Syrian civil war (13 Viewers)

[ReBeL]

According to the London-based newspaper called Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, the guy who was accused of establishing an Islamic emirate in Tal Kalakh town does not even pray!!!

Here is the whole news in Arabic:
http://www.aawsat.com/details.asp?section=4&issueno=11859&article=622169&state=true

 

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[alvin_89er]

Look, we can stay here all day long arguing endless times the same thing, you can say whatever you want but fact is, you want this regime to stay in power because you're Durzi and you're benefiting from this government and on the same time because deep inside you you think the Sunni's will turn Syria into an extremist country.

That is your only reason. If you were Sunni you wouldn't be having the same view.

Stop using terms like "sunni" cause that's means shit, and a term used by the enemies of Islam to divide it All Muslims are one united and one, it is wrong to refer one from any sect, only Muslim BTW enough respect to the syrain Baath government and the leader of the syrain people, for being amongst few leaders and countries in that region that's hasn't sold out to the zionists and imp realists and still for the Palestinian nation. Fuck the traitors.

 

[Trequartista]

Stop using terms like "sunni" cause that's means shit, and a term used by the enemies of Islam to divide it All Muslims are one united and one, it is wrong to refer one from any sect, only Muslim BTW enough respect to the syrain Baath government and the leader of the syrain people, for being amongst few leaders and countries in that region that's hasn't sold out to the zionists and imp realists and still for the Palestinian nation. Fuck the traitors.

The government kills his own population and sponsors terrorism. It should be removed. However, I don't think that the UN(Nato mainly) will move against it for the moment. Gaddafi proves to be a tough opponent to beat.

 

[ReBeL]

Stop using terms like "sunni" cause that's means shit, and a term used by the enemies of Islam to divide it All Muslims are one united and one, it is wrong to refer one from any sect, only Muslim BTW enough respect to the syrain Baath government and the leader of the syrain people, for being amongst few leaders and countries in that region that's hasn't sold out to the zionists and imp realists and still for the Palestinian nation. Fuck the traitors.

How do you know he has not sold out to the Zionists?

 

[alvin_89er]

So, the Syrian people want to make the country an Islamic state?... that's why in each town someone pops up and announces an Islamic emirate!
Very nice...

Making an Islamic state is impossible. Because is Islam is about the individual, whether you to choose to believe or not, you can't force people to believe the same things as you do, cause they have to choose by their own will, and if not you must respect that.

 

[alvin_89er]

The government kills his own population and sponsors terrorism. It should be removed. However, I don't think that the UN(Nato mainly) will move against it for the moment. Gaddafi proves to be a tough opponent to beat.

Funny, i seem remember western governments killed over a million Iraqi's, displaced millions more, they also killed thousands of afghans, very odd, you don't mention this It's a government duty and responsibly to maintain stability within it's own borders and country, and that's what the syrian government is doing, and tbh it doesn't concern anyone else. "sponsors terrorism" elaborate?

 

[Trequartista]

Funny, i seem remember western governments killed over a million Iraqi's, displaced millions more, they also killed thousands of afghans, very odd, you don't mention this It's a government duty and responsibly to maintain stability within it's own borders and country, and that's what the syrian government is doing, and tbh it doesn't concern anyone else. "sponsors terrorism" elaborate?

They also liberated Iraq from a mass murderer whom you seem to admire as he was your avatar and installed a democracy which undoubtedly triggered this year's revolution wave. People in the Middle East want democracy now mainly because of the elections of 2005 in Iraq. Do I agree with everything that the USA did in the region? No, they did very horrible things.

Still, comparing the criminal and state sponsoring Syrian government to the USA is a nice straw man argument, but completely hopeless. The Syrian government sponsors and supports Hezbollah, you know it as well. Your sating that it is their responsibility maintaining stability in their own country? They have killed more than 800 of their own citizens in the last few months...

I would condemn the USA on several things, don't get me wrong. The CIA supports terrorism when it suits them, everybody knows that.

Seriously, we are talking about a government which has killed 800 of its citizen in the last few months to crack down protestations. The president HAS to leave, there is nothing left to say.

