Syrian civil war (39 Viewers)

Fred

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The orrible thing is that some people are defending the Syrian regime as that regime is the only supporter for the resistance to Zionism. Look at waht Dr. Azmi Beshara said about those:

Dr Azmi Bishara is a very smart guy, always love listening to his analysis. He's spot on again imo.
 
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ReBeL

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    If Rebel doesn't find a version with subtitles, could someone summarize what he said? That would be very appreciated.
    I'll try to translate it for you. First, I think I have to explain the event. Now, Syrian regime, which is killing its people who are calling for freedom in their country, wants to find some legacy to its existence and tries to play with the paper of "resistance to Zionism". As we all know, the only Arab country during the last years that hosted Hamas and Hezbollah leaders was Syria. So, now Bashar wants to appear as he is the only one who cared for helping the resistants as this was used as a way by him and his father to make people keep silent about their crimes.

    Anyway, regarding the video:

    The anchor starts by asking Dr. Beshara: Is helping the Syrian revolution a betrayal to Palestinian cause as Syrian regime is holding the execuse of supporting resistants?
    Dr. Beshara: It seems those who were supporting the other Arab revolutions and now are opposing the Syrian revolution, these were revealed to be not calling for the freedom of people everywhere, but they were merely supporting a revolution in another place just because of its political use to him. But this can not be true, as people everywhere have the right to be free regardless the stand of its regime on the Palestinian case. Can this be a reason to stand against the rights of the Syrian people just because of my own considerations? of course not. Is it right to take all the people hostage just because the Syrian regime says it is against Israel? We have to know that if we link the continuity of this regime with supporting the resistance against Israel, then in the long run, the Syrian people will have a negative reaction exactly in the same way that happened in Iran. Some people in Iran believed their regime's lies after the last events that the reason for their problems is supporting the resistance against Israel which had a very negative reaction for the people there as they started to hate anything related to resistance against Israel. For sure personally, I support the resistance and I call those who are supporting the resistance to stop linking them with totalitarian regimes. Briefly, nobody in the world have the right to stand against the freedon of people. You can't tell people that they have to surrender their rights just because them having their rights won't suit your own rights. We need democratic countries, and I hope Egypt will be a good example soon and Syria later. By the way, I heard that some Syrian people were disappointed with the stands of Obama and Erdogan about their revolution. Why do they care about external interferrence? It is the Syrian people themselves that made their revolution using nothing but their bravery. Foreign interferrence won't come soon. The Westerners will wait until the people achieve everything by their hands and suddenly they will come and say they support the rights of the people just like what happened in Tunisia and Egypt. IMO, there is no way that foreign interferrence will be accepted by the Syrian people who are still using peaceful ways to gain their rights.

    I hope this was a clear translation.:tup:
     
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    Thanks a lot, it was a decent summary.

    I agree with what the Dr said, the Syrian people has the right to be free, regardless of Assad's government support for the Palestinian cause.
     

    Fred

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    Thanks a lot, it was a decent summary.

    I agree with what the Dr said, the Syrian people has the right to be free, regardless of Assad's government support for the Palestinian cause.
    He also said that the overwhelming majority of the syrian people are with the Palestinian cause, so it doesn't make a difference, with or without Bashar, the Syrians are with the Palestinian cause
    Forza Bashar, and fuck the haters :)
    The 800 people who died under the hands of Bashar, fuck them too? Or are they salafi's, Islamists, conspirators and foreign agents?

    The dictator won't last long Snoop, sooner or later you're going to have to jump out of the sinking ship.
     

    Azzurri7

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    Yeah, fuck the victims, fuck the children who died, old men and women, fuck them all. :rolleyes:

    Forza criminals and forza my own benefit good and of course forza being afraid of so called :gsol: extremists :gsol:
     
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    ReBeL

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    Human rights orgnizations estimate the number of victims between the demonstrators so far with 1100.
     

    Fred

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    I just don't see how this will end. I never thought we'd see a tougher situation than Libya, but the way i see it Syria's problem is even tougher. The thing about Gedaffi is he is not as smart as Bashar. Gedaffi used brute force from the very start, he used planes and bombed civilians, he used RPG's on protests, he used 14.5mm bullets, the scenes of people cut in half because of bombs and RPG's was too much for some army officials, which is what made abdel fatah younis and some other high ranking officials defect. Bashar on the other hand, has not used such brute force yet, and despite the huge number of deaths, it still doesn't look like the army is going to go against him.
     

    Azzurri7

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    I just don't see how this will end. I never thought we'd see a tougher situation than Libya, but the way i see it Syria's problem is even tougher. The thing about Gedaffi is he is not as smart as Bashar. Gedaffi used brute force from the very start, he used planes and bombed civilians, he used RPG's on protests, he used 14.5mm bullets, the scenes of people cut in half because of bombs and RPG's was too much for some army officials, which is what made abdel fatah younis and some other high ranking officials defect. Bashar on the other hand, has not used such brute force yet, and despite the huge number of deaths, it still doesn't look like the army is going to go against him.
    I am sure there are several brutal things this regime is using but the thing is that there's not a single channel allowed to broadcast what's going there.
     

    Fred

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    We depended on normal people using their phones to record, they're doing the same thing. Of course behind the scenes in the prisons, they must be doing terrible things. What i am saying is they are clever enough not to use bombs and RPG's in broad daylight against civilians. They are no better than the Libyan regime but they're a lot more subtle. Even when you see bashar talking and denying that anything is happening with a calm voice unlike Gedaffi's first speech where he called the Libyans rats, and shouted "man antom"?, threatened that he didn't use force yet, said that in China they trampled dissidents with tanks. Gedaffi was blunt and made it easier for his high ranking officials to defect. While Bashar is a more astute politician, he hasn't gone out and threatened to crush his people like Gedaffi did. That is why the way i see it, the Syrians have it tougher than us, their regime certainly seems so much more clever than the stupid fucks that rule us.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Aljazeera shows since the morning some scenes for people who were killed as a result of torture in Syria. One of those killed is a 13-yeal-old kid.

    Well, those pics indicate the risks people are taking in these protests.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Yesterday night, they killed three demonstrators in Dael village near Daraa in the south.
     

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