time allegiances where scrutinized, and you could be fvcked so easily. That is not an unusual situation at all, and unfortunately it is a byproduct of the dysfunctional political systems we have in most of the Arab world.

Not saying that the guy hasn't been part of the Al-Nusra front, but he shouldn't be proclaimed guilty due to this kind of very lacking evidence.

 

[Fred]

Not saying that the guy hasn't been part of the Al-Nusra front, but he shouldn't be proclaimed guilty due to this kind of very lacking evidence.

Exactly

 

[lgorTudor]

Not saying that the guy hasn't been part of the Al-Nusra front, but he shouldn't be proclaimed guilty due to this kind of very lacking evidence.

You're granting savages your gracious European kind of justice that you would never receive in return. Our family's close friend is Afghan who migrated to Germany when the Soviets arrived. His parents still live in Kabul. Everytime he goes to visit them he has to grow a beard for three months because 'without a beard you don't know if you ever come back home or get slaughtered on the streets'. So when it comes to alleged Al-Nusra or ISIS members I'd rather disable in dubio pro reo and catapult them right back into the desert. The kids can stay here, obviously

 

[Ocelot]

You're granting savages your gracious European kind of justice that you would never receive in return. Our family's close friend is Afghan who migrated to Germany when the Soviets arrived. His parents still live in Kabul. Everytime he goes to visit them he has to grow a beard for three months because 'without a beard you don't know if you ever come back home or get slaughtered on the streets'. So when it comes to alleged Al-Nusra or ISIS members I'd rather disable in dubio pro reo and catapult them right back into the desert. The kids can stay here, obviously

Seriously, your ideas completely destroy exactly those "western" values and liberties you proclaim to be worried about due to the refugees.

 

[lgorTudor]

Seriously, your ideas completely destroy exactly those "western" values and liberties you proclaim to be worried about due to the refugees.

better safe than sorry. Goodfella is already licking his fingers for the caliphate

 

[swag]

al-Nusra Front welcome
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/syrian-ref...rnalist-was-part-al-qaedas-nusra-front-647390

Spoiler

Hey, when you're trying to knock out Assad, anti-gov't associations are gonna get whack.

I still don't think that proves anything. You guys live in cozy, democratic countries where you never have to worry about having the wrong opinion. Where he used to be, you have the wrong opinion and you could get beheaded for it(ISIS), or tortured and jailed in an unknown place for the rest of your life(Assad). I personally know several people who had Geddaffi images in their FB back in the start of the revolution, even when I knew for a fact that they weren't really his supporters, but at the time allegiances where scrutinized, and you could be fvcked so easily. That is not an unusual situation at all, and unfortunately it is a byproduct of the dysfunctional political systems we have in most of the Arab world.

I kinda have to side with Fred here.

 

[Fred]

You're granting savages your gracious European kind of justice that you would never receive in return. Our family's close friend is Afghan who migrated to Germany when the Soviets arrived. His parents still live in Kabul. Everytime he goes to visit them he has to grow a beard for three months because 'without a beard you don't know if you ever come back home or get slaughtered on the streets'. So when it comes to alleged Al-Nusra or ISIS members I'd rather disable in dubio pro reo and catapult them right back into the desert. The kids can stay here, obviously

Savages?

So you're brushing everyone that comes from that region with the same brush now? I can understand you being against open immigration, and for having tighter controls on that, but at least do so for the right reasons, and not based on where someone is coming from, because then even I'd somewhat agree with you. But not for the blatantly racist reasons you're currently espousing. To be honest those Western values you talk about are there despite people(idiots) like you, not because of people like you.

 

[ReBeL]

Two of the cartoons of the martyr cartoonist Akram Raslan who was announced to be tortured to death inside the jails of Assad gangs in Syria yesterday after being arrested since October 2012...

 

[Fake Melo]

Savages?

So you're brushing everyone that comes from that region with the same brush now? I can understand you being against open immigration, and for having tighter controls on that, but at least do so for the right reasons, and not based on where someone is coming from, because then even I'd somewhat agree with you. But not for the blatantly racist reasons you're currently espousing. To be honest those Western values you talk about are there despite people(idiots) like you, not because of people like you.

Always nice to see Fred laying the smackdown on people from time to time

 

[lgorTudor]

Savages?

So you're brushing everyone that comes from that region with the same brush now? I can understand you being against open immigration, and for having tighter controls on that, but at least do so for the right reasons, and not based on where someone is coming from, because then even I'd somewhat agree with you. But not for the blatantly racist reasons you're currently espousing. To be honest those Western values you talk about are there despite people(idiots) like you, not because of people like you.

Look, even the British terrorists complain
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...Arabs-who-steal-his-shoes-and-cant-queue.html

btw I was referring to Al-Nusra, the terrorist organization that I guarantee you Osama Abdul Mohsen belongs to. Peaceful refugees are welcome but if the goverment doesn't have time to background check them, none should be accepted at all. Inner security comes first.

 

[ReBeL]

The first work is by the martyr cartoonist Naji Al-Ali who was killed in 1987, and the second work is by the martyr cartoonist Akram Raslan who was tortured to death by Assad gangs in 2015...

 

[swag]

Apparently the only good cartoonist is a martyr cartoonist? :confused2

 

[ReBeL]

Apparently the only good cartoonist is a martyr cartoonist? :confused2

There are some good cartoonists, but they are targeted all the time wherever they go...

 

[swag]

That part of the world really needs to stop going gay for martyrdom. It's counter-productive.

 

[ReBeL]

That part of the world really needs to stop going gay for martyrdom. It's counter-productive.

We've discussed this earlier. You remember? If it is gay for you, it is not for others.

 

[swag]

It's still counter-productive. Dead people are valued more than living ones.

 

[ReBeL]

It's still counter-productive. Dead people are valued more than living ones.

It is kind of appreciating those who died for a cause. You will never understand it because you think our causes are silly, but this is it.

 

[swag]

It's not like we don't have war heroes here. We just don't make that out to be an elevated objective of someone's life on earth.

 

[ReBeL]

It's not like we don't have war heroes here. We just don't make that out to be an elevated objective of someone's life on earth.

It is either to live in humiliation or to die trying to improve something for you or for others. That is the case. Living in prosperity and hope as if you're living a very normal life is a mere myth.