 

[alvin_89er]

They also liberated Iraq from a mass murderer whom you seem to admire as he was your avatar, installed a democracy which undoubtedly triggered this year's revolution wave. People in the Middle East want democracy now mainly because of the elections of 2005 in Iraq. Do I agree with everything that the USA did in the region? No, they did very horrible things.

Still, comparing the criminal and state sponsoring Syrian government to the USA is a nice straw man argument, but completely hopeless. The Syrian government sponsors and supports Hezbollah, you know it as well.

You don't know much do you? They supported him (saddam) in the first place and his assassination/coup was backed by the CIA, and during his killings, they supported him,WTF are you on? they only got rid of him cause he wanted to advance his country military, scientifically, socially, e comically, banned sectarianism, Iraq was a country of good potential in the 70's, and could even been beacon in the middle east in terms of all these, unfortunately the zionists ensured this never happened.divided the country, and installed traitors and puppets. I don't remember them blowing each other pre 2003. Their is no democracy in iraq only sectarianism, people only vote for someone who is from religion or ethnic group

And the USA sponsors an apartheid and terrorist state in Israel. Where most of the population aren't even from their, in fact their from USA and Europe And the indigenous people have been massacred since this illegal occupation in 1948. Next time at least deal in facts not some zionist ideology that was founded on myth

 

[Trequartista]

You don't know much do you? They supported him (saddam) in the first place and his assassination/coup was backed by the CIA, and when he was killing, they supported: WTF are you on? they only got rid of him cause he wanted to advance his country military, scientifically, socially, e comically, banned sectarianism, Iraq was a country of good potential in the 70's, and could even been beacon in the middle east in terms of all these, unfortunately the zionists ensured this never happened.divided the country, and installed traitors and puppets. I don't remember them blowing each other pre 2003. Their is no democracy in iraq only sectarianism, people only vote for someone who is from religion or ethnic group

And the USA sponsors an apartheid and terrorist state in Israel. Where most of the population aren't even from their, in fact their from USA and Europe. And the indigenous have been massacred since this illegal occupation in 1948. Next time at least deal in facts not some zionist ideology that was founded on myth

Did I say that the USA does only good? Nope, I precisely say that I condemn several things they do.

Next time, deal with the fact that a government which kills 800 of its population for protesting has no right to stay in power.

I am not sorry to offend your hero Saddam.

And if you did not know, I absolutely condemn Israel's action. This zionist ideology argument is bullshit.

Their is no democracy in iraq only sectarianism, people only vote for someone who is from religion or ethnic group

Much better than a dictator who murders hundreds of thousands of its citizens.

 

[alvin_89er]

Did I say that the USA does only good? Nope, I precisely say that I condemn several things they do.

Next time, deal with the fact that a government which kills 800 of its population for protesting has no right to stay in power.

I am not sorry to offend your hero Saddam.

And if you did not know, I absolutely condemn Israel's action.

He's not my hero by any means, i don't have one, cause were all humans. I haven't come on here to discuss/talk about shit like this, cause 1 person can't make a difference alone, the whole people need to do right, and the people just aren't ready for that, basically their frauds, and worse then the infidels, and God will deal with them.

It's easy to hide in a f-16 jet, or computer controlled drone and bomb from thousands of miles from the sky, and attack one's country and people when you have bigger and weapons, that doesn't take guts, or courage, that proves nothing

next time Just deal in facts, otherwise i won't respond and just ignore

 

[Trequartista]

He's not my hero by any means, i don't have one, cause were all humans. I haven't come on here to discuss/talk about shit like this, cause 1 person can't make a difference alone, the whole people need to do right, and the people just aren't ready for that, basically their frauds, and worse then the infidels, and God will deal with them.

It's easy to hide in a f-16 jet, or computer controlled drone and bomb from thousands of miles from the sky, and attack one's country and people when you have bigger and weapons, that doesn't take guts, or courage, that proves nothing

next time Just deal in facts, otherwise i won't respond and just ignore

You still have not dealt with the fact that the Syrian government killed more than 800 of its citizens for protesting in the last few months. Your use of red herrings is not very clever and won't work here.

