Syrian civil war (32 Viewers)

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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What does US have to gain by intervening? (not a rhetorical question) If they wanted to intervene, they'd have done a long time ago I think...
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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RAMI¹⁰;4281678 said:
Great logic. roll of a dice?! if it was your country, you wouldn't say so!
You want the Islamists to rule Syria? or the fuckers who are calling for an intervention from outside? Have you seen what happened in Iraq? Lybia?
When I said roll of a dice I only meant that whatever the outcome my be it's not a final one, those countries are going through a proccess that will take years to unfold and it's impossible to predict it's end result.

The guy killed over 100,000 pepole already not to mention the horrible "rape camps", I'm not talking about a military intervantion like in Iraq but more international pressure should be put on Assad to stop the mass murders.

And yeah, at this point I rather the Islamist rule then him (And Assad is also Islamic btw just a different faction)
 

Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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What does US have to gain by intervening? (not a rhetorical question) If they wanted to intervene, they'd have done a long time ago I think...
Zilch.

Why do you think it has taken so long for the "Western" world to intervene? Or to even just speak of intervening? Simply because there's nothing to gain by doing so.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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When I said roll of a dice I only meant that whatever the outcome my be it's not a final one, those countries are going through a proccess that will take years to unfold and it's impossible to predict it's end result.

The guy killed over 100,000 pepole already not to mention the horrible "rape camps", I'm not talking about a military intervantion like in Iraq but more international pressure should be put on Assad to stop the mass murders.

And yeah, at this point I rather the Islamist rule then him (And Assad is also Islamic btw just a different faction)
When I mentioned the Islamists, I meant the extremists (AlQaeda). and no, I rather Assad rules the country than those pigs... and this is what the majority of Syrians want.
Also, do you have an evidence of what you accuse the regime of?! or is it solely based on what crap the western media are throwing to the world?
 

Tomice

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Mar 25, 2009
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RAMI¹⁰;4281698 said:
When I mentioned the Islamists, I meant the extremists (AlQaeda). and no, I rather Assad rules the country than those pigs... and this is what the majority of Syrians want.
Also, do you have an evidence of what you accuse the regime of?! or is it solely based on what crap the western media are throwing to the world?
Oh, I've just now realised you are Syrian, So first off let me just say that I truely hope your country resolve this mess as soon as possible, one way or the other.

First of all no, I don't have any evidence. Only what I see on westren new and our local news. I've seen more then a few contradicting reports and let me say that I don't take any news source as the gospel, with that said I do "trust" our local news to some dagree on this matter as they have good, first hand sources and realy no good reason to support either side. From all the information I've seen so far I know there are no good or bad guys here as both sides have taken part in unfortunate actions, however some of the things I saw on video are harder to sallow when done by the army and goverment.

Regarding what the majority wants, I do ask this cause I honestly want to know. How can a Sunni Majority want to be ruled by an Alawite minority?
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
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I'm sure Roles in the goverment and positions in all other state institutions weren't almost exclusive to Catholics in his tenure. Not to mention he was elected :p
There you go. I think it has nothing to do with religion and more about state institutions.
 

RAMI-N

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Aug 22, 2006
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Oh, I've just now realised you are Syrian, So first off let me just say that I truely hope your country resolve this mess as soon as possible, one way or the other.

First of all no, I don't have any evidence. Only what I see on westren new and our local news. I've seen more then a few contradicting reports and let me say that I don't take any news source as the gospel, with that said I do "trust" our local news to some dagree on this matter as they have good, first hand sources and realy no good reason to support either side. From all the information I've seen so far I know there are no good or bad guys here as both sides have taken part in unfortunate actions, however some of the things I saw on video are harder to sallow when done by the army and goverment.

Regarding what the majority wants, I do ask this cause I honestly want to know. How can a Sunni Majority want to be ruled by an Alawite minority?
First of all, thanks for your wishes... Second, the problem isn't your local media, its where they get their reports from which lead us back to the western media + the Arabian gulf powerful media (Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabia) which all of them have a clear agenda. having said that, the local Syrian media isn't better, so no one knows where the truth lies!
What I am saying is based on what the locals there say about this issue.
As for the president, as you and Eddy mentioned, its a state institution, and let me tell you that a big part of Sunnis in Syria are secular and they prefer to be ruled by a modern president not a religious one!
Just for the info of all, Assad in the last elections got 64% of the votes not in the region of 90s as others try to imply...
 
Jul 2, 2006
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Zilch.

Why do you think it has taken so long for the "Western" world to intervene? Or to even just speak of intervening? Simply because there's nothing to gain by doing so.
It seems certain amount of sacrifice is needed to intervene. USA often talked about ''red lines'' such as chemichal weapons. Sounds like it's not about how many you kill but how you kill. If Assad didn't use them, he would continue his killing for another year.

RAMI¹⁰;4281780 said:
Just for the info of all, Assad in the last elections got 64% of the votes not in the region of 90s as others try to imply...
In a fair election it is %20 he will get. %15 Alawites and %5 loyalists. Muslims never liked him and after the recent events, they want him to drown in his blood. Not to mention Kurds, he did not even give them citizenship. Kaddafi wasn't half as evil as Assad, look how he ended up.
 

ZoSo

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Jul 11, 2011
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They will get rid of Russian influence and will have a base there like in Iraq.
US will not put troops on the ground there like iraq & afghanistan...

The international community appeared to be considering action that would punish Assad for deploying deadly gases, not sweeping measures aimed at ousting the Syrian leader or strengthening rebel forces.

"This is about the violation of an international norm against the use of chemical weapons and how we should respond to that," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said.
 

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