Worse then the infidels? Seriously, you are even more pathetic than I thought.

 

[Fred]

They also liberated Iraq from a mass murderer whom you seem to admire as he was your avatar and installed a democracy which undoubtedly triggered this year's revolution wave. People in the Middle East want democracy now mainly because of the elections of 2005 in Iraq. Do I agree with everything that the USA did in the region? No, they did very horrible things.

Still, comparing the criminal and state sponsoring Syrian government to the USA is a nice straw man argument, but completely hopeless. The Syrian government sponsors and supports Hezbollah, you know it as well. Your sating that it is their responsibility maintaining stability in their own country? They have killed more than 800 of their own citizens in the last few months...

I would condemn the USA on several things, don't get me wrong. The CIA supports terrorism when it suits them, everybody knows that.

Seriously, we are talking about a government which has killed 800 of its citizen in the last few months to crack down protestations. The president HAS to leave, there is nothing left to say.

Are you sure about that?

 

[ReBeL]

Are you sure about that?

I was shocked to see somebody thinking like that.

 

[Trequartista]

There are elections and a government chosen by the people. That's a democracy and even if it is far from perfect, it's better than Saddam.

I was against USA's invasion of Iraq thought, I am just looking at the result of the invasion in a comprehensive way.

 

[ReBeL]

There are elections and a government chosen by the people. That's a democracy and even if it is far from perfect, it's better than Saddam.

I was against USA's invasion of Iraq thought, I am just looking at the result of the invasion in a comprehensive way.

Government in IRAQ has nothing to do with people. It is chosen by Americans only.

 

[Fred]

Read up on the security issues in Iraq right now. Saddam was a terrible person, he's just as bad as Gedaffi if not worse. But you'd be very naive if you're sure that Iraq is better off right now. In Saddam's time, your life would be in danger if you talk up against him, in present day Iraq you could be killed just because of what sect you are. A lot of Iraqi's do not think they are better off right now, its chaos in Iraq right now, and security is lower than it was in the Saddam era. As for the new "democratic" government, did you hear what happened to the thousands that dared go out on a protest against the government?

As for Iraq inspiring the Arab world's revolts, a big huge lol on that. Iraq is actually used by people against Nato intervention in Libya, the argument is always, if Nato intervene in Libya its going to become like Iraq, and while i don't agree with that argument, its like a given here in the Arab world that Iraq is a prime example of the negative consequences of foreign intervention.

 

[ReBeL]

As for Iraq inspiring the Arab world's revolts, a big huge lol on that.

Maybe he meant that Iraq motivated people in other countries to liberate their countries in order to go and liberate Iraq from the brutal massacres taking place by the Americans since years there.

 

[Trequartista]

According to most reports(like democracy indexes), it is at the moment a "hybrid democracy", which will hopefully become a full democracy when the USA will evacuate the country.

I am perhaps too positive about the outcome though.

I am not arguing that the USA should have invaded Iraq. My original point was that Assad must go and that the UN must enforce harsh sanctions.

 

[Fred]

I agree that Assad must go and that the UN must impose harsh sanctions. Make no mistake at all though, Iraq is so far from being a democracy, its as much a democracy as Iran is. Unless you consider a government that shoots at its citizens when they protest a democratic government then that is something else. Iraq is in a chaotic state, where security is quite poor, no offense intended by this, but i think you considering yourself positive about the state of Iraq is a bit of an understatement, more like delusional or misguided. That country is a complete mess right now.

 

[king Ale]

I agree that Assad must go and that the UN must impose harsh sanctions. Make no mistake at all though, Iraq is so far from being a democracy, its as much a democracy as Iran is. Unless you consider a government that shoots at its citizens when they protest a democratic government then that is something else. Iraq is in a chaotic state, where security is quite poor, no offense intended by this, but i think you considering yourself positive about the state of Iraq is a bit of an understatement, more like delusional or misguided. That country is a complete mess right now.

How is it?